Plan to ban coastal camping in Lincolnshire

[jennyp19]

Hello Jenny,

You were recently at this place and seem to have a very good idea of what's going down*. I was wondering whether you were able to ascertain that the "residents" mentioned were , in fact, Irish?


sean rua.

Not really* - just an observation of stopping the one night - we probably have same impression as a day visitor. Don't think they are "travellers" just set to stay for a long while. There is one large truck "supporting wild life" selling tea & coffee - donations being made for wild life.
4 vans parked close together. I didn't take too much notice apart from what I said previously.

 

[Smaug]

Not really* - just an observation of stopping the one night - we probably have same impression as a day visitor. Don't think they are "travellers" just set to stay for a long while. There is one large truck "supporting wild life" selling tea & coffee - donations being made for wild life.
4 vans parked close together. I didn't take too much notice apart from what I said previously.

So it is fundamentalist "Conservationistas" that are destroying the environment????

No people allowed, just me & my beloved wild animals.

 

[Randonneur]

Does anyone know if the disabled lad who lives in the estate car is still up there?????

 

[DTDog]

Does anyone know if the disabled lad who lives in the estate car is still up there?????

He was there a few weeks ago.

Now, that is a sad case.

 

[Randonneur]

Yes, I heard something of his circumstances the last time I was up there.

Shame really, but he seems to manage ok.

 

[trevskoda]

gipos

In the words of Lloyd Grosman,'lets consider the evidence' toys lying around and generators is more a trademark of new age/Irish travelers.

better not open my mouth on mainland or i would be for the rope,( good ulster man)

 

[sean rua]

Thanks, jenny and others, for the replies.

It seems to me that whoever is there they are unlikely to be Irish travellers.

Btw, what was the answer about where folk sit when they're out?
I see plenty of fishers using chairs and shelters, but I've never been to the place mentioned, so all I know about there is what I read on here.

sean rua.

 

[kimbowbill]

The 4 vans parked together could have been, myself, lotty, Dt dog and Kelly john, only one is a descendant of gypsies, we had chairs out but on the beach, we also did a litter pick, early morning and the evening, you will find that its the day trippers leave all the mess, MH's get the label of litter louts.

 

[Randonneur]

You should see Huttoft beach the morning after a busy summer's day, the amount of disposable barbecues just left on the sand is unbelievable! All left by car drivers who can't be a**ed to wait till they've cooled down then take them to the bins before they go back to their static caravans or home!!!!

 

[landyrubbertramp]

as i have said before thease probs will get worse and the prob is how democracy works in the uk instaed of a local mayor making brave decsions for the long term we have local cllrs looking at short term things, most ppl only seak to their council or cllrs when they have a prob and as a result the cllrs will fight for that person even if its just a minority view becasue hte cllr knows other people in his or her area arnt procative enough to give the majoity view, so we end up with decsions being made by a small minority of ppl because the majoirtyppl arnt botherned enough. other cuntier wil fight a die for a vote most ppl would sell thier vote for a pound if they could, i fear this problem will get worse not better, its sad but i have kinda given up on this country and spend more and more time abroad.

 

[scampa]

My OP wasn't meant to sound so judgemental, so please don't shoot the messenger.

Last week was the first time that I'd been in that area for quite a while, and that newspaper headline jumped out at me when I called in one of the shops. (I even spent 50p of my own money to buy a paper that I'd never heard of before, just to keep my fellow wildcampers informed!).

Until then, I hadn't heard of any problems or disputes in that area, other than the small amount that I'd read on a few threads on here. Do we have any members who live around there who could give us more history or updates on the situation with the council?

The article does seem to be typically skewed against the campervans, as if the day-trippers and tourists don't cause any problems, but we do need to keep in mind the sort of things that the anti-wilding brigade are looking for, and try not to give them too much ammunition to use against us!

Maingate, I may have assumed wrongly about the cause of the blocked toilets as I didn't inspect them, but unfortunately the day-trippers may have assumed wrongly too, and passed on their opinions to others. The conspiracy theorist in me now wonders if they may have been vandalised by locals in order to make life harder for the campers and discourage them from staying there?

Sean, I didn't get any impression of any travellers being there, Irish, New Age or whatever, just your average wildcamper and/or "free-camper". As for what folk sit on, I can't speak for everyone, but I tend to sit on my van step, or maybe a folding chair, or sometimes even on the sand or grass!

Kimbo, I don't think it was you that I saw in that area, or I definitely would've come across to say hello, and get the autographs of such a distinguished bunch!

The idea of the council ignoring a few wildcampers, or even providing basic facilities in return for a small fee sounds good, but might not please the local campsite owners or residents who are usually behind these complaints. As I've said, other, more local people may know a lot more than me about any problems or history of conflicts with the council and campsites in that area.

 

[Rockerboots]

I heard today on local radio that Great Yarmouth which is my main local seaside resort has reported a drop of 60% in business earnings so far this year. With easter just past the drop in earnings have been blamed on two things which where the weather, and apparently 200,000 more people traveling abroad. Surely the drop in takeings would be ringing alarm bells to all councils especially in tourist areas and should be trying to think up new ways to bring custom to their towns and not be looking at ways to stop people comming.
One lady came on to complain about the cost of a chalet on a holiday park for a week, that`s how a lot of us might feel about paying over the odds for a patch of grass on a designated area.
The councils of this country spend too much time listening to the wingers and whiners & don`t don`t seem to try a compromise that would work for all of us & maybe they could make a few quid along the way.

