moderation poll

Should Phil ban the members that keep starting arguments or abusing other members?

  • Yes

    Votes: 288 91.4%
  • No

    Votes: 27 8.6%

  • Total voters
    315
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There's really only one person making a total pratt of themselves, he seems to entertain a few other reasonably normal members so why ban him? Everyone has the option to ignore the moron, personally I don't because I continue to be amazed by the drivel that comes from him....

But I did vote Yes...
 
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suspension for 2 month would allow tempers to cool

:hammer: if their is recurence then pull the plug on them permanently
John
 
thomasplc

I have thought about becoming full member but some of the threads have such infantile comments , obvious intention to wind people up, that I have held back.
Depending on outcome I hope to join up in near future
 
There's really only one person making a total pratt of themselves, he seems to entertain a few other reasonably normal members so why ban him? Everyone has the option to ignore the moron, personally I don't because I continue to be amazed by the drivel that comes from him....

And that of course is the kind of post that shows you to be as rude, pig ignorant and unintelligent as anyone on here! Just because you don't like someone's views doesn't make them a moron, and there's a damn good chance that he's a lot brighter then you!
 
Members with too much to say.

I am currently away at the July members meet and have another inbox full of complaints.

I have a passive approach to moderation of this website and try to be tolerant.
People can have bad days or too much alcohol and make mistakes. So it is a shame to ban people unless they are repeat offenders.
Currently we have a problem with some members fighting and bickering on the site, this does damage this website and it does make people not want to visit or post.

I do not want the actions of a few to ruin it for the others.

The poll is private so no one will know which way you have voted.

So here is a poll question....

Should the admin ban the members that keep starting arguments or abusing other members?

Seems to me that the site would be a better place without them, but then we are all supposed to be a bit more tollerant, aren't we? So how about "Three strikes and your'e out"?
 
And that of course is the kind of post that shows you to be as rude, pig ignorant and unintelligent as anyone on here! Just because you don't like someone's views doesn't make them a moron, and there's a damn good chance that he's a lot brighter then you!

ROFLMAO

I assume that you think I was referring to you?
 
Abuse

I am currently away at the July members meet and have another inbox full of complaints.

I have a passive approach to moderation of this website and try to be tolerant.
People can have bad days or too much alcohol and make mistakes. So it is a shame to ban people unless they are repeat offenders.
Currently we have a problem with some members fighting and bickering on the site, this does damage this website and it does make people not want to visit or post.

I do not want the actions of a few to ruin it for the others.

The poll is private so no one will know which way you have voted.

So here is a poll question....

Should the admin ban the members that keep starting arguments or abusing other members?


I think a difference of opinion is fine as this is the basis for debate. What we should not tolerate is abusive remarks and foul language. This is often initiated by someone who does not like to be contradicted or questioned. Perhaps a warning and then remove them.
 
I agree that a warning first would be best but ultimately you need to ban persistent offenders.
 
To ban or not to ban

Any abuse should not be tolerated at any cost..
A warning should be given and if the abuse continues ban them.
Regards,
Bob
 
Hi Phil and members,

I think that Phil does a magnificent job and must have the patience of a saint with those who constantly cause problems for ? reasons.

I am a member of a few other forums and they to have similar problems every so often and warnings are given and bans imposed when necessary.

However this must be the only site where it is run (or so it appears) by the founder alone. The others have a number of moderator's 'mods' who share the job 24-7.
So with that amount of cover the problem people don't really have the time to get too out of hand. Plus the 'stress' is shared.

It's Phil's site and he runs it very well in my opinion.

To those who like to 'play' at wind up, I think you should be given your marching orders sharpish.
Remember, you may think your being clever, but it's obvious to others what you are doing cos it's exactly the same but different every time. Think about it, being clever? I personally think its being sly and all the explanatory waffle is so obvious and fools no one at all. It's just taking advantage of the way the site is run.

To those who make an error or even two for 'what ever' reason then a quiet word is usually all that's needed. As again it's usually so obvious when it's a mistake rather than being deliberate.

Just my opinion of course and as a forum member I'm happy for the mods to take whatever action they deem fit!


Cheers all


Boots
 
It takes two

I am currently away at the July members meet and have another inbox full of complaints.

