Motorhome or Caravan - which would be easier to find sites with 4 dogs on board?

Many thanks to everyone - Much appreciated

I think I will go for motorhome. I think I will feel more confident than straight into a 5th wheeler as new to all this. If I love it (kindasuspectIwill) I'll copy VWalan. I really like the seperability of the truck and living quarters.

Just looking on line at Munich campers etc and they seem to be very expensive (as is Ireland) as opposed to UK. Will be in Munich at end of the month so will have a closer look. Say I have E10,000 to spend (aprox £8K) what should I be looking for? - is milage more nb than age? is 10 years old, old? Sorry, I'm asking for more info now but if you're fairly experienced, it may be a straightforward answer for you. I ended up in the early hours online looking at second hand horse transporters with living quarters.

Enjoy the rest of the summer!
Rosetube.

I thought I'd have to dump the idea a few days ago when I saw that dogs are not readily accepted (especially 4) on camp sites and as one of you mentione you pay by the tail so it would also be very expensive per night. But thanks to you lot my little heart is singing again!!!:heart:
 
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my experiance is horse boxes and motocross trucke etc are built with a purpose in mind . that isnt a motoir home . its a stable or garage with living area . the living is secondary . very often its far better to build your own .
i can say this is a nice truck MAN live in motorhome 7.5 tonne HGV commercial sleeper cab long distance build | eBay its actually my neighbours . built to high standard and i would have no probs going off to maroc in this one .
 
vwalan said:
i can say this is a nice truck MAN live in motorhome 7.5 tonne HGV commercial sleeper cab long distance build | eBay its actually my neighbours . built to high standard and i would have no probs going off to maroc in this one .
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That's some machine! Very interesting and very high spec. I really like the insulation. Can see the great potential with this but it kind of scares me as its so big. I really liked the 5th wheelies too but again same issue. Its a boys toy - but my camping mind is evolving rapidly so I'll rule nothing out. Concerns I would have are: 7.5 tonne = very heavy on juice?, 400,000+ miles - I know its a big engine but is that not high?, HGV and length create probs camping? Would need to get HGV licence.

You know what I'll have to commission you to source my ideal vehicle....:D
 
rosetube said:
I think I will go for motorhome. I think I will feel more confident than straight into a 5th wheeler as new to all this. If I love it (kindasuspectIwill) I'll copy VWalan. I really like the seperability of the truck and living quarters.

Just looking on line at Munich campers etc and they seem to be very expensive (as is Ireland) as opposed to UK. Will be in Munich at end of the month so will have a closer look. Say I have E10,000 to spend (aprox £8K) what should I be looking for? - is milage more nb than age? is 10 years old, old? Sorry, I'm asking for more info now but if you're fairly experienced, it may be a straightforward answer for you. I ended up in the early hours online looking at second hand horse transporters with living quarters.

Enjoy the rest of the summer!
Rosetube.

I thought I'd have to dump the idea a few days ago when I saw that dogs are not readily accepted (especially 4) on camp sites and as one of you mentione you pay by the tail so it would also be very expensive per night. But thanks to you lot my little heart is singing again!!!:heart:
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Are used MH's really that much more in Germany? I guess you've tried mobile.de.
I think if your preference is for a conversion on a panel van, there may be more options in Germany.
 
vwalan said:
my experiance is horse boxes and motocross trucke etc are built with a purpose in mind . that isnt a motoir home . its a stable or garage with living area . the living is secondary . very often its far better to build your own .
i can say this is a nice truck MAN live in motorhome 7.5 tonne HGV commercial sleeper cab long distance build | eBay its actually my neighbours . built to high standard and i would have no probs going off to maroc in this one .
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What a fantastic bit of kit that is. If I was looking for something this big I'd certainly go down this route in favour of some of those huge MH's that are based on light commercials.
 
mark61 said:
Are used MH's really that much more in Germany? I guess you've tried mobile.de.
I think if your preference is for a conversion on a panel van, there may be more options in Germany.
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Hi, actually I hadn't tried mobile.de so thank you for that. :D
 
upto 7.5 ton drive on a pre 97 car licence .you should havec1+e on your licence. 400,000its km. i think . but its nothing they do million miles . about 17-18 mpg . as for size think you will find bm,s m,home is bigger than that man. only just a bit shorter than my artic. mpg gets cancelled by what you can carry .or not having to keep going shopping . plus you can carry a m,bike for those ride arounds . plus you have spare fuel tanks for filling up where its cheap.
 
