Laptop Charging

What do you do to them? I have laptops that are ten years old, still good as new. Apart from the batteries, which tend to only last two or three years.

They get used a lot, a hell of a lot. The last one (Acer) literally fell to bits and is not worth repairing. The one before that I dropped on a stone floor in an office and it ended up being sold as a bag of bits on ebay. I work in IT (Well Im semi retired now). Ive always advised clients to replace any computer between 3-5 years anyway. They just become more bother than they are worth after that.
 
They get used a lot, a hell of a lot. The last one (Acer) literally fell to bits and is not worth repairing. The one before that I dropped on a stone floor in an office and it ended up being sold as a bag of bits on ebay. I work in IT (Well Im semi retired now). Ive always advised clients to replace any computer between 3-5 years anyway. They just become more bother than they are worth after that.
When I worked for a certain Computer Services company, our standard policy with Computers for clients was 3 years LT, 4 Years DT as the most cost-efficient way to run them.
Of course that was blown out the water when we turned up to meetings with 5+ year old laptops, usually falling apart and way slower than the ones they wanted to update.
 
In my experience leaving a laptop on charge all day actually shortens the life of the laptop battery. On or off charge the laptop will run off it’s battery not the mains charger, that is purely recharging the battery.

I use all my devices on their batteries and then put them on charge, if your hab batteries are at risk of going too low by recharging your laptop I would say you maybe need more capacity.
 
I use my laptop "off power", as that is what it was designed for, surely? When the battery gets low, I charge it up again - whether at home from the mains or in my van, using the cigar lighter adaptor thingy, from the leisure battery.

I thought that was what I was supposed to do.

This is what I have aways done.

In my experience leaving a laptop on charge all day actually shortens the life of the laptop battery. On or off charge the laptop will run off it’s battery not the mains charger, that is purely recharging the battery.

I use all my devices on their batteries and then put them on charge, if your hab batteries are at risk of going too low by recharging your laptop I would say you maybe need more capacity.

Can't disagree with anything you've said.

Regards,
Del
 
You are far better using the laptop on the table or on a tray on your lap, most laptops draw air into the fan underneath the laptop, using on your knees could result in clothing obstructing the fan air vent.

Alf


i have recently had my laptop "thermally repasted" in the hope that it will stop running so hot. I didn't notice this heat until i started using it on my lap, rather than on my big table. The computer shop engineer said it should run 20degrees cooler. Has anyone else had this done and did it make a difference?

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The processor gets hot, as do many of the other components. Unless you have changed it of late, I recall that your laptop is one made using cheaper components not designed for laptops (that's why it was cheap). But that doesn't really matter.

Components inside the laptop are fixed against heatsinks to carry the heat away, and a VERY thin layer of heat-conducting compound (sometimes called thermal paste) is placed in between to improve the heat flow. It needs replacing if you take the component off its heatsink, but should never need replacing otherwise, and too much of it just makes a mess and works less well.

If the heat is getting from the components to the heatsinks as it should, the fan will be blowing warm air out of the vents under or at the side of the laptop.

If there was a problem and it is now fixed, you should notice that the air coming out is warmer than before, not cooler, because the waste heat is being carried away more effectively.

However, if that is the case, the components will be cooler, so the laptop wil be running faster: they slow down when they detect overheating.

Generally, laptops overheat because the vents are blocked (by dust or fluff, or by being put on a cloth instead of a hard surface) so the fan can;t blow ir through, or because there are too many programs running (such as anti-virus software - or viruses!).

If you still have the same laptop as you had a year or so ago, I VERY strongly advise you not to spend any more money on it. Put it towards buying something that is significantly better.

indeed i do. I bought it 2nd hand about 4 years ago and i only use in the van for writing i Word while on van trips, and for keeping a spreadsheet for the long trips. it never goes on the internet. so it might be old, and its certainly slow, but i dont mind that. it does what i want it to. This re-pasting is the first time i have spent any money on it re maintenance and it was cleaned thoroughly before the pasting. Some UTube film makers say its not worth doing, some swear by it. Lets see shortly how much cooler/faster it may /may not be. I can easily use my laptop on a tray on my lap to prevent fabric from stopping air circulating - so thanks for that tip.
 