I have a passive approach to moderation of this website and try to be tolerant.
People can have bad days or too much alcohol and make mistakes. So it is a shame to ban people unless they are repeat offenders.
Currently we have a problem with some members fighting and bickering on the site, this does damage this website and it does make people not want to visit or post.

I do not want the actions of a few to ruin it for the others.

The poll is private so no one will know which way you have voted.

So here is a poll question....

Should the admin ban the members that keep starting arguments or abusing other members?

It takes at least two to have an argument, and it is not compulsory to join in.
 
get them out

the site has changed over the past year and
some of the juvenile argumentitive comments are not what i am here for
and not anything to do with motorhomes/campervans its getting to personal
 
if it would get you thrown out of the pub then it should get you thrown out of the forum. By the same token, if you want to have a slanging match or healthy debate one to one then do it outside the forum or set up your own yahoo group! It is out of place on a public forum with clear rules. Well done Phil.
 
the position poll voting botton is not easly regognised

it needs to be highlighted somewhat i have no idea how
 
first a warning........

Then perhaps a two week cooling down period and if the protagonists continue baiting and arguing with each other ban both parties??
 
Yes you can have a forum where people can express their views on subjects which may become heated. Yes you can ignore these people or choose not to read further once it gets out of hand. But not only does that only suit the minority but it deters others from enjoying the forum (existing, free and undoubtedly prospective members).

Personally I wouldn't care if this forum was restricted to Wild Camping, no general chat, no games, no jokes. Just Wild Camping. I know it wouldn't prevent arguments but I'm sure it would cut them down considerably. Perhaps then the protagonists would seek other venues to air their arguments.
 
Banning abusers

Forums such as this should be used to share information not for personal comments. Everyone takes a different view of wild camping etc and members should accept other peoples opinions. Surely a website such as this should tolerate individuals. If people cannot be civil they should be banned!
 
Northerner - You seem angry, which makes me wonder if you feel this vote is targeted at you. Here are my views on your earlier post, at the risk of being on the receiving end of your ire...

The things you complain about: people writing about "a pillock doing a silly dance", saying "I'm not going to be bullied on to camp sites owned by some fat councillor" and "the Olympics of being mired in extortion and corruption" are simply their points of view, sometimes silly, sometimes funny - and we all know that people's sense of humour varies widely. Saying the second comment ("fat councillor") was "insulting, untrue and probably libellous" is as daft as the original comment - an individual being insulted and defamed would have to be named. You don't have to rise to argument about comments that irritate you - you could rise above things you think are ridiculous. I don't think anyone described a "lollipop lady with fifty years of service whose chance to carry the Olympic torch is a dream come true" as "a 'twat mincing down the road'" - you're conflating. In my world, saying people have "the IQ of a goldfish" might be funny, but saying they're "nasty idiots" is a step too far.

We all get heated about things we care about and sometimes we don't make sense, but you are experienced and knowledgeable so you must know that everyone thinks and feels differently, everyone has a completely unqiue experience of life. You know things I don't and I know things you don't. I would hope this forum at least helps us to learn from how other people think - and especially helps us support each other in the things we share, which I thought was wild camping.

Forums like this operate well with a kind of public Chatham House rule, where we can feel free to express ourselves, be true to how we feel, and get to say things that might not stand up in court. The limit on that freedom in this kind of forum (which isn't a perfectly free arena) is to reflect before reacting, try to see the funny side, try not to care too much.

I've just spent a long time reflecting, trying to decide whether to hit 'submit' at all. I've re-read it several times, trying to imagine what people might think about me - perhaps they'd think I'm pontificating, that it's not my place to speak about this, that I'm being superior or know-it-all, or criticizing. Perhaps Northerner thinks I'm another person as "rude, pig ignorant and unintelligent as anyone on here". I know that I'm not trying to offend - and that I'm trying not to offend. But who knows what other people's responses will be? Maybe I'll be banned! The best you/I can do is think carefully, edit out the crass stuff, be clear when I'm joking etc. Here goes...

*ducks, waits for flack*
 
No, didn't you recognise the pronouns 'them' and 'he'.

Main thing I recognised was this line:

"And that of course is the kind of post that shows you to be as rude, pig ignorant and unintelligent as anyone on here!"

Why on Earth do you bother being a member on here? Don't bother replying because I will be looking for the ignore button... cya
 
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