I run a lwb Iveco daily self build, with 4 dogs and swmbo on board no probs, we used to have caravans for more years than I want to admit to, and they are great, however with 4 dogs the ease with which you can camp in a motorhome makes that our first choice now, however I keep looking at 5th wheelers....
 
vwalan; as for size think you will find bm said:
Thanks for info. Its very tempting.:tongue:..I checked my licence here in Ireland (EU one - I presume its the same as yours in UK) and I get normal B class which is up to 3,500 kg and E+ B category which depicts a car and trailor. Apart from motorbike and tractor that's it, so I doubt I'm covered. Might check in motor tax office tomorrow,

Sorry I don't know the lingo so what is bm,s m, ?
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someone had a good buy .that ldv one i mentioned on ebay went for 5300 complete . had to be a good one.
i found iveco vans arent quiye long enough to make a good bed across the back and unless you have a 6.5 ton cant have a m,bike in the back as the pay loads are restrictive. far better to have a 6.5 ton chassis cab and a box . just that bit wider and a box is easier to kit out.
when did you pass your test . if before 97 you might have c1+e .but i dont know about irish licences
 
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baldybloke said:
I run a lwb Iveco daily self build, with 4 dogs and swmbo on board no probs, we used to have caravans for more years than I want to admit to, and they are great, however with 4 dogs the ease with which you can camp in a motorhome makes that our first choice now, however I keep looking at 5th wheelers....
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Thanks for input. Nice to know there are other 4 dog travellers out there.:ditto: Do you find campsites strict on the dogs/ charges - any discount for quantity? Any advice?
I keep being drawn to the 5th wheelers too.
 
well having had vw campers all my life and towing caravans several times .the move to the mini artic 12 years ago was the best move .
find no problems wilding and have never been one to use campsites ,but when i have havent been turned away.
i still have a vw here and a bongo and a teardrop caravan .all have their uses .
for long terming the truck is far superiour.
but dont go huge .
many m,homes are the same size as mine .many are bigger . it works for me .
classed as car and caravan on ferries so get the cheap crossing price. stay under 11mtrs .
 
must admit I avoid campsites, we prefer to wild camp or occasionly use CL's (certificated locations, fields etc approved by the camping club or caravan club etc, these are not supposed to have more than 5 outfits on at any time, and normally only supply water and waste disposal) as long as you keep the dogs under control they generally do not have a problem with dogs, and the prices are normally reasonable, though they have to cover there overheads to supply the facility
 
motorhme

done the caravan for years ,,site fees are going nuts £25 on avarage ,,,,a 5 mtr camper beets it hands down ,,,in scotland you can stop almost anywhere,,,,
 
vwalan said:
hi .get the right outfit and you can have a runaround as well . there as been some cheapish 5ers on ebay . and recently a very cheap mini artic set up . needed a bit of work but motor home demountable articulated fifth wheel camper iveco pickup when apart. | eBay
last i knew wasnt sold . have a tel number if you are interested . but they do come up sometimes .
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Hi VWalan,
Would you mind giving me that tel no? Would like to make enquiries.

(HGV is out for me due to mad road tax here - would be E1200/yr - based on weight, vehicle registration tax which is once off would be almost E2,000 - actually possibly more as Revenue decide what is open market value is and you can't estimate it - 13.5%, insurance mad price too and also need to get special HGV licence here. I have my general licence since 1988 but no system like UK re getting HGV on older general licence. Hmmm. just wondering if I could update my driving licence in UK and therefore avail of HGV???... We have low'ish income tax here but highest indirect taxes in Europe apparently).

Thanks very much.
 
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hi my number is 07971962361 .
here a private hgv road tax is cheaper than a vehicle under 3,500kg . 165 quid a year. also you can drive a rigid up to 7,500kg on a car licence if you passed before 97.
you maybe able to exchange your licence here and get upto 7,5ton c1+e .i know afew spanish have . you will need an address here though.
 
vwalan said:
hi my number is 07971962361 .
here a private hgv road tax is cheaper than a vehicle under 3,500kg . 165 quid a year. also you can drive a rigid up to 7,500kg on a car licence if you passed before 97.
you maybe able to exchange your licence here and get upto 7,5ton c1+e .i know afew spanish have . you will need an address here though.
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That's very decent of you. Left voicemanil. Just let me know what time is good to ring. Thanks.
 
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