layby fee dodgers

Ta I have it now. Don't that woman realise that most mororhomers wouldn't go to her over priced site even under pain of death. Even more so now.
 
Sparks said:
BBC News - Call to prevent lay-by camping in Cornwall


"Strictly speaking"? If that's the stance of the C&CC then it looks like they will be losing a member here!
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The Caravan Club and the C&CC may have started off as members clubs but they are now big business and, like all the other caravan site owners, they are more interested in profit than representing "members". What I can't get over is that these people don't realise that if they ban us from wildcamping we are not going to flood onto their campsites but, instead, we will go somewhere more welcoming - like France! If they are right and tourism income is down then they won't do anything to increase it by this kind of attitude. When will they realise that for virtually no outlay they can increase potential custom? We may not be a mass market but we do provide some income and they don't have to do anything to earn it - except welcome us.
 
50 camper vans parked up in the afternoon all Camping free of charge! :scared: Its an outrage! They should have been On Mrs Watts site paying £25 odd a night.They should be dragged from their vans and shot shouldn't they! Her bookings being down 60% have nothing to do with the weather then, or people having much less disposable income due to the recession.Since when has it been against the law to park in a lay by in the daytime?
 
hi .think its fair to say cornwall doesnt want tourists .it wants to go back to stand and deliver. get to the cornwall devon border you tip all your money out and belongings .then a masked highwayman picks it up and you go on your way back where you came from .
been like it for years . its just took for granted now that folk will visit .
but never mind more room for us locals .hee hee .
 
Funky Farmer said:
Ta I have it now. Don't that woman realise that most mororhomers wouldn't go to her over priced site even under pain of death. Even more so now.
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well i thought she sounded nice and 60 or 70 quid a night is nothing to one as fabulously wealthy as moi.plus the satisfaction of knowing i am helping this creature fleece the revolting grockles will help me sleep at night,even on her stupidly over priced patch of grass. on second thoughts i'm off to wales,where even as an english,i'm considered human
 
Just read the article and just love the way Suzy Watts blames wildcampers for the loss in revenue!! I mean, it can't POSSIBLY be down to the weather we've had, or her prices, could it??

(£18.95 per/night for 2 people, + Mains electric hook-up, charged at £4.50 per/night + Dogs, per dog, charged at 2.00 per/night + Extra person (over the age of 2), charged at £2.00 per/night + Awning, charged at £1.00 per/night)

I'm suprised that Suzy Watts hasn't called for a ban on the 2 Clubs Holiday Rallies, as this must be taking trade away from the regular campsites as well? Strange how the campsites that allow the Clubs to use them for their rallies don't seem to object to the lower fees they are getting.

I AM bothered by the comment of Su Nicolas, the councillor for Marazion, who said that "These people are disposing of waste on the beach and on the RSPB site. We have had about 30 complaints from members of the public." I just hope this is an exaggeration, and that it is definitely not their cassettes they are emptying on the beach!!

The MHs parking on the front at Marazion always have been a bone of contention, even to the point of vandalism occuring. Personally, I wouldn't like to park there, as it is very close to the road, but I can see the attraction, - lovely view!!

I just hope Cornwall doesn't become a no-go area for Wildcampers!!
 
so we all go to cornwall stay on a site then what do we do for transport i know we use the motorhome as we have driven it there and dont have a car for transport hence we are in marizon for the afternoon
 
kernowprickles said:
I AM bothered by the comment of Su Nicolas, the councillor for Marazion, who said that "These people are disposing of waste on the beach and on the RSPB site. We have had about 30 complaints from members of the public." I just hope this is an exaggeration, and that it is definitely not their cassettes they are emptying on the beach!!
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I have no doubt that the council has had had complaints but I do doubt that too many of the objectors have actually seen people dropping waste rather than just making assumptions that fit their prejudices. I am sure we have all seen other motorhomers dropping casette waste etc where they shouldn't and unfortunately we all get tarred with the same brush. As with complaints against travellers, Roma etc, it doesn't matter what the silent majority do; all that matters is that some people are determined to get rid of us and they will use the example of the few to ban the rest.
 
what made me laugh is the thought of cornish landowners banging on motorhome doors and shouting' git orn moi laaand! '
 
Ian Geddes, from the Camping and Caravan Club, said: "Strictly speaking they shouldn't be doing it. The local police have the power to move them on. We'd rather motor home owners didn't do it."

Since when do the police have the power to move people on in this situation?

Surely that's only true if they're breaching a Traffic Regulation Order? ( Rhetorical question, by the way, before we resurrect that old chestnut :) )

Shows just how out of touch organisations such as his are ...
 
Mrs Watts said: "Last week I was horrified to see more than 50 camper vans, parked up in the afternoon, all camping free of charge.
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That's only Mrs Watts interpretation of what she saw.

Doesn't she realise that most Motorhomers use their vans to drive around the area they are staying in, visiting the local beauty spots. We are not the same as Campers and Caravaners who leave their abodes in a field while they drive to the attractions. It's possible, even probable, that a lot of the vans were only parked up for the afternoon and later moved on to park elsewhere, even on overpriced campsites.
And even if they didn't move on, as long as they were Taxed, Tested, Insured, parked leagally and the owners weren't abusing the area, it has nothing to do with her.

