Police attitude to bad driving report

[defitzi]

I don't know about what driving on a speed limiter -I presume you mean driving WITH as speed limiter? Driving (on cruise control and a basis of "must must must must the momentum and keep on going at maximum speed is one reason people get killed!
Limiters are there for a damn good reason.
And in the near future. limiters will be adjustable-off cab. The technical side is presently being avaluated and the next step is coming-speed limitation in different places to suit the conditions. Hooray!

 

[Deleted member 967]

How many times have you been overtaking a car with a truck and the car speeds up just that little and keeps you out there for what seems miles & miles, then the car speeds up, you drop in behind only to be gaining on the car and catch right up within a mile
Unless you had seen the whole situation for many miles, non of us can know what has been happening prior to any incident
Eventually, the truck driver may say to himself " stuff them, Ill sit out here and if it takes a mile or so, so what" as he has not got the time to keep backing off as he would just get further and further back
Unless anybody has driven on a speed limiter and experienced the frustration, they have no idea what it is like
Others may think differently (and probably will)

*****, its not just trucks they do that with. If I cannot get past in a reasonable time, as Derek says I am not bound by a deadline or other limits, so I can drop back and then slot in so that I am not blocking a lane to other faster traffic.

The outside lane to slip boys scare me as I am LHD in the UK defitzi.

In the last post on bad driving. The road was clear ahead in both the lanes for quite some way as we had a good view. We would have been past both vehicles in a matter of seconds. The truck driver took no account of the vehicle approaching in the outside lane and just pulled out to overtake forcing us to brake hard. Both vehicles were doing about 60 so the truck was obviously not limited but was pushing just to get ahead of that dam motorhome ahead.

In the first instance I followed the truck from the incident and along the bypass and he was no more than quarter of a mile ahead of me at any point and we both arrived at the end of the road behind each other. So his wreckless overtaking was for nothing. No time advantage but obvious inceased costs in fuel and wear and tear on the truck.

Incidentally the truck is owned by a waste disposal subsidiary of Durham County Council so it is the rate payers that will be picking up the bills.

 

[maingate]

If you want to see frustration in action, try getting stuck in a huge procession on the A1 between Berwick and Newcastle. Most of it is single carriageway.

I crawled along for miles, only to find out that there were 2 wagons limited to 40 mph on single carriageways. They had a sign on the back stating this.

Which idiot dreamt that one up! Does anyone know what it is all about?

 

[Deleted member 967]

If you want to see frustration in action, try getting stuck in a huge procession on the A1 between Berwick and Newcastle. Most of it is single carriageway.

I crawled along for miles, only to find out that there were 2 wagons limited to 40 mph on single carriageways. They had a sign on the back stating this.

Which idiot dreamt that one up! Does anyone know what it is all about?

Been there, done that. It was also snowing at time. New Year.

Mobile Cranes are also limited to very low speeds even on motorways WHY?

 

[n8rbos]

i once replied on here about all peeps should sample riding a pushbike,motorbike,car and lorry to see differences in all .then maybe all would understand what all types of drivers have to contend with.

theres always some idiot on the road, and this particular driver i would have followed and dragged him out of his cab, but you could have reported him to his superiors at the yard!.

as for 'tailgating' take no notice of them, they are not going to ram you are they!and you only go faster if you allow them to intimidate you, drop ya speed slowly but surely so they get the pik, don't slam brakes on cuz they might end up in ya arse end, putting your lights on for a mo works like braking.

as for limiters, the drivers dint choose them, some pen pusher in whitehall or brussels prob. did,

 

[derekfaeberwick]

All HGV or should I say LGV are limited by law to 40 mph on single carriageways and if they all obeyed the law, how frustrating would that be to car drivers

I have often thought that if we did stick to the speed limits strictly then we'd need a hell of a lot more trucks.

How happy do we think Messrs Tesco Asda and Sainsbury be about that? They'd be queing up at No.10 to get these archaic speed limits raised.

Plod himself is quite happy with us doing up to 50, but these dammed camera bods have no discretion available to them.

 

[Deleted member 967]

All HGV or should I say LGV are limited by law to 40 mph on single carriageways and if they all obeyed the law, how frustrating would that be to car drivers

HGV Speed Limits - Driver Shortage

HGV Speed Limits
Ever wondered how fast you are legal allowed to drive?​

Here we go then!