One downside to older laptops and why they get hotter is they are using more power, depending how old manufacturers were using desktop cpu’s In laptops to reduce their costs. While these were powerful for their time they were short battery life and hot.

Anyone running a laptop more than 6 years old would probably be astounded at the performance of the cheapest atom based notebook.

If it is working though and it is doing what you want then carry on.

It’s very doable now to build a small mini-itx ’ system into a van, use your van tv for the screen and wireless mouse/keyboard/trackpad for control for not much money and all 12 volt low power
 
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One downside to older laptops and why they get hotter is they are using more power, depending how old manufacturers were using desktop cpu’s In laptops to reduce their costs. While these were powerful for their time they were short battery life and hot.

Anyone running a laptop more than 6 years old would probably be astounded at the performance of the cheapest atom based notebook.

If it is working though and it is doing what you want then carry on.

It’s very doable now to build a small mini-itx ’ system into a van, use your van tv for the screen and wireless mouse/keyboard/trackpad for control for not much money and all 12 volt low power

Very possible and effective.

For us we do not have TV so no go.
I have a small but good hybrid machine (14in screen)with detachable keyboard.
Use a wireless mouse
the screen is a touch screen but mainly I much prefer the mouse especially for spreadsheets etc

Similar to a ms surface but refurbished and 1/2 the price (Laptops direct)
It has GPS which is handy

In winter we do not use the vehicle so the laptop is used at home and has HDMI so I can use with a TV Eg youtube
but mainly the native screen is fine..Big enough to be useable but small enough for the MoHo
 
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If there was a problem and it is now fixed, you should notice that the air coming out is warmer than before, not cooler, because the waste heat is being carried away more effectively.

However, if that is the case, the components will be cooler, so the laptop wil be running faster: they slow down when they detect overheating.

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the exhaust air can only be heated upto the temp of the internal componants , if they are running cooler the exhaust air will be cooler. basic physics.
 
the exhaust air can only be heated upto the temp of the internal componants , if they are running cooler the exhaust air will be cooler. basic physics.

i am off in the van this coming weekend so i can really test it out there.....
 
I have a ultrabook with 8th gen intel and SSD, I rarely trouble the processor with high load, being online such as now the fan doesn't even switch on and it is difficult to feel any heat, around the vents with this passive cooling it can best be described as tepid. Plugging in for longer times to charge up battery will make it warm up, and eventually the fan will switch on, as it gets to around fully charged the fan will often (always?) go to high speed.
 
Acer laptops are not worth repairing the day you buy them!

They are all much of a muchness really unless you go for something like a commercial high end Thinkpad thats built to last but at over a grand for a decent one I would still probably drop it or run over it at some point. :D I do have a good spec Lenovo Thinkpad now but its not one of the top end bullet proof ones but I got it ridiculously cheap so it will do for a couple of years or so.
 
And if you switch them over to linux lite or mint they will run faster and cooler with no bugs etc,head down now.:idea::danger:
 
And if you switch them over to linux lite or mint they will run faster and cooler with no bugs etc,head down now.:idea::danger:
But then I'd have to have a blanket on my lap to stop my legs getting chilled. :p
 
I buy my Thinkpads from rectech.co.uk at about 20% of the new price.

Not used them but its not a bad idea if you can get something thats six or seventh generation and add on a decent size SSD and 8-16gb RAm. New, probably over a grand but two to four hundred quid from somewhere like that with the same years warranty. Thats what I did this time around and so far it seems ok. The trouble if you go too old though is if its an original battery it will be knackered or soon will be.
 
i just thought i would come back and tell folks that my ancient laptop which i had thermally repasted recently does get significantly less hot. I used it for a couple of hours yesterday on my lap and it was only tad warm, so the repasting seems to have reduced the temperature.... thats good news then....
 
i just thought i would come back and tell folks that my ancient laptop which i had thermally repasted recently does get significantly less hot. I used it for a couple of hours yesterday on my lap and it was only tad warm, so the repasting seems to have reduced the temperature.... thats good news then....

Now that you have learned to paste i have a few sheets of wall paper needing doing.:lol-053:
 
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Sadly, not necessarily. The power management in Mint and Lite are not all that good. And everything is harder in deskop linux. All our servers run on linux, but I've given up with it on laptops.

I find it more easy,but nevada cards are the big prob but im sure you know this.
 

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