New Vehicle Excise Rates

[RichardP]

Coming in April there's a large supplement for cars with a list price over £40000 which applies in years 2 to 5. Something like an additional £400 each year, so around £1600 extra in total.
I can't think of any motorhome or campervan which would retail under that figure so am I right in assuming owners of any vehicles registered from 2021 onwards will drop for this
Ours is a 22 reg so I'll be taxing it in March to miss the April hike;

 

[maingate]

Apart from the supplement, the vehicle excise licence for many cars is rising significantly. Luckily, my road tax renews on March 1st.

 

[Obanboy666]

My Volvo has recently dropped from £520.00 to £224.00 a year, I assume its because its 5 years old but me be wrong.

 

[trevskoda]

My Volvo has recently dropped from £520.00 to £224.00 a year, I assume its because its 5 years old but me be wrong.

Thats to allow you to get the indicators fixed

 

[Robmac]

I thought it only applies for new vehicles registered in 2025.

 

[RichardP]

The supplement seems to affect cars up to 5 years old including electric ones

 

[Nesting Zombie]

I’m use to pay around the £180ish mark for all my past PHGV Livaboard homes.
I can remember a sharp intake of breath when I paid for MOs Tax Last year, Most I’ve ever paid -

Haven’t a clue how much to expect to pay this year .

 

[trevskoda]

They go just as well without the tax, when stopped just say your a joy rider.

 

[number14]

My van is private/light goods up to 3500kg for taxation so it's £345 for me. Surely that's the rate for most of us on here.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Good reason to buy an older van I suppose, might even inflate their prices a tad.

mines an 07 so safe from this crapola.

 

[Nesting Zombie]

My van is private/light goods up to 3500kg for taxation so it's £345 for me. Surely that's the rate for most of us on here.

Hi ya number14,

my last 3 Livaboard homes have all been PHGV (5000kg) & each was taxed at around the £180 mark up to 2023.
My current Livaboard vehicle is 4000kg, NOT PHGV -

(Don’t get me started on that one with DVLA ) & taxed for the last 2 years at £345 ish

 

[Drover]

Hi ya number14,

my last 3 Livaboard homes have all been PHGV (5000kg) & each was taxed at around the £180 mark up to 2023.
My current Livaboard vehicle is 4000kg, NOT PHGV -
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(Don’t get me started on that one with DVLA ) & taxed for the last 2 years at £345 ish

Mines 4000kgs and down as HGV motorcaravan....last tax was £165

 

[Nesting Zombie]

Mines 4000kgs and down as HGV motorcaravan....last tax was £165

It’s all Bonkers isn’t it Drover !

 

[Drover]

It’s all Bonkers isn’t it Drover !

Certainly is...I have a chausson suite relax not a heavy goods vehicle...
Just found out though some emission zones give entry free with a blue badge instead of £100 or so
(It was too hot to do anything this afternoon @ 38c) so had my head in the phone.
I'll look into that in a few weeks when we are back from Cambodia

 

[Fisherman]

Coming in April there's a large supplement for cars with a list price over £40000 which applies in years 2 to 5. Something like an additional £400 each year, so around £1600 extra in total.
I can't think of any motorhome or campervan which would retail under that figure so am I right in assuming owners of any vehicles registered from 2021 onwards will drop for this
Ours is a 22 reg so I'll be taxing it in March to miss the April hike;

It’s actually for five years after first year normal rate. It’s an additional luxury rate of £410 in addition to normal rate adding up to £2050. But it does not apply to motorhomes or camper vans and it’s not retrospective. This was brought in in 2017 by the tories, one of the most unjust taxes I have ever known. The big change in April will affect EVs which will also become liable for this tax. Normal rates should increase by around rate of inflation.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Certainly is...I have a chausson suite relax not a heavy goods vehicle...
Just found out though some emission zones give entry free with a blue badge instead of £100 or so
(It was too hot to do anything this afternoon @ 38c) so had my head in the phone.
I'll look into that in a few weeks when we are back from Cambodia

If you apply to Scotland the whole country is free with a BB.

 

[BOTCANU]

Nothing makes sense , even the emissions mumbo jumbo. I can take my 1970 Triumph Herald convertible (tax and MOT exempt) into Bristol for free but my euro 6 Kia Venga £9 a day .

 

[wildebus]

It’s actually for five years after first year normal rate. It’s an additional luxury rate of £410 in addition to normal rate adding up to £2050. But it does not apply to motorhomes or camper vans and it’s not retrospective. This was brought in in 2017 by the tories, one of the most unjust taxes I have ever known. The big change in April will affect EVs which will also become liable for this tax. Normal rates should increase by around rate of inflation.

I think there was a short window of time where Motorhomes were included in this and some unfortunate buggers were stuck with 5 years of higher road tax. I can't remember the details but it got recinded, but again was not restrospectively recinded for those vehicles that were registered while still in force, so those owners had to suck it up.

Vehicle tax rates

Tables showing the rates for vehicle tax for different types of vehicle.

www.gov.uk

Vehicles with a list price of more than £40,000​

You have to pay an extra £410 a year if you have a car or motorhome with a ‘list price’ of more than £40,000. You do not have to pay this if you have a zero emission vehicle.​

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The list price is the published price of the vehicle before it’s registered for the first time. It’s the price before any discounts are applied.​

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You only have to pay this rate for 5 years (from the second time the vehicle is taxed).​

Not relevant now for those vans anymore anyway of course.

 

[Fisherman]

I think there was a short window of time where Motorhomes were included in this and some unfortunate buggers were stuck with 5 years of higher road tax. I can't remember the details but it got recinded, but again was not restrospectively recinded for those vehicles that were registered while still in force, so those owners had to suck it up.

Vehicle tax rates

Tables showing the rates for vehicle tax for different types of vehicle.

www.gov.uk

Vehicles with a list price of more than £40,000​

You have to pay an extra £410 a year if you have a car or motorhome with a ‘list price’ of more than £40,000. You do not have to pay this if you have a zero emission vehicle.​

​

The list price is the published price of the vehicle before it’s registered for the first time. It’s the price before any discounts are applied.​

​

You only have to pay this rate for 5 years (from the second time the vehicle is taxed).​

Not relevant now for those vans anymore anyway of course.

No what happened David was they were landed with a bill of around £2500 when they bought their vans. But after pressure from the industry ended it. But those who paid never received a refund.

Also I erred the £410 supplement is paid from day one, but included in the price of the car you buy. It’s a disgraceful tax that should be abolished. I almost bought a car with a list price of £39,995 which by £5 was exempt from this draconian tax. If the car had a listed price of £40,001 it would incur the luxury levy tax.

 

[GeoffL]

Hi ya number14,

my last 3 Livaboard homes have all been PHGV (5000kg) & each was taxed at around the £180 mark up to 2023.
My current Livaboard vehicle is 4000kg, NOT PHGV -
View attachment 140393
(Don’t get me started on that one with DVLA ) & taxed for the last 2 years at £345 ish

That sounds like "DVLA making it up as they go" BS to me -- similar to the 'van with windows' fiasco. My van (2001 Ducato Maxi based) was originally registered as a PHGV but I found to my horror that the previous owner had downplated it and it was PLG on the V5. The dealer got SVTech to issue a certificate to restore it to the 3850kg original MAM and DVLA issued the new V5 as "PHGV" without issues.