Pandemic vs the British Pub

witzend

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If we ever get anywhere near normal thens the time to reopen pubs. Till then keep them shut until at least all adults have had the jab and get their passports
 
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Oh and I’ve booked a Turkish Barber on the 12th for the full works, shave, hair cut, nose hair and fire in me ears
I went to one of those in Turkey once. Worst experience of my life. Not only did they try and set fire to me they did this neck, shoulders and head massage thing which went on for ages, there was about three of them, I never stood a chance. I felt like I had been beaten up and torched at the end of it all. Ill be going back to Brexit Bobs Ingleeesh Barbers in Darlo when this is all over. Fiver, porn mag and a load of dirty jokes! :ROFLMAO:
 

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That’s it, burn your ears, rip the hair out of your nostrils with hot wax on a stick, and attack you with both hands, feels great afterwards
 

alcam

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Wotchu tryin' to say Marie?

I don't mind the odd schooner of Sherry at Christmas maybe but otherwise I hardly touch any alcohol.

(Whoops sorry, that's the speech for the doc

Vaccinations dont stop you carrying and passing on the bug, just you will not get it as bad after having, folk seem to get mixed up about this.
Sure I've read that there has been some research done (not conclusive) which suggests you won't pass on the bug ?
 

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Rob....we'll be at Breckland Meadows (Swatham) then Three Rivers (Beccles) in May...so hope them pubs near there are open by then !!! Maja
 

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I do feel that there has to be a point at which we say " take your chances" to people who have chosen not to be vaccinated. If they choose to go to the pub they are the most at risk of getting the bug which those who already been vaccinated may ( or not!) be carrying? Those at highest risk and most vulnerable are now all vaccinated and can choose whether to go or not based on the venues safety rules in place. If they are high risk and chosen not to be vaccinated...again, their choice and accompanying risk. The new variants are a risk which I think we are going to have to live with as covid becomes endemic in the population, hopefully vaccines will catch up. As long as distancing, masks as appropriate, and proper hygiene is continued, I feel that we should be able to open up. Many will disagree, I am sure, but the vaccination programme continues, and we need to move forward slowly but surely.
 

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I do feel that there has to be a point at which we say " take your chances" to people who have chosen not to be vaccinated. If they choose to go to the pub they are the most at risk of getting the bug which those who already been vaccinated may ( or not!) be carrying? Those at highest risk and most vulnerable are now all vaccinated and can choose whether to go or not based on the venues safety rules in place. If they are high risk and chosen not to be vaccinated...again, their choice and accompanying risk. The new variants are a risk which I think we are going to have to live with as covid becomes endemic in the population, hopefully vaccines will catch up. As long as distancing, masks as appropriate, and proper hygiene is continued, I feel that we should be able to open up. Many will disagree, I am sure, but the vaccination programme continues, and we need to move forward slowly but surely.

"Those at highest risk and most vulnerable are now all vaccinated"

They are? If you are referring to those on the JCVI priority list, you need to think again. Some people on that list (me for example) will not have had an opportunity for a first dose let alone a second one even by the time England has lifted significant restrictions on the 12th April.
 

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"Those at highest risk and most vulnerable are now all vaccinated"

They are? If you are referring to those on the JCVI priority list, you need to think again. Some people on that list (me for example) will not have had an opportunity for a first dose let alone a second one even by the time England has lifted significant restrictions on the 12th April.

I'm highest risk CEV etc. Second jab this Friday 9th April, but I really had to fight hard to get it brought forward, otherwise it would have been left until mid-May.

That was despite emerging data feedback on the vaccine that anyone with a suppressed immune system needs to get the second jab a lot closer to the first than the current 12 weeks, ideally no longer than 4 to 6 weeks. They've been reporting that protection is not as effective for anyone immuno- suppressed if the gap between 1st and 2nd vaccines is left much longer than that. The group I'm in wasn't included in the original vaccine trials for Pfizer or Astra, so the data about it's effectiveness could only start when the official rollout began.

The experiment continues and it's still too early to tell if the vaccines are working as well across every demographic.

I think witzend made a good point about opening everything up too early, i.e. before the most at risk have had both vaccines.
It would make sense to wait until everyone in the highest risk categories have had that second jab, but then everything else is suffering in the meantime.

There's a fair amount of crossing fingers and hoping going on. 🤷‍♀️

Only time will tell. Meantime just continue to take care and stay safe, I guess.
 

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Spoke to the practice manager at my GP surgery last week and found out it has now been designated as a "local hub" through until December 2021 and will deal with all the vaccine requirements from a bunch of other local GP practices.

Maybe they are doing something similar in your area, Graham?
Makes sense in a way. I'm assuming this is to free up the rest of the GP practices who can start to concentrate on more normal GP stuff again?
 

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"Those at highest risk and most vulnerable are now all vaccinated"

They are? If you are referring to those on the JCVI priority list, you need to think again. Some people on that list (me for example) will not have had an opportunity for a first dose let alone a second one even by the time England has lifted significant restrictions on the 12th April.
Apologies! I understood that this had happened, especially since both of us who are low risk have been offered ours. Maybe it ought to have been "should" be all vaccinated :(
Well, in your situation I wouldn't be risking going to pubs anyway....we certainly won't until we have had both vaccinations, unless very confident about the safety measures in situ at the venue. A passport/ certificate would stop you being allowed to enter even if you were happy with precautions, which restricts your choices... as I said earlier....I think the individual has to consider their own risk. But slowly we do need to move forward..
 

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