Sod the uk let`s all join the other 200,000. :lol-053:

 

[bru]

had a ride up lincs coast at weekend , nipped in all the beach parks ,all the barriers are up except huttoft , drove along the terrace but did not stop as there was already 23 motorhomes there ,
the disabled chap was there that lives in his car ,
there were vans with gas bottles outside and quite a few were parked with front wheels on the curb that devides the carpark from the footpath so the front ends were stuck over the footpath

part of the terrace was fenced off and workmen were there doing pipe work and are working there way along the beach

sorry no piccys as didn't have camera but will try to get up there again soon

 

[Deleted member 12539]

had a ride up lincs coast at weekend , nipped in all the beach parks ,all the barriers are up except huttoft , drove along the terrace but did not stop as there was already 23 motorhomes there ,
the disabled chap was there that lives in his car ,
there were vans with gas bottles outside and quite a few were parked with front wheels on the curb that devides the carpark from the footpath so the front ends were stuck over the footpath

part of the terrace was fenced off and workmen were there doing pipe work and are working there way along the beach

sorry no piccys as didn't have camera but will try to get up there again soon

Perhaps photos need to be taken of those vehicles making a mess, and posted on this site, and then when enough pictures are gathered, they could be sent to the relevant council authority.
Usually there is a good view of such 'crimes' as placing rubbish under the car from motorhome windows, where a good photo can be taken, without the photograper being seen.
This of course would also apply to 'overnighters' with huge gas bottles outside their vehicles!!!!

I have stayed there a couple of times over night in my last 'van, and had to park with the 2m overhang facing the sea, (is that over the footpath?) otherwise no vehicles would have been able to get past.

 

[landyrubbertramp]

Perhaps photos need to be taken of those vehicles making a mess, and posted on this site, and then when enough pictures are gathered, they could be sent to the relevant council authority.
Usually there is a good view of such 'crimes' as placing rubbish under the car from motorhome windows, where a good photo can be taken, without the photograper being seen.
This of course would also apply to 'overnighters' with huge gas bottles outside their vehicles!!!!

I have stayed there a couple of times over night in my last 'van, and had to park with the 2m overhang facing the sea, (is that over the footpath?) otherwise no vehicles would have been able to get past.

i can see where your coming from re the pics but i can assure you the council will accept the pics as they have to but they will not use them as eveidance if the person or vehicle has alread left this is due to enforcemnt and evidance, while taking a pic seem the best eveidance going at the end of the day it could have been takign while the van stoped for just one in to use the toilet or whatever , it will have a conter effect or it will do is be used the the conil and cclrs that m homes r the problem, the ppl who are not respectful prob would care if it was on this site or not and most are respectful on here anyway so i carnt see it making any diffrence. im sounding negative i know but relastic as i do alot with my local council and the community and see how the council work and think.

to me its about peroanl responsability if you are doing thr right thing thats enough, its beenshown many times the council dont listen to users in many forms, on the posative i think in time this will resolve itself. as been mentioned when theasse resorts realise thta m homes can be a money spinner they will go at it big ie with eu grant and other will watch and if they have even a slight adavtage they will all fall in to line its just a matter of time.

 

[bru]

Perhaps photos need to be taken of those vehicles making a mess, and posted on this site, and then when enough pictures are gathered, they could be sent to the relevant council authority.
Usually there is a good view of such 'crimes' as placing rubbish under the car from motorhome windows, where a good photo can be taken, without the photograper being seen.
This of course would also apply to 'overnighters' with huge gas bottles outside their vehicles!!!!

I have stayed there a couple of times over night in my last 'van, and had to park with the 2m overhang facing the sea, (is that over the footpath?) otherwise no vehicles would have been able to get past.

yes that's how I take it that the curbs are put there so far back from the beach to keep the traffic back so there is room for ppl to walk in between the cars and the beach ,
didn't notice any rubbish so don't think that was a problem ,

 

[Randonneur]

That guy with the horse box cafe type thing always parks with his two front wheels on the kerb stones. I suppose it must level up his living area for him. Don't know what he'll do when the height bar goes up, that'll be his living down the pan as well!!

 

[Rockerboots]

That guy with the horse box cafe type thing always parks with his two front wheels on the kerb stones. I suppose it must level up his living area for him. Don't know what he'll do when the height bar goes up, that'll be his living down the pan as well!!

If he`s an authorised trader with a license then he may get a key to the barrier if they put one up.

 

[Randonneur]

If he`s an authorised trader with a license then he may get a key to the barrier if they put one up.

I know he's been there for a long time. Don't know if he's legal or not. I just can't imagine he would have the necessary health and hygiene licenses to be authorised, especially as it's his living accommodation as well.

 

[Smaug]

I know he's been there for a long time. Don't know if he's legal or not. I just can't imagine he would have the necessary health and hygiene licenses to be authorised, especially as it's his living accommodation as well.

Wouldn't he need a traders' licence too? I would assume that if he has one, he will have to have them all, but it is perfectly possible that no-one has reported him & he doesn't have any.

My local Hygene Department would have checked him out if they saw him because they were the only "on the ball" section in the whole council when I worked there for a couple of years. But I fear that most Hygene officers just wouldn't want the hassle & would only respond if they thought they might get into trouble themselves (eg if a punter reported them, they would be obliged to do "something")

BTW, the reason why our Hygene Dept was good? They had a good manager who new the job & his people & thus they all took pride in their work. Don't know why that should be so rare in local govt, but it sure is.