boyo1414
Guest
Huskeys never live in a box,, bouncing about on the back of a camper,,,,,, to inflict that environment on any living creature is appalling.
The issue of exhaust fumes was not fully discussed,,, behind every vehicle there is an area of low pressure caused by the air rushing along the body of the vehicle suddenly having to break away from back of the vehicle. The low pressure sucks in the air from all around, including the exhaust fumes. That poor dog is probably continually breathing exhaust gas.
I'll let you know what the RSPCA say
ianmorgan
Guest
hello wise one
for starters my dog does not LIVE in its dog box.it travels now and again in it.it lives in a 6'x4' dog kennel at home.
as for bouncing about in it the box is firmly attached to MH.so it would not be bouncing anymore than a dog inside a MH.
i await for the rspca with pleasure.
TWS
Guest
IMO, the RSPCA have more important things to deal with than your complaint, which I feel is unjustified, and for what its worth this is bang out of order.
Regards Tom
PS Please feel free to report me to anyone you like.
BedfordMJ
Guest
My Parrot lives in a cage report me.
boyo1414
Guest
yes,yes I realise it doesn't live in the box all the time,,,, it was it's imprisonment in the box I was commenting on ,, as you well know.And as for the dog in the box bouncing the same amount as a dog in the MH,, that is absolutely incorrect. Due to the rear of the van being rearwards or the rear wheels it moves up and down considerably more than
the parts of the van between the wheel-base. Over-hang behind the rear wheel exacerbates the effect. The effect is known as pitching
boyo1414
Guest
The RSPCA deals with cruelty to animals,,,,, let them decide if the subject of my notification is unjustified.
BTW,,, I didn't make a "complaint" but a notification
How is this "bang out of order"? ianmorgan offered his address with the specific intent of it being used to make contact with the RSPCA.
You offer yourself up for reporting but
neglect to offer your address,,, and I haven't received a PM with your address so I guess your offer is completely insincere,,, just like your use of the word "regards"Yours,
with deep anger at mistreatment of animals and resentment at people's defence of such behaviour, Boyo
TWS
Guest
The RSPCA deals with cruelty to animals,,,,, let them decide if the subject of my notification is unjustified.
BTW,,, I didn't make a "complaint" but a notification
How is this "bang out of order"? ianmorgan offered his address with the specific intent of it being used to make contact with the RSPCA.
You offer yourself up for reporting but
Yours,
with deep anger at mistreatment of animals and resentment at people's defence of such behaviour, Boyo
Please feel free to PM for my address Boyo and report me to anyone and for whatever reason that may come into your head, I hardly think transporting a dog in a cage is mistreatment of an animal. I think you are purely doing this to cause trouble, so I for one will not be entering into further correspondence with you over this matter, but as I said please feel free to PM me for my details, IMO you ain't got a clue what you are talking about. This is a Wildcamping forum not a way of getting kicks by causing trouble.
Regards Tom
PS Perhaps you should move on as I smell a rat.
walkers
Guest
I don't like the sight of the dog in the box hanging off the back of the motorhome either, but where is the difference between that and a trailer?
There are trailers designed with the purpose of transporting dogs behind motor vehicles they are lower to the ground so I suppose the dog is at greater risk. If it's a cruelty issue then these trailers would be illegal surely (they pitch and roll too) I wouldn't use either but cannot see how one is more or less cruel than the other. Both prevent the dog being ejected easily in an accident and yes I agree both are at the rear and both have the same risk if a lorry or van backends you but the crate on this motorhome is high up so safer if a car does. My 2 travel inside with us and each have the equivalent of a doggy seat belt.
There are trailers designed with the purpose of transporting dogs behind motor vehicles they are lower to the ground so I suppose the dog is at greater risk. If it's a cruelty issue then these trailers would be illegal surely (they pitch and roll too) I wouldn't use either but cannot see how one is more or less cruel than the other. Both prevent the dog being ejected easily in an accident and yes I agree both are at the rear and both have the same risk if a lorry or van backends you but the crate on this motorhome is high up so safer if a car does. My 2 travel inside with us and each have the equivalent of a doggy seat belt.
boyo1414
Guest
TWS has gone now and won't be commenting further but I will reply to his post anyway,,,,,,,
I don't think transporting an animal in a cage is "mistreatment" nor "neglect of the animal" which is the way I would put it.
I do believe that consigning an animal to being transported around behind a MH in such a box (as has been made),,,,,,,,,,,is not condusive with proper care and attention to that animal's needs and requirements.
There may well be trailers manufactured to carry dogs and similar animals but I don't believe that legality is the manufacturer's responsibility,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, more the responsibility of the driver who should make sure his cargo is properly cared for.
