bob690
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Hey Lazncaz, dont snort it all up at once, chill and take deep breaths, there.... thats better....Bob
No Overnight Parking - Scotland
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lazncaz
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woe,woe and thrice woe!
Kontiki,relax dear heart,and when you get swine flu,just make sure you get up close and personal with as many frail looking anti motorhome people,as you can.
For those of you who like a bit of "rough trade",try Cooden Beach (Yes,the Mulsanne Straight of Sussex) Very entertaining.Tell me,has the ancient caravan that the old chap paid fifty squid for,only to suffer a collapsed chassis,disappeared yet? (He was DEV - STATED!) And the three imbibers who kept falling out,still there? Why they kept throwing the poor woman out in the rain,complete with her plastic bottle of cider,defeats me.
Stella Plage,south of Le Touquet,was FABULOUS on the night of 14th July.Tens of thousands of people having a great time.Campervans parked everywhere.Le Touquet was similar all that week,although the town must have a guardian angel because thousands of people,kids in hired pedal carts,cyclists,roller bladders,sorry,I mean bladers,cars,camper vans etc,all bustled along the PACKED front,and nobody was injured.A miracle darlings,don't you agree?.The parking at the airport is free.The others are peanuts,or should it be cacahuetes?
Does anybody know who The Belgian is? He seems to be The Stig of motorhome locations.Please tell me he's not a Johnny Halliday fan,who makes chocalate and brews his own beer.
Kontiki,relax dear heart,and when you get swine flu,just make sure you get up close and personal with as many frail looking anti motorhome people,as you can.
For those of you who like a bit of "rough trade",try Cooden Beach (Yes,the Mulsanne Straight of Sussex) Very entertaining.Tell me,has the ancient caravan that the old chap paid fifty squid for,only to suffer a collapsed chassis,disappeared yet? (He was DEV - STATED!) And the three imbibers who kept falling out,still there? Why they kept throwing the poor woman out in the rain,complete with her plastic bottle of cider,defeats me.
Stella Plage,south of Le Touquet,was FABULOUS on the night of 14th July.Tens of thousands of people having a great time.Campervans parked everywhere.Le Touquet was similar all that week,although the town must have a guardian angel because thousands of people,kids in hired pedal carts,cyclists,roller bladders,sorry,I mean bladers,cars,camper vans etc,all bustled along the PACKED front,and nobody was injured.A miracle darlings,don't you agree?.The parking at the airport is free.The others are peanuts,or should it be cacahuetes?
Does anybody know who The Belgian is? He seems to be The Stig of motorhome locations.Please tell me he's not a Johnny Halliday fan,who makes chocalate and brews his own beer.
sueg
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Totally agree - just got back from week on the west Coast. Quite frustrating finding these signs on laybys in the middle of nowhere, not near a camp site and barely any traffic. Who would we be bothering, turning up at 7 and leaving at 9? That said, we never stopped where these signs were as we would not want to damage any local goodwill towards our wildcamping brethren. We are perfecting the art of a searching glance down side roads- something always turns up.
Forestry car parks very mixed - we actually found one with a sign which said 'Sorry no overnight camping for motorhomes'. So does that mean we could have camped with a caravan or a tent? Would be nice if the Forestry Commission had a blanket policy - preferably a welcoming one!
Forestry car parks very mixed - we actually found one with a sign which said 'Sorry no overnight camping for motorhomes'. So does that mean we could have camped with a caravan or a tent? Would be nice if the Forestry Commission had a blanket policy - preferably a welcoming one!
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Airecraft
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One would appear to enjoy blowing ones trumpet.
Made me laugh.
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'lazncaz' Just don't understand the point of the post?? Not so much as off topic but not anything to do with wildcamping in Scotland.
If you read my first post it was about the numerous 'No Overnight Parking' many of which seemed quite new stuck on every little pull in (not hardly a lay by) in some areas, to me that might almost be interpreted as Motorhomers Go Home, we did notice on many of the towns & villages that it had 'Haste Ye Back' on the signs when leaving, maybe there was something underneath in small print saying 'not applicable to motorhomes' ;-)
Almost everybody we met in Scotland we found very warm & friendly, & we will go back sometime but we know that we will give some areas a wide berth.
If you read my first post it was about the numerous 'No Overnight Parking' many of which seemed quite new stuck on every little pull in (not hardly a lay by) in some areas, to me that might almost be interpreted as Motorhomers Go Home, we did notice on many of the towns & villages that it had 'Haste Ye Back' on the signs when leaving, maybe there was something underneath in small print saying 'not applicable to motorhomes' ;-)
Almost everybody we met in Scotland we found very warm & friendly, & we will go back sometime but we know that we will give some areas a wide berth.
