my blooming leaking roof, STILL

Standing water is a bugger and no matter what you do it is probably going to get in if it's standing around after the shower of rain.

I'd maybe tie a tarpaulin over the top to keep it dry and then see if you can repair the structure problem from the inside, perhaps by taking off panels internally, jack up the roof a little to stop ponding and try to fit new wooden members. make sure the timber you use is "treated" so it will have some resistance to water ingress.

It may be a tricky process and this suggestion may complete rubbish depending on how your sandwich construction works, but tackling the problem from the inside may enable you to keep the outer skin largely intact and the weather largely out while you tackle the root of the problem.
 
Firefox said:
Standing water is a bugger and no matter what you do it is probably going to get in if it's standing around after the shower of rain.

I'd maybe tie a tarpaulin over the top to keep it dry and then see if you can repair the structure problem from the inside, perhaps by taking off panels internally, jack up the roof a little to stop ponding and try to fit new wooden members. make sure the timber you use is "treated" so it will have some resistance to water ingress.

It may be a tricky process and this suggestion may complete rubbish depending on how your sandwich construction works, but tackling the problem from the inside may enable you to keep the outer skin largely intact and the weather largely out while you tackle the root of the problem.
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Hi Firefox

this is great advice, thank you, i think your right to tackle the problem inside first.

many thanks

Jenny
 
No problem. Hope it works out for you. It also gives the chance to replace the insulation etc if it had got a bit manky with the damp. Even if you don't fit the timber, you can always do a lot a lot of the prep work and bring a carpenter in at the last stage.

I tend to work up to the level of my incompetence. Doing things until it becomes too much to handle. I'm not very good at welding for example. And I'm dreading cutting holes in my van roof, but that's another story!
 
that is brilliant stuff! I used it on my little boat and it found and cured the cracks between the cabin and deck. You might also want to google the rot doctor for his take on fixing rotten wood (inside framework of your over cab comes to mind), I used that stuff too on the transom, fixed and secure enough to hang an old outboard motor on it!
Good luck
Nichodi
 
kimbowbill said:
Hi

sorry, yes it would help, its an Elddis Monarch 1991, H plate, the main problem seems to be round where the flat bit meets the part where the overhead cab is, it already had some flashing round the joints, i replaced that, the vent is also leaking, i have sealed that, i have then put a fibre glass based paint on (forgot the name) its used by councils on flat roofs, that seemed to work for a while but the problem is, the wood inside has rotted and the roof is bowing, so any amount of rain the water puddles and starts to seap in, i cant understand how because this paint is supposed to be totally waterproof and is flexible, i cant seem to load pics up on here but i could take some and email to anyone that may be able to help, i think the issues lies around the joints, i dont know if it is all one peice or the cab part is seperate from the flat roof part, if you know what i mean,

J
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I would start fom the inside, no easy fix for this. you need to replace the rotten wood to stop the bowing. If you drive the van regularly flex will occur & break the seal. These roofs are built light, adding anything (weight) to them will just shift the problem elsewhere on the structure. If it has already had some flashing put on, previous owners may have sold it because of this reason..ad infinitum. If you want some more advice on this pm me, I'm in Sheffield.

Good luck with it, & don't let it put you off.

dogseal.
 
The luton cab on my van ( 1993 swift royal ) was ROTTEN and rain was dripping from the underside of the overhang above the cab !
what i would do now in your position is to go to a builders merchant or b&q and get some 'flashband' , it comes in various widths an can be overlapped .
You will need a dry day and something to warm it with , like a hairdrier or gas blowtorch ( but dont overheat it ! ). Cover the area and dont worry what it looks like as it is only a temp. repair till the weather gets better .........next year.
tubes of silicone etc will be a waste of time...trust me ! . .
The alluminium strip running across the width of the van needs to be screwed into solid wood with w4 mastic tape between the trim and the roof surface .........without solid wood to screw into any repairs are doomed to fail.. Rip out all the rotten ceiling boards , insulation etc from the inside to uncover the remains of the wooden framework which supports the roof. Any handyman/woman will be able to rebuilt the framework from the inside by using new timber and 'gripfill' or some other gap filling adhesive. replace the insulation with expanded polystyreen ( from wikes) . I couldnt get any decorative wallboards so just got some 4mm ply and painted it ....it looks ok.
i thought the task was complete but still found it was damp. I thought the luton window was leaking and tried to re seal it several times ......it turned out that the aluminium just above the window was 'pin holed' .
Dont be scared to have a go , it isnt that dificult or expensive , just time consuming , awkward and a bit messy. if you can make a victoria sponge you should be able to manage it ! ...........good luck ........chef
 
