layby fee dodgers

[John H]

But the worst thing of all in this thread is the utter bile directed at this site owner.

If she expresses herself as "horrified" and is campaigning for a change to the parking regulations then she must expect people to get upset. Let me put it this way - if a restaurant owner said he was horrified by the number of people sitting on the beach eating their own food instead of going to his restaurant, what would you expect the reaction to be? Apart from anything else, it is not good business to annoy people you see as potential customers. Perhaps they should direct their efforts to promotions and deals that might bring a few of us onto their sites.

 

[Northerner]

I am sorry to burst your bubble but having spent a lot of time in Cornwall they really do talk about tourists with contempt calling them Groclkes !
I have friends in Wiltshire who have a campsite and yes they really do say we F ing hate campers !
That is real life for you

Don't worry about my bubble! My uncle had a very popular pub and hotel in Porth, near Newquay, (The Cornish Chough) where I spent a lot of time and they talked about grockles, but it wasn't a term of contempt. Grockles just mean incomers or foreigners and my uncle had a great relationship with his clients, many of whom returned year after year. And he was not a 'creature' who fleeced the grockles!

What gets me, and we see it time and time again on here, is if anyone, a councillor, or a camp site owner, dares to complain about what they consider excessive wild camping in holiday resorts, they are subjected to the lowest form of bar-room abuse and utterly denigrated for daring to have an opinion that may differ from some of the members on here.

We are are own worst enemies.

 

[vwalan]

hi northener . just to enlighten you grockles are holiday makers in devon .here we call them emmits .
doesnt matter how you holiday here you are and will be an emmit . someone else got it wrong .hee hee.
there used to be non emmit stickers for locals to put on their vehicles . hopefully we got a cheaper icecream or cheaper carpark etc .
its how it is .
also you cant get 50 vans on the sea front in marazion ,but many do park just up the road in a couple of laybys. actually hardly any are really in a town or at a tourist spot . yes a few park oposite st michaels mount . but most are up out of the way on the other places .
but dun hee worry .just tip your cash up by jamaica inn . we shall share it out dreckly .
have a good un .thankee kind sir.

 

[Northerner]

hi northener . just to enlighten you grockles are holiday makers in devon .here we call them emmits .
doesnt matter how you holiday here you are and will be an emmit . someone else got it wrong .hee hee.
there used to be non emmit stickers for locals to put on their vehicles . hopefully we got a cheaper icecream or cheaper carpark etc .
its how it is .
also you cant get 50 vans on the sea front in marazion ,but many do park just up the road in a couple of laybys. actually hardly any are really in a town or at a tourist spot . yes a few park oposite st michaels mount . but most are up out of the way on the other places .
but dun hee worry .just tip your cash up by jamaica inn . we shall share it out dreckly .
have a good un .thankee kind sir.

My uncle used the term grockle and also emmits. The emmits were the ones on the beaches, because as you looked down on them they looked like ants. And emmit is a term for ants. But he never had any contempt for his clients. Certainly not the kind of contempt shown on here for anyone who dares to speak out against motorhomers thinking that they have a God-given right to park just where ever they like.

 

[QFour]

Hi All

Just back from the SOUTH WEST

We had a great time. Used a lot of CL Sites some as little as £4 a night one £15 a night. We spent a night at Pendennis Point ( Free ) and a night in Kyance Cove ( National Trust Car Park ) water in the toilet block but the tap in the gents has the handle removed. You can lift the lid of the drain round the back of the toilet block after 5pm .. also had a couple of overnights in pub car parks.

Not as expensive as it could have been worked out at under £8 a night and we were away for a month.

Ian

 

[Rubbertramp]

having spent a lot of time in Cornwall they really do talk about tourists with contempt calling them Groclkes !

It's Emmets Charlie, Emmets....a Cornish language derivation of the word for ants but unlike those industrious and tidy insects many of them act in a pretty despicable way while on their holidays in my homeland. Drunkenness is commonplace as is the litter strewn all over the beaches, harbours and town centres. Manners and respect for local people are rare in my experience. Maybe it is because they are reacting to being ripped off, who knows? But I do know that they are disliked intensely by local people....including many of those who work for the minimum wage in the tourist industry and only welcomed by the business owners who know what a fast buck they represent as each July comes around.

 

[John H]

......... the kind of contempt shown on here for anyone who dares to speak out against motorhomers thinking that they have a God-given right to park just where ever they like.

You speak as if we are asking for something special. We are not. We only want to park our vehicles where other people are allowed to park their cars - and without being insulted by businessmen who are looking for somebody to blame for their poor business figures.

 

[vwalan]

hi, we have to smile and be nice when taking their money .also if you are nice they may spend abit more . but dont worry we dont really like tourists or holiday makers of any sort. ha ha just the money .
think most tourist places are like it. but its not really meant to be nasty . many have been coming for years . you know what they drink before they order . they love that. i worked a summer on a campsite plus my brother had a couple of pubs . think its all part of the life. most landlords dont like folk going to spain and bringing back cheap booze or fags . or going up country to get cheaper cars than down here.
smile its candid camera .
i also lived at weymouth similar there as well.