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bob690
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Just goes to show that you cant get any decent dust these days man. Its probably been cut with vim. Know a good nose reconstruction guy...chill....Bob
irenerobbie
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N o p
Why do we not just ignore the signs. the police aren't interested and the council is highly unlikely to take you to court , unless you stay for months. It's the height restrictors that are more of a problem, unless you,re a locksmith.
p.s i carry yellow tape which turns it into OVERNIGHT PARKING. It wasnae me your honour.
Why do we not just ignore the signs. the police aren't interested and the council is highly unlikely to take you to court , unless you stay for months. It's the height restrictors that are more of a problem, unless you,re a locksmith.
p.s i carry yellow tape which turns it into OVERNIGHT PARKING. It wasnae me your honour.
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I have some 24hr yellow and black stickers they do the trick
it is not the police or council you need to look out for it is the nasty jobsworth local that comes round in the dark to do his work. The worst one I have met lives in Durness
Alf
I have some 24hr yellow and black stickers they do the trick
it is not the police or council you need to look out for it is the nasty jobsworth local that comes round in the dark to do his work. The worst one I have met lives in Durness
Alf
noody
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I think this is do-able if only on the basis of common-law (For want of a better expression)
It appears everyone (Traveler) has the right to retire in an appropriate place and to sleep until you are refreshed enough to continue.
I can't remember, do these signs have the name of the authority who has the authority to refuse an overnight stay.
Richard.
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No Overnight Parking
The signs are erected by the Highland Council the authority for the Highland region they are just the basic road sign and state No Overnight Parking these are on laybys ,sections of old road and viewpoints etc.
The signs No Overnight Parking for Motorcaravans seem to private signs on private land
Alf
The signs are erected by the Highland Council the authority for the Highland region they are just the basic road sign and state No Overnight Parking these are on laybys ,sections of old road and viewpoints etc.
The signs No Overnight Parking for Motorcaravans seem to private signs on private land
Alf
PaulC
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Well what about clampers? Not a problem in Scotland I believe, but I heard on 5 Live two weeks ago they are a law to themselves. Anywhere, any time and you are clamped!
irenerobbie
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trouble in DURNESS
I know the person that probably gave you the hassle for wild camping in Durness, he's the owner of the local campsite, surprise, surprise and he,s been hassling folks for years. most people in the village are happy for anyone coming into the area , they need the pennies.
I know the person that probably gave you the hassle for wild camping in Durness, he's the owner of the local campsite, surprise, surprise and he,s been hassling folks for years. most people in the village are happy for anyone coming into the area , they need the pennies.
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Trouble in the north west highlands
No it was his mate just down the road each time we pass and see his pickup in the drive I fancy stopping and going back but well there are more things in life ! But he is as bad wanted £8 to fill up with fresh water in June
Regards
Alf
No it was his mate just down the road each time we pass and see his pickup in the drive I fancy stopping and going back but well there are more things in life ! But he is as bad wanted £8 to fill up with fresh water in June
Regards
Alf
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This sounds more like the reason for all the signs, localism. Ok, let's get back to basics, if you own land you have the right to refuse access for the likes of a caravan or motorhome but you do-not have the right to give permission other than to allow what I guess would be common law right for rest.
I bet we have law that dates back to goodness-knows-when that allows a traveler to park-up and rest, the same law that allowed a carriage driver to urinate on the near-side rear wheel. I think it still exists but don't try-it because I think another law exists about exposing yourself though the idea of urinating on the near-side (or was it the off-side) was for decency.
If you parked-up on my land for a stopover I could ask you to leave but I couldn't force you to leave or intimidate you, right ? If I had fitted a sign saying N.O.P. would that change my rights or yours ? I don't think a sign makes any difference.
As travelers I think we have different rights to common parking rights though someone needs to research this.
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Trouble in the north west highlands
Remember the vagaries of Scottish Law they don’t work the same as our (English) laws. If you are staying overnight you would normally have gone before some enforcement agency could turn up but with 4 flat tyres and damaged paintwork is it worth stopping just to prove a point to A********.
It was the near side front wheel when I was a young boy!!
stood with your back to facing traffic!!
Alf
Remember the vagaries of Scottish Law they don’t work the same as our (English) laws. If you are staying overnight you would normally have gone before some enforcement agency could turn up but with 4 flat tyres and damaged paintwork is it worth stopping just to prove a point to A********.
It was the near side front wheel when I was a young boy!!
stood with your back to facing traffic!!
