Parking at Castleton

[barge1914]

I said this would happen eventually. Parking restrictions at Castleton which effectively stop wild camping. Some free parking remains, but it’s mostly along the more steeply sloping sections of Old Mam Tor road where it’s difficult to get level.
This is largely in response to massively anti social parking by the TicTock generation. But also thanks to the few idiots in campervans who thing chucking their crap behind the field walls won’t be noticed…it has been!

Castleton parking changes - Derbyshire County Council

www.derbyshire.gov.uk

 

[Nabsim]

From what I have seen there is very little difference with the new marking, they are just emphasising where you should never have been parking. Still all the marked areas to overnight on both up top and on bottom road.

The problems here were not just camper vans but cars as well, when its busy they were parking everywhere on both sides even in tight spots

 

[izwozral]

Respect for the environment appears to be a thing of the past these days. We are seeing more and more litter where previously you would see none.

Perhaps there ought to be another advertising campaign like the ones in the 1970's. Maybe even try to get celebrities and influencers [how I detest those terms] to spread the message Keep Britain Tidy.

 

[barge1914]

Ah but. Thé 4 lower bays, those along the level area at the bottom of Old Mam Tor road where most motorhomes park, will be made pay to park, with max 4 hour parking, operational from July onwards.

 

[mistericeman]

Locals have been out with pitchforks for years....

The recent explosion post covid with Vloggers/vanlif....

(I can't even bring myself to finish that) tiktok/YouTube crap has just intensified the issues....

And led to conflict.....

Business owners there will always have streams of folks wandering around that will spend all their time (and probably money)
Rather someone that is going to have a brief visit then dissappear back to where they've parked (and often drinking/eating stuff they have brought with them)

Yes I know a lot like myself will generally eat out each day... BUT Lots don't.

 

[Fazerloz]

Respect for the environment appears to be a thing of the past these days. We are seeing more and more litter where previously you would see none.

Perhaps there ought to be another advertising campaign like the ones in the 1970's. Maybe even try to get celebrities and influencers [how I detest those terms] to spread the message Keep Britain Tidy.

I think these days you see far more litter due to council cutbacks than anything else. Litter bins are always overflowing which shows people will use them but they are simply not emptied oft enough.

 

[mistericeman]

I think these days you see far more litter due to council cutbacks than anything else. Litter bins are always overflowing which shows people will use them but they are simply not emptied oft enough.

"SOME" will use them.....

I've seen folks drop their maccy ds wrapper in a carpark whilst parked NEXT to the bin....

Some folks are just feral knuckle dragging scrotes.

 

[Fazerloz]

"SOME" will use them.....

I've seen folks drop their maccy ds wrapper in a carpark whilst parked NEXT to the bin....

Some folks are just feral knuckle dragging scrotes.

It must be nice to live in such a happy world.

 

[mistericeman]

It must be nice to live in such a happy world.

So that ISN'T what happens then?

 

[Fazerloz]

So that ISN'T what happens then?

Have I denied it is happening. Take a pill. End of.

 

[mistericeman]

Have I denied it is happening. Take a pill. End of.

Whatever......

 

[mistericeman]

Have I denied it is happening. Take a pill. End of.

It's cool....

You've just reminded me of why I rarely log in here anymore.

 

[molly 2]

But all these campervans keep the professional fly tippers away ,

 

[Nabsim]

well in this instance I would say vans are the minority problem for bad parking and litter in that area. lived very close to it for 40 years so saw a bit of what goes on.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Respect for the environment appears to be a thing of the past these days. We are seeing more and more litter where previously you would see none.

Perhaps there ought to be another advertising campaign like the ones in the 1970's. Maybe even try to get celebrities and influencers [how I detest those terms] to spread the message Keep Britain Tidy.

Needs education. Fat chance of that happening nowadays, Ral.

Littering in the UK has been a problem for decades, there is nothing new about it. It has always been a pet hate of mine. Growing up in our household we were taught that littering was a cardinal sin!

But you’re right about it being an increasing problem. The proliferation of fast food joints and the mountains of product packaging - and (supposedly!) cheap throw away goods, like tents for gawd’s sake! - have contributed big time to the mountains of cr*p you find littering the country.

