moderation poll

[dave docwra]

I believe that no member should be banned, but any member that causes you offence should simply be ignored..

Dave.

 

[Deleted member 21686]

YES absolutely,these people do not contribute anything towards the forum and are merely and cowardly in my opinion,mouthing off to give themselves an egotistic,chest beating bigoted,bullying display. Get rid and let us all have more meaningful discussions without them.

I don't fully agree with you on this.
Some of the guys we are talking about do contribute and are intelligent individuals and can be very helpful but unfortunately they spoil it for themselves and become agressive. it has to be calmed down or we will keep losing members.

 

[noody]

No offence ment, I'm just fed up with all the bickering and negativaty just latley on here.

John.

I don't think anyone who makes that comment means to offend John, it just does and it is a regular though and you just reminded me (Because I had forgotten) why I spread myself thinly on this forum some time ago. Lot's of arguing and bickering yet the forum is a fantastic resource for everyone.

The problems with text-communication is that a large part of our communicating skills are hidden so you don't see facial interactions. The DISLIKE comment I made was a perfect example that could have started a row.

You didn't mean to offend and I didn't mean to sound offended yet neither of those parts of the conversation came through. A shrug of the shoulders, a facial-expression, eye-brows, a wink. Conveying stuff on a forum via text alone is a skill in itself and whilst most of us do have people skills we don't have this skill when communicating via text alone.

 

[Devadvo]

Some of us spend our Teen years, even our twenties, with the mindset of 'I know that already'.... 'I am always right' ... 'It is only my opinion that is of worth'.....'Everyone else is an ar****le apart from me'

Some of us become a little more humble and less pretentious in later years, and realise that in reality, we did not know anywhere near as much as we thought we knew, and we were hardly ever right.

And in the grand scheme of things our opinion is of zero worth.

Oh, and the fact that maybe it was not everyone else that were the ar****les after all.

Some of us do not become humble and less pretentious.

Some of us think we are on a pedestal looking down. The problem with that is, pedestals can get so high, it becomes difficult to see what is actually going on way down on the ground.

Some of us, such as myself, just talk bo***cks.

Im sure this forum is secure enough to handle all types of personae with ease.

 

[locksmith]

Had not noticed

I had not noticed a problem here in the open forums, I come on here once or twice a week usually looking for information in the archives and sometimes look at the odd thread if the heading takes my attention.
I have been on here more than ever the last two day's to watch the fight. Lol.

Good luck Phil:goodluck:

 

[mark61]

I don't fully agree with you on this.
Some of the guys we are talking about do contribute and are intelligent individuals and can be very helpful but unfortunately they spoil it for themselves and become agressive. it has to be calmed down or we will keep losing members.

Exactly, and here we are discussing if these intelligent helpful people should be banned for perhaps getting a little aggressive at times, the truth is I have seen far more aggressive post from the people having a go at them, the "peace keepers" as it were. Shall we ban the "peace keepers" too?

Banning is a backwards step.

 

[georgert1]

Abuse etc

I think that one warning,,,,, followed by a second warning and their account temporarily suspended for a time,,, , say around one month, then if it persists kick them off this Fun & Friendly !! Motorhome Community. and bloody good riddance.

 

[maingate]

You are counting???

That's sad!!!

Oi ... stop picking on my mate.

He has only just learned to count and needs the practice. (no smiley as you are offended by them).

 

[Smaug]

YES absolutely,these people do not contribute anything towards the forum and are merely and cowardly in my opinion,mouthing off to give themselves an egotistic,chest beating bigoted,bullying display. Get rid and let us all have more meaningful discussions without them.

Well, I wasn't going to vote cos the majority view is overwhelming, but I have read the whole thread & yours is the first post to prompt a response other than the odd "likes".

I understand that those with very low post numbers may be worried about a possible sharp response to a post & may lack confidence, but they also need to realise that not posting is actually also not contributing!

Sorry to "have a go at you" like this, but many of the more argumentative posters do add value to the forum. They have valid viewpoints - even if they may present them rather too forcefully. They are often well educated & experienced. banning them may well lose the forum some of its value, just so that those who read & seldom post are less often offended. However, it is sad that they just do not seem to know when to back off a little & agree to disagree rather than moving in with battle tanks & carpet bombing.

I am now going to vote against banning. If the "majority" were always right we would still be Buying & selling slaves & hanging people (& not always the guilty people).

 

[bopper]

I would like to make a contribution here!

Firstly may I say that I have posted on this forum many times. I am a full member. If you care to look you will see that I have offered technical advice many times.
I have also tried to make people laugh on here and I have also offered suggestions and comments.
Many who have commented on this post are complete strangers to me, why have they not contributed before? Why are they not ALL full members.