Goods Vehicles Up To 7.5 tonne Maximum Gross Weight (LGV and Motorhomes)
•Built up areas - up to 30 miles per hour.
•Single carriageway - up to 50 miles per hour.
•Dual carriageway - up to 60 miles per hour.
•Motorway - up to 70 miles per hour*.
* 60 Miles per hour if pulling a trailer

Goods Vehicles Exceeding 7.5 tonne Maximum Gross Weight (HGV)
•Built up areas - up to 30 miles per hour.
•Single carriageway - up to 40 miles per hour.
•Dual carriageway - up to 50 miles per hour.
•Motorway - up to 60 miles per hour.

More info and comment on http://www.safespeed.org.uk/hgv40.html including signs that are appearing on Scottish Roads showing a 40MPH Speed sign and a 7.5 ton Truck on the same sign.

Apparently some car drivers are reading this and also only doing 40MPH.

 

[ajs]

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if you want to see bad driving... ride a motor bike for a month
and if you are still alive... congratulations... pat yourself on the back

regards
aj

 

[Boxerman]

Wot he said, I have had a bee in my bonnet for years that everyone should have to do at least 12months on a bike before being allowed to learn in a car.

Frank

 

[Coolasluck]

More to the point,if this country had a half decent railway network,haulage could be taken off the road de cluttering our road networks and travel by railway instead,tis another sad state that as usual we are behind France and no doubt any other country you could pull out of a hat.

 

[nowhereman]

Wot he said, I have had a bee in my bonnet for years that everyone should have to do at least 12months on a bike before being allowed to learn in a car.

Frank

Aye, iv'e allways thought that also, no car until you understand what its like to be a motorcyclist. There would be a lot less motorcyclists killed if that were the case.

 

[maingate]

I had. bikes when I was young and have always given them plenty of room since then.

The trouble is that as the behaviour of society is getting worse, bikers manners have also gone the same way. Bikes are more powerful these days and maybe that is not helping.

 

[derekfaeberwick]

More to the point,if this country had a half decent railway network,haulage could be taken off the road de cluttering our road networks and travel by railway instead,tis another sad state that as usual we are behind France and no doubt any other country you could pull out of a hat.

I forget the exact numbers,( but I'm sure that anyone interested enough can find them), they went along the lines of that if you doubled rail freight you would remove only 5% of the long distance trucks, and we all know how reliable trains are don't we.

 

[derekfaeberwick]

A big paper mill in Aberdeen stopped using trucks in favour of trains for a big national job, still needed trucks from the mill to the station though, this was great thought they. until their train was shunted into a siding somewhere and forgotten about for a while.

One phone call later from an understandably irate customer and we were all 'trucking' hate that 'kin word again.

 

[ajs]

I had. bikes when I was young and have always given them plenty of room since then.

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[FONT=&quot]surprised you can remember that far back [/FONT]

regards
aj

power = speed = overtake in less than 2 seconds rather than 7 seconds = safer

 

[derekfaeberwick]

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power = speed = overtake in less than 2 seconds rather than 7 seconds = safer

Weight= squashing motorbikes easy =safety. for me that is.

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[piper]

wrt police taking any notice, I have thought for some time that there is a market for a small semi permanent video camera, dash cam which runs continuosly making a record of whats happening in front. Runs off car power, sticks to window, records to memory card. Could probably make em and sell em for about £20.

I just wonder if it would provide enough evidence for police to take action.

Maybe there is one available already, anybody know ?

i have heard of cases where police have followed up on video evidence posted on youtube.

 

[ajs]

wrt police taking any notice, I have thought for some time that there is a market for a small semi permanent video camera, dash cam which runs continuosly making a record of whats happening in front. Runs off car power, sticks to window, records to memory card. Could probably make em and sell em for about £20.

I just wonder if it would provide enough evidence for police to take action.

Maybe there is one available already, anybody know ?

i have heard of cases where police have followed up on video evidence posted on youtube.

if i had 1 on the bike i could send in 20 or 30 vids per ride-out...


an assole every few miles...... be amazed


regards
aj

 

[piper]

Yea I ride a bike too ... 1200 Suzuki ..... so i do a fair bit of bad driving myself

btw I've ridden bikes for over 30 years so have plenty of experience.

Women car drivers are by far the worst imo.... they are quite simply on a different wave length

 

[ajs]

Yea I ride a bike too ... 1200 Suzuki ..... so i do a fair bit of bad driving myself

btw I've ridden bikes for over 30 years so have plenty of experience.

Women car drivers are by far the worst imo.... they are quite simply on a different wave length

concur...different planet..... lethal combination...
young blond in car...on the phone painting her nails at the same time...yes... seen it

sheeetalmighty...

regards
aj