kimbowbill said:
i'm at a complete loss now, my roof keeps leaking, i think it really needs a new one, any advice, where can get the info from to do it myself, bearing in mind i am female, not that my sexuality has anythjing to do with it but ripping roofs of campers is not my specialtiy, victoria sponge cakes, oxtail stew and dumplings is more my barrell but i'm willing to learn, i do have fingernails but not scared of breaking em, i'l just put some new ones on, my eye lashes flutter but i can leave of the make up, put on some overalls and do the job,

many thanks
Jenny
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Hi Jenny
Cannot help with your problem. BUT !! Maybe a useful tip. Go to a body or coach work place on the PRETEXT that you want the repair done for leakage. Get them to give you an estimate of exactly where the leaks are and cost. Now you will know exactly where the leaks are. You may at the same time get a general idea how they would be doing the job.
Tell them you will think about it and don't show your face again. Going away with the knowledge you can then get back to the boys on this site , who will then be able to advice you and give you tips. Hope this helps.
 
David & Ann said:
Hi Jenny
Cannot help with your problem. BUT !! Maybe a useful tip. Go to a body or coach work place on the PRETEXT that you want the repair done for leakage. Get them to give you an estimate of exactly where the leaks are and cost. Now you will know exactly where the leaks are. You may at the same time get a general idea how they would be doing the job.
Tell them you will think about it and don't show your face again. Going away with the knowledge you can then get back to the boys on this site , who will then be able to advice you and give you tips. Hope this helps.
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It is exactly this sort of behaviour, which has led to a lot of bodyshops charging for estimates deducted from the bill when work is carried out.

Channa
 
I Think i would be inclined to take the m/home somewhere and let them do it,saves a lot of aggrevation and messing about and hopefully the job is then done.Could be false economy to make a mess of it yourself or think you have sorted your problem only then to find out its still leaking after pounds have been spent.
 
channa said:
Then why mention your gender ?

First part of your comment suggests the weaker sex then you go on to remind us that sexuality has nowt to do with it.

Not a case of female when it suits then ?

Channa
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Being one of the old school [ born 1949] before all this equality rubbish.:confused:
I think you are totally out of order Channa..
I'm disabled and have never been on the roof of our Hymer, the wife does it everytime to get to, fill and empty topbox....................
She's definitely not one of the weaker sex, but it's horses for courses, I can bleed a diesel system, service the engine, even bring back a Bedford TK from Denmark on 5 cylinders, when an injector pipe broke without leaving a slick for MoCyclists to fall off on .....................

She can't but would have a go, same as Kim is doing...

So stop being such a Twat ...
The Girl has asked for help, if I knew what the prob was I'd help, same as I'd help you, if you asked !!!..........
 
Afternoon my man good to hear from you old boy!
Your not one of these people who constantly tell people your age are you:D:D;)
 
coolasluck said:
Afternoon my man good to hear from you old boy!
Your not one of these people who constantly tell people your age are you:D:D;)
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Eff orffff :D
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Chrissy said:
I like to save money where I can - I found this same thing @ £4.30 inc p&p on ebay

Capt Tolley's Creeping crack cure on eBay (end time 07-Dec-09 14:45:59 GMT)
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no... i'm going to refrain from askin what you used it on :eek::eek::eek:


:D


regards;)
aj


you can show me in a couple of weeks time :eek:


toff said:
Being one of the old school [ born 1949] before all this equality rubbish.:confused:
I think you are totally out of order Channa..
I'm disabled and have never been on the roof of our Hymer, the wife does it everytime to get to, fill and empty topbox....................
She's definitely not one of the weaker sex, but it's horses for courses, I can bleed a diesel system, service the engine, even bring back a Bedford TK from Denmark on 5 cylinders, when an injector pipe broke without leaving a slick for MoCyclists to fall off on .....................

She can't but would have a go, same as Kim is doing...

So stop being such a Twat ...
The Girl has asked for help, if I knew what the prob was I'd help, same as I'd help you, if you asked !!!..........
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.. we live in hope and expectation toff.. but don't hold yer breath :rolleyes:


btw.. did you ever get up to the lether'n bottle in wednesbury :confused::confused:
 
dogseal said:
I would start fom the inside, no easy fix for this. you need to replace the rotten wood to stop the bowing. If you drive the van regularly flex will occur & break the seal. These roofs are built light, adding anything (weight) to them will just shift the problem elsewhere on the structure. If it has already had some flashing put on, previous owners may have sold it because of this reason..ad infinitum. If you want some more advice on this pm me, I'm in Sheffield.

Good luck with it, & don't let it put you off.

dogseal.
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thanks dogseal, i have pm'd you
 
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