Personally,,,,,,,,, I would never allow my dogs to be carried in either a box or a trailer,,,,,,, I care for them too much for that
I don't think transporting an animal in a cage is "mistreatment" nor "neglect of the animal" which is the way I would put it.
I do believe that consigning an animal to being transported around behind a MH in such a box (as has been made),,,,,,,,,,,is not condusive with proper care and attention to that animal's needs and requirements.
There may well be trailers manufactured to carry dogs and similar animals but I don't believe that legality is the manufacturer's responsibility,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, more the responsibility of the driver who should make sure his cargo is properly cared for.
Personally,,,,,,,,, I would never allow my dogs to be carried in either a box or a trailer,,,,,,, I care for them too much for that
jimmnlizz
Guest
Regards Tom
PS Perhaps you should move on as I smell a rat.[/QUOTE]
SNAP! Sounds a lot like that 'teacher' person, Salopian, who caused the big arguement about the spelling on this site! He left after he had posted about a dozen times and caused an uproar!! JIM!!
PS Perhaps you should move on as I smell a rat.[/QUOTE]
SNAP! Sounds a lot like that 'teacher' person, Salopian,
who caused the big arguement about the spelling on this site! He left after he had posted about a dozen times and caused an uproar!! JIM!!boyo1414
Guest
I must have missed that as I don't come on here very often,,,,,,,,, I don't critisise spelling or grammar errors as I make too many of my own, I'm not as teacher and don't live in Shropshire,,,,,,,,,,,,, but apart from all that,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what rat?????
As in my PM to TWS,,, the guy asked for comments about his box and offered his address for reporting to the RSPCA,,,,, what am I not understanding here???
As in my PM to TWS,,, the guy asked for comments about his box and offered his address for reporting to the RSPCA,,,,, what am I not understanding here???
TWS
Guest
dogs This is the PM that was sent to me today by boyo 1414
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Go on then,,,, give me your address,,,, put up or shut up (as they say). I've nothing to report you about and really can't think of who I should report you to anyway,, and I live nowhere near Durham,,,,,,,, but you made the offer,, so cough up. Or is it all just empty hot air??
The guy made that box and asked for comments,,, he then put up his address and said "report me" so what's all the noise about??
I think,, he started the thread wanting to show-off and expecting everybody to applaud his efforts and now it's not the way he thought,,,,, he's regretting it. Such is life!! I don't know what your angle is but it's a tad "off the mark"
Most people who have made comment on the thread don't think the box is a good method of transporting a dog, so there it is,,,, let it go,,,,,,,,,, Julian
I wasn't going to make any further comment about the dog cage, but just want to show you the PM I received from boyo 1414, IMO this chap is out to cause trouble, I simply don't want to feed him further as he appears to thrive on conflict, above is the PM he sent to me, I have come across many people in my life who enjoy disharmony and causing trouble, I find the best way to deal with them is simply ignore them. He has made the RSPCA aware of the dog cage, end of story, lets just see what the RSPCA does about it.
Regards Tom
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Go on then,,,, give me your address,,,, put up or shut up (as they say). I've nothing to report you about and really can't think of who I should report you to anyway,, and I live nowhere near Durham,,,,,,,, but you made the offer,, so cough up. Or is it all just empty hot air??
The guy made that box and asked for comments,,, he then put up his address and said "report me" so what's all the noise about??
I think,, he started the thread wanting to show-off and expecting everybody to applaud his efforts and now it's not the way he thought,,,,, he's regretting it. Such is life!! I don't know what your angle is but it's a tad "off the mark"
Most people who have made comment on the thread don't think the box is a good method of transporting a dog, so there it is,,,, let it go,,,,,,,,,, Julian
I wasn't going to make any further comment about the dog cage, but just want to show you the PM I received from boyo 1414, IMO this chap is out to cause trouble, I simply don't want to feed him further as he appears to thrive on conflict, above is the PM he sent to me, I have come across many people in my life who enjoy disharmony and causing trouble, I find the best way to deal with them is simply ignore them. He has made the RSPCA aware of the dog cage, end of story, lets just see what the RSPCA does about it.
Regards Tom
Pioneer
Guest
Hi ianmorgan,
by jove you opened a can of worms with this one.
To settle could you not get a quote from the RSPCA regarding your travelling arrangements for your dog?
Doggie things always bring the best and the worst out in people.
Incidently, like your dog and your box.
Happy Camping
by jove you opened a can of worms with this one.
To settle could you not get a quote from the RSPCA regarding your travelling arrangements for your dog?
Doggie things always bring the best and the worst out in people.
Incidently, like your dog and your box.
Happy Camping
boyo1414
Guest
As I said in my PM,,,,,"let it go", and you say "end of story" ,,,,,, let it be so ,,,,, unless you or anyone else wishes to continue with the discussion
lenny
Guest
Hi ianmorgan,
by jove you opened a can of worms with this one.