 

[n brown]

having spent an absolutely appalling 2 weeks in cornwall where i was physically threatened by the bully boys of marazion,who called me a ****ing liar in front of my family,and being overcharged and treated with contempt by the locals of this county i think using a little irony to highlight the sheer greed of some of these operators forgiveable .seeing them shoot themselves in the foot suits me fine,of course if you're related you would never have experienced this treatment

 

[Funky Farmer]

60% loss of income? Is that down to motorhomers? Most of her trade is statics as I read it

 

[Northerner]

having spent an absolutely appalling 2 weeks in cornwall where i was physically threatened by the bully boys of marazion,who called me a ****ing liar in front of my family,and being overcharged and treated with contempt by the locals of this county i think using a little irony to highlight the sheer greed of some of these operators forgiveable .seeing them shoot themselves in the foot suits me fine,of course if you're related you would never have experienced this treatment

It's very odd that you stayed a fortnight then if it was so awful? Why didn't you go somewhere else if it was that terrible? I thought that was the advantage of a motorhome?

I'm not sure how you approach other people but I have never even been treated with contempt by anyone. On the contrary, we were in Marazion last year, just for the afternoon and the people in the shop were I bought a newspaper and the shop where we bought pasties were cheerful and friendly.

And there was no irony in your attack on the lady in question. It was an insulting and despicable attack on a woman doing nothing more than expressing her view. To describe her as a 'creature fleecing her customers was, in my opinion, disgraceful'.

 

[maingate]

Personally, I cannot see the attraction of a seaside town in High season, I like a bit of space around me.

We are currently using a THS on the Northumbrian coast and exercise the dogs on bamburgh beach. A number of motorhomes are overnighting but only for one night. There is however one motorhome that has been there for about 5 nights now. I do not know how they are getting water and I dread to think what they are doing with their toilet waste. Every morning when I see that they are still there, I get a stronger urge to go over and punch him. These are the idiots who ruin it for the sensible ones.

 

[Ems]

I'm off to Devon next week, and then onto Cornwall - you are making me have second thoughts! Only planning one night in Cornwall, visiting Landsend just because I've never been there, it can't be much worse than John'O'Groats! Wish me luck with the locals! I'm staying on a campsite in Devon with family so I should be safe there! :lol-053:

 

[Rubbertramp]

I'm off to Devon next week, and then onto Cornwall - you are making me have second thoughts! Only planning one night in Cornwall, visiting Landsend just because I've never been there, it can't be much worse than John'O'Groats! Wish me luck with the locals! I'm staying on a campsite in Devon with family so I should be safe there! :lol-053:

Land's End is just like John o' Groats...only with more plastic:goodluck:

 

[Northerner]

I'm off to Devon next week, and then onto Cornwall - you are making me have second thoughts! Only planning one night in Cornwall, visiting Landsend just because I've never been there, it can't be much worse than John'O'Groats! Wish me luck with the locals! I'm staying on a campsite in Devon with family so I should be safe there! :lol-053:

You'll have a great time. Treat people nicely and in my experience they always treat you the same! I had a week near Truro last year on a rally for a club I'm in and everyone was very nice. People tend to exaggerate a bit on here I'm afraid.

 

[vwalan]

well you will miss out .lots to see in cornwall . tinmines ,beam engines . ,amazing china clay area . plus beaches to die for .surf on the north coast snorkelling on the south. ancient stones and history . only one night . you really are missing out . lots of places to stop . best not near marazion but in many other places its ok .just not in newquay as it gets so many surfers doing it they get abit upset there as well.

 

[Ems]

Land's End is just like John o' Groats...only with more plastic:goodluck:

I just feel I need to visit at least once to see for myself

 

[Funky Farmer]

It's very odd that you stayed a fortnight then if it was so awful? Why didn't you go somewhere else if it was that terrible? I thought that was the advantage of a motorhome?

I'm not sure how you approach other people but I have never even been treated with contempt by anyone. On the contrary, we were in Marazion last year, just for the afternoon and the people in the shop were I bought a newspaper and the shop where we bought pasties were cheerful and friendly.

And there was no irony in your attack on the lady in question. It was an insulting and despicable attack on a woman doing nothing more than expressing her view. To describe her as a 'creature fleecing her customers was, in my opinion, disgraceful'.

n brown was relating a personal experience. Surely you can't berate him for that.

 

[n brown]

because at that time i had better opinion of people,i ventured further into the place thinking that it was just unlucky,meeting such rude and aggressive people,by the time i got to lands end i couldn't afford to go elsewhere.i think,considering the way were treated,i'm being quite mild. first night there,being unforgivably poor,parked in a layby.next morning drove into the car park where the attendant demanded an overnight fee,as my bonnet was cold.why on earth am i explaining myself ?thats it

 

[Ems]

well you will miss out .lots to see in cornwall . tinmines ,beam engines . ,amazing china clay area . plus beaches to die for .surf on the north coast snorkelling on the south. ancient stones and history . only one night . you really are missing out . lots of places to stop . best not near marazion but in many other places its ok .just not in newquay as it gets so many surfers doing it they get abit upset there as well.

I've seen alot of Cornwall, used to go every year but never made it to Landsend. I don't have many days holiday left so will enjoy the drive down and drive through places I used to stay for a quick look.