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Italian car park fine
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wildebus
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Question: The 4 vans you mention above that did not have tickets .... were they parked there at the time you originally parked? If they were not there when you parked, you could have been ticketed before they arrived.
For less than €30, is it really worth taking the risk of ignoring the penalty?
You may not have understood what the Car symbol meant but the ticket detail explains that and it matches the situation so you are basically 'banged to rights' are you not?
it is quite possible an unpaid fine, and being a municipal govt. fine as opposed to a private company one, your registration could be logged on a database and on re-entry with an APNR camera on the Border, something gets flagged up. You may not typically get stopped within EU borders, but doesn't mean they are not manned, and with a UK Registration, likely to get checked anyway more than a vehicle with a EU Country's reg.
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I think the way you deal with genuine mistakes you make in life reflects a lot about a person's character ....
I'm a kind of "Yup I cocked that up and will accept the process of making amends type"
And learn from the process ....
Rather than "it's someone else's fault I'm not sorting it out type "
I'm a kind of "Yup I cocked that up and will accept the process of making amends type"
And learn from the process ....
Rather than "it's someone else's fault I'm not sorting it out type "
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Judgmental , pompous , superior , patronising.
For me , all of the above
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I think that the OP would get a similar response if he went to the police and asked them.
Personally I would tend not to cross the police in a foreign country so if it was me I wouldn't argue the point (not that I go to or intend to go to foreign countries anymore).
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Foreign plates on the others or local?
Is it a fine or a penalty notice.
Is it a fine or a penalty notice.
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That's what we did, my wife spent all night rehearsing the Italian she was going to use only for the police on the desk to speak English. They waived it.
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Sorry to read this story. Having myself a motorhome with an Italian plate number, I can tell you the following:
1.According to article 185 of the Italian Highway Code a motorhome (M1 in the official documents) is considered a car for parking and overnight stop. As in any country, conditions apply and everybody is supposed to know them.
2.However, some municipalities set up local regulations restricting some parking areas to car only; it happens very often in popular and touristic areas and Lake Garda is well known for this... Very often, it's because they are feed up with motorhome drivers' behaviours and/or because of lobbying campsites.
3.There is a long story about abusive interpretation of highway legislation by LOCAL police and, as a reaction, a motorhome association has been created. if interested, you may read more at https://coordinamentocamperisti.it/
4.What you received is apparently a simple communication; this aims primarily to inform you that you are entitled to a "discount" + avoid the notification charges if you pay immediately. But it obviously puts some psychological pressure.
5.Anyway, they five days have past, so you should wait for the official notification. One of the (few) advantages of ****** is that Britons are no longer bound to the EU regulations about fines abroad and also that the British authorities might refuse access to the database of the addresses of car owners', when the Italians will ask for your address. So, although the local police in the Trentino region is known to be very effective, in my humble opinion it is very unlikely that you will receive the official notification.
6.The term expires in 90 days for Italians fined within the country, 360 days for Italians abroad. I guess that no term exists for foreigners.
7.To my knowledge, there is no national database of fines in Italy; yours was issued by the LOCAL rather that the NATIONAL police. So the risk that you are checked by the national police somewhere else in Italy and found guilty not having paid a local fine seems very limited.
8.Eventually, if the police (local/national) stops you during your next trip in Italy and finds that you did not
pay the fine, you may argue that you are still waiting for the official notification.
Now, it is up to you to draw your own conclusions; I can only say that, having travelled extensively the whole continent with my motorhome, I still consider Italy as one of the most welcoming countries for motorhome holidaymakers. So, I invite those who think that's all about "Italian mafia" to review their position.
1.According to article 185 of the Italian Highway Code a motorhome (M1 in the official documents) is considered a car for parking and overnight stop. As in any country, conditions apply and everybody is supposed to know them.
2.However, some municipalities set up local regulations restricting some parking areas to car only; it happens very often in popular and touristic areas and Lake Garda is well known for this... Very often, it's because they are feed up with motorhome drivers' behaviours and/or because of lobbying campsites.
3.There is a long story about abusive interpretation of highway legislation by LOCAL police and, as a reaction, a motorhome association has been created. if interested, you may read more at https://coordinamentocamperisti.it/
4.What you received is apparently a simple communication; this aims primarily to inform you that you are entitled to a "discount" + avoid the notification charges if you pay immediately. But it obviously puts some psychological pressure.
5.Anyway, they five days have past, so you should wait for the official notification. One of the (few) advantages of ****** is that Britons are no longer bound to the EU regulations about fines abroad and also that the British authorities might refuse access to the database of the addresses of car owners', when the Italians will ask for your address. So, although the local police in the Trentino region is known to be very effective, in my humble opinion it is very unlikely that you will receive the official notification.
6.The term expires in 90 days for Italians fined within the country, 360 days for Italians abroad. I guess that no term exists for foreigners.
7.To my knowledge, there is no national database of fines in Italy; yours was issued by the LOCAL rather that the NATIONAL police. So the risk that you are checked by the national police somewhere else in Italy and found guilty not having paid a local fine seems very limited.
8.Eventually, if the police (local/national) stops you during your next trip in Italy and finds that you did not
pay the fine, you may argue that you are still waiting for the official notification.
Now, it is up to you to draw your own conclusions; I can only say that, having travelled extensively the whole continent with my motorhome, I still consider Italy as one of the most welcoming countries for motorhome holidaymakers. So, I invite those who think that's all about "Italian mafia" to review their position.
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We had one in Belgium, never paid it and they did'nt chase it up.
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Overall finding places to stay overnight in Italy has been easy - we must have done over 30 nights. Unfortunately most of the Sostas are badly designed; common tap for drinking water and cassette wash, badly positioned grey water drain, cassette dump point awkward leading to poor hygiene. Many Sostas are pretty much derelict; no water supply or only a trickle, blocked and unusable grey and black water drains. Thankfully the app, where there up to date reviews, makes it possible to avoid the bad ones.