Norway Roadtoll and ferries and the 2 bridges

[Kalleiviken]

At this time of year in northern Sweden, the greywater tank must be open all the time. I also have had a 230V heating cable inside the tank to keep the tank frost free. Have a nice trip and watch out for the reindeer herds at the roadside.

 

[mark61]

The ice road to the islands near Lulea can be fun, if still open.
Probably better at - 30 than 0 degrees though.

 

[Deleted member 86180]

At this time of year in northern Sweden, the greywater tank must be open all the time. I also have had a 230V heating cable inside the tank to keep the tank frost free. Have a nice trip and watch out for the reindeer herds at the roadside.

I managed to work out leaving the grey waste open when the underside of the van began ice build up, but thanks for the tip. We’ve found that most car parks have nicely positioned drains to take the grey. We’ve been pouring -15 degree antifreeze down the plug holes before taking showers. Lots of supermarkets and truck stops have designated motorhome park ups with hook up, and heated shower blocks, the one we are in tonight was €5, some are dearer though. Also lots of rast plats had heated toilets and places to empty toilet cassettes. All very civilised.

 

[Deleted member 86180]

 

[Deleted member 86180]

The ice road to the islands near Lulea can be fun, if still open.
Probably better at - 30 than 0 degrees though.

Looked open, we stayed at the motorhome/boat store there, cost about £12 with hook up and black waste facility.

 

[Deleted member 86180]

We saw the northern lights that night in Lulea but unfortunately my camera skills are just not up to it

 

[colinm]

We’ve been pouring -15 degree antifreeze down the plug holes before taking showers.

Back in the day, when I was a 'lad', learnt to put plug in bathroom basin, open hot tap until water was hot, remove plug to warm up waste pipe, then clean teeth with cold water. Doing it other way round when we had metal waste pipes would freeze the waste pipe.

 

[Derekoak]

We are still planning on going. We will cross the channel with dfds, then the big bridges, travel up through Sweden and down through some of Norway and Sweden and Denmark. Will getting the bizz gadget maximise the ferry and bridge savings or do we need other accounts?
We will stay with a friend in Denmark otherwise doing similar route and mileage as @jagmanx post#30

 

[jagmanx]

For various reasons...We cannot go this year.
Hoping for 2023 !
We would wish to use the full 90 days. And we cannot go for at least 2 weeks. That is too late IMHO.

 

[jagmanx]

We know some things are costly bit camping is good and van be bery cheap.
Yes the "Big Bridges" are more convenient than ferries.
Going north in Sweden suggest to us that mid to late May (ideally 21st)is a good time to cross to Calais.

 

[Derekoak]

EPass as long as you have a Euro 6 engine (2015 +) Bridges, tolls and I believe ferries too, but I’ll update about that when we hit Bodo waiting for the ferry over to the Lofotens. Currently about 40 miles from Copenhagen on a free Aire with free hook up waiting for my spag bol

What about the Epass. We have a euro6 engine?

 

[Derekoak]

So further research appears to show that the bro bizz device costs 200 danish krone this used to be a deposit returnable when you posted back the device, but from Feb 2021 it is a payment when you have finished with it you put it in electronic waste recycling. It is still worth getting as long as you go both ways over the storbaelt and Oresund bridges. It does give other discounts on Norwegian tolls and ferries though
If you keep it it is cancelled after 3 years of non use or if the battery dies (and is not replaced).
The epass24 does the same things as the brobizz pass but I think without the bridge discounts. the euro6 engine is to do with congestion toll discounts in Scandi cities. Probably best to avoid them park outside and cycle or get public transport.
There is a fremtind website that also provides a Norway toll tag, and that is still 200kr deposit. but brobizz is more universal. The fremtind site has a nice map of toll booths and a route toll calculator.
I am going to buy a brobizz 3 weeks before I go. It is possible we may go to Scandi again within 3 years.