What she should be doing is figuring out we we aren't using her site, not trying to get the local council to make up more rules for them to police and trying force us onto her site (which would never happen).
 
This lady campsite owner is not the least bit bothered that her occupancy rate is well down, it is what she wants. That way, she can convince the local Council that she needs 'change of use', put Static caravans on the land and make more money. They are the real moneyspinner.

She will have occupancy of 11 months of the year (no high season and low season). Once it is full, she can put up prices. We looked into these sort of sites when thinking of downsizing and really got our eyes opened at what really goes on. They have loads of petty rules which affect owners unduly. We have spoken to a number of residents who are in the process of getting out or have already done so. A number of people cannot afford to do so and are well and truly stuck. I expect that there are good sites as well but it is a minefield.

If you go on Google Earth and scan down the East Yorkshire coast, you will see how these sites have taken off.

This lady will probably keep her Tipis ..... wouldn't you at £60 per night.
 
As I am currently managing a chalet park to help a friend out here in Aberdovey.

Out of about 15 lett-able chalets, only one was pre booked this week.

A few stragerlers have booked since the weekend, mainly for a few days only.

This I'm afraid is a sign of the times. Normaly there is an overspill for the main 8 weeks.

Hearing today from the government of a much belated triple dip in the economy.

If they are right and things tighten up even more.

I recon these site owners will have to look elsewhere to supliment their income?

May be even putting functions on for us to spend on their site.

They certainly are being complacent by just winging.

We don't go where were not wanted Lads do we....


Places like Woolacombe Bay are certainly bombarding me on the net with offers.

And why not, its my choice whether I choose to take them up, like I have in the past.

Find out which way business is going, and cater for it.

How many times have you heard that it was ok for my father, and his father before him.

Don't these people realise that business is constantly changing.

If you don't...... Welcome to durasic park?


For an eg...... I was trained by the yanks in sales, they couldn't believe how we sell things.

They returned one day from the town saying, you would'nt believe how they sell cars here.

They have a show room and wait for people to come along to buy.

When I asked how do you do it they replied.

First identify your target market, who is likely to buy a new car.

People whose car is 18 months to three years old.

Then go around the town inviting them with the right redge, to a champane party with there wifes.

As a free try in the new model. This you do with a leaflet under the wiper.

After they arrive and are treated well, invited to a test run.

You ask why don't they have a new car. The answer in usually the money.

Well our boss said he hadn't a case that he could'nt beat what they were paying now, plus they will have soon to start paying out on repaires!

No Hassel, think of the prestige of having a new car, for less that you are paying now.

Must have the little lady with you though? sit her in it, Hmmm.

Ten years with them taught me a lot, They said it increases sales ten fold.

Get on your bike now! seem a good idea.

Rgd's Graham.
 
i have to say that I find some of the comments in this thread absolutely appalling. And if this is how some members on here act in public it's no wonder that we are disliked by so many people.

What has happened? Like many popular spots certain areas are becoming overrun with dozens of motorhomes. These people are not out in the wild, discreetly parked away from anyone, but in lay-bys close to, or even in, holiday resorts. Yet there are many on here who simply cannot see anything wrong with this, who totally fail to understand why we are so disliked and in some case, equated with travellers. Yes, they know that we are not actually travellers but they hold us in the same kind of contempt that many people, rightly or wrongly, have for travellers. All that matters to some of you is that we are allowed to park just anywhere we like without hindrance. Can you imagine what this little island would be like if anyone could just park up a motorhome, and if a motorhome, why not a car and caravan, just anywhere? In any lay-by, in any residential street or on any promenade in a seaside town?

But the worst thing of all in this thread is the utter bile directed at this site owner. She has a business to run and why shouldn't she be allowed to express her view? We don't have to agree with her but to says things like this is despicable:

Don't that woman realise that most mororhomers wouldn't go to her over priced site even under pain of death. Even more so now.

well i thought she sounded nice and 60 or 70 quid a night is nothing to one as fabulously wealthy as moi.plus the satisfaction of knowing i am helping this creature fleece the revolting grockles will help me sleep at night,even on her stupidly over priced patch of grass. on second thoughts i'm off to wales,where even as an english,i'm considered human.

The people who made these comments actually had no idea what her prices are and the £50-70 a night is just ludicrous. It turns out that her site charges about £25 a night, which is a lot less than many in France for instance.

But 'Helping this 'creature' fleece the revolting grockles'. That's a revolting comment. Who are these grockles? Do you mean ordinary families having holidays in Cornwall? Does the author of these words somehow think himself superior to ordinary, hard-working people who choose to use camp sites, probably because they have children and wish to have a base with all the facilities?

This thread has made me ashamed of wild-campers. If I thought that the comments on here were typical of all wild campers I would leave this site tonight.

Why are some of you allowed to argue your case for wild camping, but this 'creature' isn't allowed to have her say? You may not agree with her but you have no right to insult and demean her. Shame on you all!
 
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