Living on your own land

"we are all equal we just have to stand up and make them realize. i spend alot of time making authority abide its own rules ,they break more than most criminals. they have a total disregard or their own rules yet smack us with a fine every time."

So true Alan.

When will people in this country realise that the lying, cheating fraudsters in parliament answer to us, the people.

I am ashamed of this once great country, we don't even try now because " It'll never happen". We give up before we have even started.

If I want to park up on MY LAND, I will, and nobody will stop me.
 
Captain, that's a good plan. In fact if you are in a motorhome it is extremely difficult for anyone to stop you. Caravans and temporary structures are second citzens when it comes to mobility.
 
and thank you maingate .There is only one law we must make authority abide by it. every one thinks fair ground or showman etc have special laws just for them . we are all equal we just have to stand up and make them realize. i spend alot of time making authority abide its own rules ,they break more than most criminals. they have a total disregard or their own rules yet smack us with a fine every time.

Hi vwalan and Maingate

Just got back from 7 weeks in Normandy and Brittany mainly on Aires yesterday.

The Travelling Showmen are actually covered by paragraph 10 of the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act (1960) Just as Clubs are under paragraphs 4, 5 and 6.

Local Authorities could set up Aires in this country under paragraph 11 of the same act without any other legislation being required if they only had the will to do so.

Will be posting info on my travells later.
 
but like you said just as clubs are. the law as many get outs .excemptions etc sometimes we have to look at excemptions first as if we are the rules are of no importance.(best know them though).i realise that showman have their guild that as been scruttineering law and rules to suit their way of life. we must also look hard at the rules. is the guild of showmans not just a club of sorts.
 
It strikes me that the residents of Meriden are suffering from a group who believe that this is already law! There has to be some control over ill-conceived "developments" in inappropriate places.
 
but like you said just as clubs are. the law as many get outs .excemptions etc sometimes we have to look at excemptions first as if we are the rules are of no importance.(best know them though).i realise that showman have their guild that as been scruttineering law and rules to suit their way of life. we must also look hard at the rules. is the guild of showmans not just a club of sorts.

That is very true vwallan.

The trouble is that we are divided and will not pull together but want to go our own way doing our own thing.

The big two clubs are only paying lip service to the needs of motor caravan users as they have a vested interest in getting members who will use their sites and certificated locations. The club that claims to be for motor caravanners is operating as a rally club with some locations it has certified but is not leading.

The other smaller clubs are all going their own way independently and only communicating with their own membership.

No one is representing all motorcaravanners, club members or independent and pushing the Tourism and local government people to provide a network of Aires in the UK as our continental cousins enjoy.

We have magazines that claim to be the voice of motor caravanning but when you get down to analying their content they are promoting the sites and locations of the big two clubs and or going off at a tangent trying to set up pub sites certificated by the other club.

Another individual is trying to do the same thing independently.

Divided we fall as the saying goes.

What is needed is for all motor caravanners to unite and push for facilities that we and our visiting cousins can use. The UK is very unfriendly to outsiders requiring them to join a club to be able to use a CL or pay expensive camp site fees to the clubs or independent users.

The French leisure vehicle manufactures and the clubs got together to lobby government to legislate to provide aires and now remove height barriers. We have the National Caravan Council but they dont seem to be promoting anything along these lines. Most manufacturers and the big clubs belong to the NCC but here in the UK we still have the 1950s mindset that caravans need sites and they treat motor caravans as just another form of caravan.

In France from the end of the 60s the local councils have seen the economic benefits of providing sites to independent visitors to use, realising that they bring trade into the area. We have the mindset that we must either use a site or the local hotels or guest houses. We need to pressure our local authorities to realise the benefits that could acrue from providing sites on the french aires lines to the community in general.

Graham of Motorhome Parking and AndyC are working on our behalf but we need a unified approach to get anywhere. Authorities generally will just ignore individuals.
 
yes i have been a regular visitor to france. and most of europe since a child. .but we here can group together and register as a club so it puts us equal to the showman. even so this is not really .a definate way to live on your own land . i like the way abroad you can live by the side of an industrial unit or small workshop .again frowned on in uk. i would like to buy a corner of a field and at present in discusion with my loocal council as i have been looking at a run down property near me. it needs flattening and start again .i ask can me and a friend split the property and put two log cabins or something .big suck of breath, possibly no. if we do it and dont ask do they do anything, if we apply properly we could be in trouble. its devil and deep blue sea. never mind i,m ok here really, just dont like the council tax . ha ha .i hear there is going to be some change anyway next year .not sure quite what but something is happening to make it easier. i seem to recall 2011 being a marker for some planning change. we shall have to wait and see.
 
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Hi interesting but clegg wont be around long but hay that dont matter I myself am a free man and ill do what i want this land is a sovrienty and as such the only true law is common law the rest is contract and you can make your own laws via aftadavids in the chancary court and if you want your land can become a trust and you can name a judge as trustee so the buck stops with him
or you land can become a sovrienty with you as the sovriene so any way to cut a long story short ime free if its my land ill live on it sorry for the spelling :)
 

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