I have to agree with JOHN LEE on many of his points of view: There is indeed a few, and I have commented on this before, who follow the leader for point scoring.
I once suggested entertainment for a "meet" and I mentioned a Karaoke...... Bloody hell, I got shot at and felt I had used a profanity on the site. Yet a recent meet was felt a good night when everyone joined in singing round the campfire... what the hell is that but Karaoke!
I once made, and may I say a very funny contribution to a post and it was taken off, and yet one group turn everything into double meaning and blatant sexual comments and get away with it.
Why do I mention this?
Because having a vote on such a decisive thing as banning people on here will be like the culling of the French aristocracy, the fraternity who think "Oh you are funny" with your smutty drivel that is posted on here will be just the same as the ones who knitted whilst the victims where guillotined.
Making this as brief as possible I will make these comments:
Phil does a good job (When he is not listening to the playground characters). But he should not be doing this on his own.
A group of moderators should be carefully chosen. These moderators should decide action on a member and present their case to Phil who should then decide and act on a stringent set of rules. These rules should ONLY be ones of comments that offend PUBLIC decency not just personal comments and especially not just some "Chosen ones" amongst us.
My advice would be.
Non member = No vote, no say.
If you don't like what you are reading. Don't read on... nobody is making you!
Use the specially created part of the forum to rant and rave!
Do not stifle what we have left of free speech.

I for one will tender my resignation if a ban is imposed on a contributor without PROPER consultation.

 

[ksb]

Abusive behaviour

One warning then out ]I am currently away at the July members meet and have another inbox full of complaints.

I have a passive approach to moderation of this website and try to be tolerant.
People can have bad days or too much alcohol and make mistakes. So it is a shame to ban people unless they are repeat offenders.
Currently we have a problem with some members fighting and bickering on the site, this does damage this website and it does make people not want to visit or post.

I do not want the actions of a few to ruin it for the others.

The poll is private so no one will know which way you have voted.

So here is a poll question....

Should the admin ban the members that keep starting arguments or abusing other members?[/QUOTE]

 

[Byronic]

You are counting???

That's sad!!!

Of course I am, my level of "self esteem" depends on it. Mind you plenty on this site don't understand the meaning of the words levity and particularly brevity. Some of the long screeds...... does anybody actually have the time to read them?

Anyway here's hoping I get a few more likes. C'mon maingate.

 

[tenaciousdandy]

I am a member of my football team forum and they use a warn bar, if people report someone and it is just then there warn bar will increase until it is full then they are banned accordingly depending on there actions it lets people know that they are close to a ban and need to behave themself.

 

[bonviveur]

Forum Abuse

I cannot believe that any intelligent, right minded person would consider you damned Phil if you banned people from the site for abuse - and the current state of the poll would, I suggest, vindicate my view. It saddens me to read the low level comments that pepper other forums throughout the web and I live in hope that the Wild Camping Forums will not suffer likewise from this cancer-like behaviour as, without treatment, they eventually self destruct.

May I suggest that any person being considered for sanctions be, as already suggested, given a private warning that a repeat of such behaviour will result in a ban and that, on being banned, their details will be published on the Forum.

Happy, peaceful and enjoyable lives to all fellow Motorhomers

Bon Viveur

 

[maingate]

Of course I am, my level of "self esteem" depends on it. Mind you plenty on this site don't understand the meaning of the words levity and particularly brevity. Some of the long screeds...... does anybody actually have the time to read them?

Anyway here's hoping I get a few more likes. C'mon maingate.

No ..... you can have too much of a good thing. :idea:

Now go and practise your joined up writing.

ps, my 'likes' for your idea are still coming in. :lol-049:

 

[Bongo]

My response to the poll is neither yes or no...so I have not completed the poll.

I think a good alternative would be for the members to democratically ban such 'offensive' members, by weight of opinion/votes.

I would suggest that if, say, twenty (20) members - or whatever number is deemed suitable - want a poster banned, they could tick an appropriate box in the message, next to the 'report post' icon. This would alleviate the need for a moderator's intervention and would truly be the democratic way to sort things out for the betterment of us all.

 

[Byronic]

No ..... you can have too much of a good thing. :idea:

Now go and practise your joined up writing.

ps, my 'likes' for your idea are still coming in. :lol-049:

They must be worth say a quid each. I'll be quite happy if you pay my Full Membership Subscription with the proceeds. Only then may I acquire the self esteem that will release me from the compulsion to accrue "likes". Over to you maingate!

 

[bopper]

My response to the poll is neither yes or no...so I have not completed the poll.

I think a good alternative would be for the members to democratically ban such 'offensive' members, by weight of opinion/votes.

I would suggest that if, say, twenty (20) members - or whatever number is deemed suitable - want a poster banned, they could tick an appropriate box in the message, next to the 'report post' icon. This would alleviate the need for a moderator's intervention and would truly be the democratic way to sort things out for the betterment of us all.

Won't work! There are posters who will instantly agree with what they want because they follow like sheep!

 

[Byronic]

Edit ....."too" busy.

 

[christine]

As I don't read all posts on here I am not actually aware of what has been said but if someone is causing unrest, get rid.