Happy Camping
Worms in Cans
, is that allowed. Hope the lid is pierced so the little blighters can breathianmorgan
Guest
cheers tom for posting pm
hello julian
yes i did post pic and asked for comments,and i shall accept all, good and bad,doesn't annoy me in the slightest.as for showing of its a dog box ,i didn't build the MH.as for regretting it i don't think i ever posted words to that effect.
i await for your reply from RSPCA
not that i like waisting their time,o sorry that's you doing that
boyo1414
Guest
I'm glad you are not upset in the slightest about comments Ian,, though I must admit that your response to hirohito,,,,
"so they can f--k you off for wasting their time&money
ASSHOLE"
did appear as though you were tad annoyed
What I meant was that I think that you might be regretting starting the thread because of all the negative comments made regarding the box.
The RSPCA inspector may not make contact as they are suffering from man-power and finance constraints but I am assured that they much perfer a report to be made so that they can act on their own discretion,,,,,,, rather than no report being made at all.
I was discussing this thread with my wife and she posed the questions,,,,,
You describe your dog as "working",,, what work does it do??
If the dog is not allowed in the camper,, where does it sleep,,, in the box?
When you leave the camper during say,,,,,,,, a hot day and it's not conveinient to take the dog with you,,,, where does it stay,,,, in the box??
If you go out for the evening,, say for a meal or to the pub and the dog can't go with you, does it get put in the box??
Julian
"so they can f--k you off for wasting their time&money
ASSHOLE"
did appear as though you were tad annoyed
What I meant was that I think that you might be regretting starting the thread because of all the negative comments made regarding the box.
The RSPCA inspector may not make contact as they are suffering from man-power and finance constraints but I am assured that they much perfer a report to be made so that they can act on their own discretion,,,,,,, rather than no report being made at all.
I was discussing this thread with my wife and she posed the questions,,,,,
You describe your dog as "working",,, what work does it do??
If the dog is not allowed in the camper,, where does it sleep,,, in the box?
When you leave the camper during say,,,,,,,, a hot day and it's not conveinient to take the dog with you,,,, where does it stay,,,, in the box??
If you go out for the evening,, say for a meal or to the pub and the dog can't go with you, does it get put in the box??
Julian
masterfit
Guest
Replacement Children
Slightly annoyed with the accusation of my dog being a replacement for my children.
Im sure many people do have dogs for companionship wether they have children or not, and so they should, as a serial dog owner I can think of no better way to share your life.
My Kids however are both now responsible dog owners. I think the comment made was below the belt and childish. Surely posting this Dog box design was inviting conflict. Maybe Fiamma would be interested in the design NOT!!
Slightly annoyed with the accusation of my dog being a replacement for my children.
Im sure many people do have dogs for companionship wether they have children or not, and so they should, as a serial dog owner I can think of no better way to share your life.
My Kids however are both now responsible dog owners. I think the comment made was below the belt and childish. Surely posting this Dog box design was inviting conflict. Maybe Fiamma would be interested in the design NOT!!
ianmorgan
Guest
hi julianI'm glad you are not upset in the slightest about comments Ian,, though I must admit that your response to hirohito,,,,
"so they can f--k you off for wasting their time&money
ASSHOLE"
did appear as though you were tad annoyed
What I meant was that I think that you might be regretting starting the thread because of all the negative comments made regarding the box.
The RSPCA inspector may not make contact as they are suffering from man-power and finance constraints but I am assured that they much perfer a report to be made so that they can act on their own discretion,,,,,,, rather than no report being made at all.
I was discussing this thread with my wife and she posed the questions,,,,,
You describe your dog as "working",,, what work does it do??
If the dog is not allowed in the camper,, where does it sleep,,, in the box?
When you leave the camper during say,,,,,,,, a hot day and it's not conveinient to take the dog with you,,,, where does it stay,,,, in the box??
If you go out for the evening,, say for a meal or to the pub and the dog can't go with you, does it get put in the box??
Julian
my response to HIROHITO was only sent to him as the same manner to which he posted to me.not annoyed.
not regretting starting thread as i am not being cruel as you put to my dog by making him a perfectly safe place to travel.
to answer your wife's question. huskies are well known as being sleigh pulling dogs, that's their work as in working dogs.and before you get typing yes i know their is little to no snow in NI, that is why he is put in a harness and i have him pulling me on my bicycle around forests & beaches,it is what they love doing and keeps them fit and healthy.
as to where does it sleep,well i lift the box of the back of the MH and it is set inside my safari room awning with the door left open. the dog is on a 15ft line attached to MH so he can go in and out as he pleases.
when the dog is with me it is only local weekend trips N&S of Ireland and is never left alone,my pub & restaurant is the MH.
i think Ive answered all your questions.
hopefully satisfactorily IAN.