Alf
niblue
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We've been up in the north west of Scotland for the last few days (currently in Gairloch) and while there are quite a few spots that have the "No overnight parking" signs the vast majority of spots, including the best ones IMHO don't.
Even at Durness the best wild camping spot is probably the car park/viewpoint south of the village beside the road to the Cape Wrath ferry. We overnighted there earlier in the week with no problems. There were also a couple of other vans there (and even a tent).
Even at Durness the best wild camping spot is probably the car park/viewpoint south of the village beside the road to the Cape Wrath ferry. We overnighted there earlier in the week with no problems. There were also a couple of other vans there (and even a tent).
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Niblue, 5 years or so ago there were none of these signs, we have been going to the Highlands for 30years
Did you see any of these signs in the Western Isles?
We were in the Highlands for 15 days in June stayed on a site 1 night only yes if you know where they are you can wild camp overnight that is not the problem
Whilst in the Durness area did you not see the No Overnight Parking for Motor caravans, a car,bike,pickup,lorry but no motor caravans?
Lay-bys and stretches of old road miles from anywhere no houses in sight only the sea in view but No Overnight Parking why local pressure on the Highland Council mainly by site owners.
IMHO The beach car park at Balnakeil or the old road by the turn off to Rispond is the places to be to walk on the beach from the latter has been one of our favourites for over 30years.
You were lucky on the Keoldale gravel viewpoint not to be blocked in by other vehicles
Alf
Niblue, 5 years or so ago there were none of these signs, we have been going to the Highlands for 30years
Did you see any of these signs in the Western Isles?
We were in the Highlands for 15 days in June stayed on a site 1 night only yes if you know where they are you can wild camp overnight that is not the problem
Whilst in the Durness area did you not see the No Overnight Parking for Motor caravans, a car,bike,pickup,lorry but no motor caravans?
Lay-bys and stretches of old road miles from anywhere no houses in sight only the sea in view but No Overnight Parking why local pressure on the Highland Council mainly by site owners.
IMHO The beach car park at Balnakeil or the old road by the turn off to Rispond is the places to be to walk on the beach from the latter has been one of our favourites for over 30years.
You were lucky on the Keoldale gravel viewpoint not to be blocked in by other vehicles
Alf
noody
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Alf, how about this for an idea ?
Just in the last 5 years motorhome ownership has has escalated out of all proportion to the facilities we have in the UK ?
It shows at my local beach car-parking and yes, some motorhome owners have caused concern for car-park officers and other car-park users, right-now on a nice day the beach-view car-park could be 50% motorhomes parked in every-other space and in some cases set-up their dining table and chairs in the next bay.
If the bloke in Durness (Who is clearly an Ass-hole in any-case) has been subject to some of the attitude I've seen from us, 'Jonny-come-lately' types then it's understandable even though there's no excuse for intimidation and aggression. He'll only bump into someone who enjoys the challenge.
When I met-up with the, "Follow-the-wind-tour" vans last year at Dornoch they had taken-over a complete car-park and though they were a happy-lot and having fun some local big-boy came to the car-park and started throwing his weight about complete with lots of foul language directed not only at the blokes but ladies and youngsters. Fortunately he was dealing with some very bright people who reminded him of the consequences of his proposed action.
He decided to leave them in peace and they later found camping at the local rugby club though used the car-park for next few days as a car-park.
No need for the aggression but I can see why local attitudes may change towards us.
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Richard Roggan. Distinguished kitesurfing Gentleman.
I don't do tricks.
Just in the last 5 years motorhome ownership has has escalated out of all proportion to the facilities we have in the UK ?
It shows at my local beach car-parking and yes, some motorhome owners have caused concern for car-park officers and other car-park users, right-now on a nice day the beach-view car-park could be 50% motorhomes parked in every-other space and in some cases set-up their dining table and chairs in the next bay.
If the bloke in Durness (Who is clearly an Ass-hole in any-case) has been subject to some of the attitude I've seen from us, 'Jonny-come-lately' types then it's understandable even though there's no excuse for intimidation and aggression. He'll only bump into someone who enjoys the challenge.
When I met-up with the, "Follow-the-wind-tour" vans last year at Dornoch they had taken-over a complete car-park and though they were a happy-lot and having fun some local big-boy came to the car-park and started throwing his weight about complete with lots of foul language directed not only at the blokes but ladies and youngsters. Fortunately he was dealing with some very bright people who reminded him of the consequences of his proposed action.
He decided to leave them in peace and they later found camping at the local rugby club though used the car-park for next few days as a car-park.
No need for the aggression but I can see why local attitudes may change towards us.
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Richard Roggan. Distinguished kitesurfing Gentleman.
I don't do tricks.