 

[Derekoak]

Further research based on what Nixby said, I now think the cheapest solution for us and probably others under 3500kg is not the Danish brobizz, as it now costs 200kr no longer a deposit. And to get the Oresund discount you must add the oresund agreement which costs 45 euro annually!
It Is a fremtind transducer which costs but is only a deposit returnable on cancelling the agreement and I assume posting the transducer. This gives 20% discount on Norweigian tolls. And some discount on the danish bridges but you can do better there. Go to the oreseund bridge (by the fremtind link) and get an annual pass for 45 euro this gives a free oresund bizz and a car discount for 41 euro each way. When you have your bizz ensure it has an attached private agreement for the great belt ( Storebaelt) bridge which gives a 60kr discount each way. To avoid 2 transducers confusing one another wrap the one you are not using in foil. I think that works.

 

[Drover]

For various reasons...We cannot go this year.
Hoping for 2023 !
We would wish to use the full 90 days. And we cannot go for at least 2 weeks. That is too late IMHO.

Much the same as us as we now have the grandchildren for the uk summer holidays, so we are taking them to Southern France ...

Back to the north.?.... as tunnel for france
Is there an easy way of working out costings between a 6 mtr and our 7.5mtr motorhome on ferry routes....now wishing we had a computer.... trying to work for june/july/aug time 2023

 

[jagmanx]

Much the same as us as we now have the grandchildren for the uk summer holidays, so we are taking them to Southern France ...

Back to the north.?.... as tunnel for france
Is there an easy way of working out costings between a 6 mtr and our 7.5mtr motorhome on ferry routes....now wishing we had a computer.... trying to work for june/july/aug time 2023

Norway ferries a bit tricky to cost.
Many cannot be avoided anyway.
Possible to get 50% discount for many...need a smartphone or tablet.
How do you access WC ...screen on phone a bit small for me.
I tether my 10 in Tablet.
Will post some links over the winter when I can use my pc

 

[Drover]

Norway ferries a bit tricky to cost.
Many cannot be avoided anyway.
Possible to get 50% discount for many...need a smartphone or tablet.
How do you access WC ...screen on phone a bit small for me.
I tether my 10 in Tablet.
Will post some links over the winter when I can use my pc

Thanks. Sally has Samsung s20 phone . I have a s7 plus a broken screen10inch tablet.... we have a laptop but the wind up handle is very slow .it loads a page an hour.
Screens are very small and hard for me to use... we should really buy a laptop. Sally is so much better than me at the small screens but doesn't post on forums.

 

[jagmanx]

Look at cex / entertainment exchange
They have 2nd hand items at sensible prices. Difficult choice is windows or android but size pf screen may well decide that for u.
I avoid apple devices...my own pet hate. As with marmite !

 

[Derekoak]

Norway ferries a bit tricky to cost.
Many cannot be avoided anyway.
Possible to get 50% discount for many...need a smartphone or tablet.
How do you access WC ...screen on phone a bit small for me.
I tether my 10 in Tablet.
Will post some links over the winter when I can use my pc

I would be interested on how I might get up to 50% discount on ferries, but cannot wait for winter. I think the Fremtind transducer gives up to 20% but everything is so hard to work out Online even with a 10 inch screen.
Nothing like info from people who have done it.

 

[saxonborg]

I would be interested on how I might get up to 50% discount on ferries, but cannot wait for winter. I think the Fremtind transducer gives up to 20% but everything is so hard to work out Online even with a 10 inch screen.
Nothing like info from people who have done it.

Don’t know if you are familiar with this:-https://autopassferje.no/?lang=en

 

[Derekoak]

Thank you. Probably the last piece of the jigsaw.
Amongst all the other websites, I visited that one but misunderstood. I thought that this was only available or needed for vehicles over 3500kg. On a proper read I can see that for us with a camper under 3500kg and under 6m we are in class 1 so must make a prepayment of 3000 NOK in order to get the fremtind 10% discount upgraded to 50%. Everything left in the account after our 3 months is returned to our account, on closure over the internet, within 21 days. I will go for that.