Bizarrely, at least to my mind, it is now somehow accepted as perfectly normal to have community volunteer litter picks. How is that going to solve the problem? It may temporarily tidy the place for a few days, but it will never solve the underlying anti-social behaviour, i.e. people who think it is OK to chuck their rubbish anywhere and everywhere with impunity.

There are litter laws, but they are hardly ever enforced.

We have been a “throw away” society for some time now and there is no p*l*t*c*l will (or money) to tackle the problem at source.

Answers on a postcard please…

 

[Nabsim]

Needs education. Fat chance of that happening nowadays, Ral.

Littering in the UK has been a problem for decades, there is nothing new about it. It has always been a pet hate of mine. Growing up in our household we were taught that littering was a cardinal sin!

But you’re right about it being an increasing problem. The proliferation of fast food joints and the mountains of product packaging - and (supposedly!) cheap throw away goods, like tents for gawd’s sake! - have contributed big time to the mountains of cr*p you find littering the country.

Bizarrely, at least to my mind, it is now somehow accepted as perfectly normal to have community volunteer litter picks. How is that going to solve the problem? It may temporarily tidy the place for a few days, but it will never solve the underlying anti-social behaviour, i.e. people who think it is OK to chuck their rubbish anywhere and everywhere with impunity.

There are litter laws, but they are hardly ever enforced.

We have been a “throw away” society for some time now and there is no p*l*t*c*l will (or money) to tackle the problem at source.

Answers on a postcard please…

Was a local group Facebook post yesterday about a van that had been parked outside a house drove off leaving a bottle of pee in the road. After a couple of hours the culprit was identified and it turned out to be an Amazon delivery person. Seems it happens quite often but first I had heard. When the post first went up I thought, here we go, another anti-van life post. Nice to see it wasn't but I would think these would usually be blamed on van life folks

 

[edina]

Was a local group Facebook post yesterday about a van that had been parked outside a house drove off leaving a bottle of pee in the road. After a couple of hours the culprit was identified and it turned out to be an Amazon delivery person. Seems it happens quite often but first I had heard. When the post first went up I thought, here we go, another anti-van life post. Nice to see it wasn't but I would think these would usually be blamed on van life folks

Bottles of Trucker's Tizer used to be common in laybyes

 

[Norfolk NewBoy]

Needs education. Fat chance of that happening nowadays, Ral.



There are litter laws, but they are hardly ever enforced.

We have been a “throw away” society for some time now and there is no p*l*t*c*l will (or money) to tackle the problem at source.

Answers on a postcard please…

At the school I taught in, a different tutor group was tasked with clearing the grounds every week. Is that what you mean?
Some pupils argued, quite reasonably in my opinion, that this was putting employees out of a job. Is full employment something which society would like?

How often do we see reports in the papers of someone fined for dropping something in the street, only for a social media campaign to start sympathy for the "victim", accusing council enforcement officers of bullying and being "jobs-worths"?

 

[Nabsim]

Bottles of Trucker's Tizer used to be common in laybyes

Still is Chris but I hadn't realised delivery drivers leaving them outside houses in plain view was a thing now lol

 

[mariesnowgoose]

At the school I taught in, a different tutor group was tasked with clearing the grounds every week. Is that what you mean?
Some pupils argued, quite reasonably in my opinion, that this was putting employees out of a job. Is full employment something which society would like?

How often do we see reports in the papers of someone fined for dropping something in the street, only for a social media campaign to start sympathy for the "victim", accusing council enforcement officers of bullying and being "jobs-worths"?

Social media is an ass and a menace.

The litter should not be deliberately thrown away in the first place.

This argument about littering giving “someone a job” is a load of twaddle and utterly irrational, imho

Litter is everywhere, not just in urban streets and school premises, so in the meantime, some poor wee specimen of wildlife (or domestic, could equally be cats, dogs, horses etc ) gets injured or trapped by the sh*te some lazy, dirty a-hole has chucked away without any thought or understanding of the impact.

Not that I have any particularly strong opinion on the matter you understand…