Hymer A class drop down bed info. Please

[Harleyboygaz3]

Hi. Last week we brought a second hand drop down bed from a 1991 Hymer B544 to go into our Hymer S700. It's being shipped over to us from Uk. and was wondering if one of you kind folk might have any tips or info. on installing please? It comes with all the concertina arms,pistons and nuts and bolts etc. I have had a good scan on google for any close up pics or even diagrams unsuccessfully. I can see that it is secured by two bolts into each side in the front but that's about it!! Any pics or info would be very kindly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Gary

 

[The laird]

Dropbed

Give Ross Jarvis a call in the stores at brown hills Hymer parts he might send you a schematic diagram that could help you ,say you might need a bit and get him to email you
I’ve had a few things sent to me
Sorry can’t help more

 

[The laird]

Bed

Hope it helps I’m still looking for info for you
Might be worth posting on Hymer international forum

 

[The laird]

Hi. Last week we brought a second hand drop down bed from a 1991 Hymer B544 to go into our Hymer S700. It's being shipped over to us from Uk. and was wondering if one of you kind folk might have any tips or info. on installing please? It comes with all the concertina arms,pistons and nuts and bolts etc. I have had a good scan on google for any close up pics or even diagrams unsuccessfully. I can see that it is secured by two bolts into each side in the front but that's about it!! Any pics or info would be very kindly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Gary

This was on Hymer int forum
Google Hymer international club and search

 

[Harleyboygaz3]

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Google Hymer international club and search

Thanks for the information Graham , really appreciated.

 

[Harleyboygaz3]

Does your van have any fittings where the .mounting bolts would go? On a van with the drop-down bed, they are of course in place. But if it wasn't built to take a drop-down bed, would Hymer include brackets anyway?

Hi, no the van doesn't have any fittings but just the two holes with threads either side where the fixing bolts are fitted. Iam pretty sure all made were fitted with the drop down bed and ones without is where the owner has taken out to make the cab space more roomy. I must admit, I know it will close everything in once fitted but will suit our needs more as we can then convert the lounge area back for seating instead of fixed bed. I will try to attach some pics of what I have brought as a package. Thank you.

 

[walpeter]

Good luck with the bed. Just to say, I have a Hymer B544 1991 and the bed does not look like that. Models of that era were in brown, I think, and only later were the lighter colours introduced. Also, I am not sure whether a bed from a Fiat Hymer will fit the Mercedes (different shape at the front).

 

[dalspa]

I’m sure that I read somewhere that to removal of the bed is done with the windscreen removed. Whether this is just because it makes it easier, I don’t know. Could depend on the internal layout of fixed furniture as to the ease of getting the bed in through the door and I into position, prior to fixing. I would expect that the threaded fixings are all in place in order to receive the bolts, as standard.

 

[Harleyboygaz3]

Good luck with the bed. Just to say, I have a Hymer B544 1991 and the bed does not look like that. Models of that era were in brown, I think, and only later were the lighter colours introduced. Also, I am not sure whether a bed from a Fiat Hymer will fit the Mercedes (different shape at the front).

Thanks for that, it was actually advertised that he brought it from a 1991 Hymer for his 1989 B544 but never fitted it? I assumed that all drop downs of that era were same ? I hope I'm right as it has set me back a fair few quid :scared:

 

[Harleyboygaz3]

Thanks for that, it was actually advertised that he brought it from a 1991 Hymer for his 1989 B544 but never fitted it? I assumed that all drop downs of that era were same ? I hope I'm right as it has set me back a fair few quid :scared:

Iam now hoping that maybe he brought it to fit his 1989 B544 and didn't fit, hence the sale?? The shape looks like it should go into my 700 . Looked into buying a new one from Hamblingtons Hymer but they do not stock them anymore. Fingers crossed..

 

[Harleyboygaz3]

I’m sure that I read somewhere that to removal of the bed is done with the windscreen removed. Whether this is just because it makes it easier, I don’t know. Could depend on the internal layout of fixed furniture as to the ease of getting the bed in through the door and I into position, prior to fixing. I would expect that the threaded fixings are all in place in order to receive the bolts, as standard.

Thanks , I also read somewhere about having to take the windscreen out but have had a good measure up and looks OK to go through the hab door no probs. I've taken out the swivel seat and table unit so have got more space to juggle with. Fingers crossed..

 

[seadogjon]

Hi. Last week we brought a second hand drop down bed from a 1991 Hymer B544 to go into our Hymer S700. It's being shipped over to us from Uk. and was wondering if one of you kind folk might have any tips or info. on installing please? It comes with all the concertina arms,pistons and nuts and bolts etc. I have had a good scan on google for any close up pics or even diagrams unsuccessfully. I can see that it is secured by two bolts into each side in the front but that's about it!! Any pics or info would be very kindly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Gary

Best try the classic hymer group on facebook they will have all the info ,even down to the correct torque for the bolts etc .
Looking at ours it looks impossible to take in or out ,but good luck,,jon

 

[Deleted member 62288]

I've previously looked at removing my over-cab drop down on my Hymer 680, But there is zero way of getting it out of the vehicle without removing the windscreen.

You're a braver man than me Gunga Din,

good luck, please do a video and share your challenges with us all.

- and don't bleep out the F's that will be in plentiful supply.

james

 

[Harleyboygaz3]

I've previously looked at removing my over-cab drop down on my Hymer 680, But there is zero way of getting it out of the vehicle without removing the windscreen.

You're a braver man than me Gunga Din,

good luck, please do a video and share your challenges with us all.

- and don't bleep out the F's that will be in plentiful supply.

james

Thanks for the vote of confidence James, Iam sure it will be a challenge but from my measurements I should be able to squeeze it through from rear of van to front horizontally with about 2 cm to spare on each side. Iam going to try without taking out the front seats out, I think the bed should slide over top of them reclined.. If a bit tight then I'll take them out as well. Failing all that, I have a brand new windscreen rubber seal so will have to find a good local windscreen company who can take out screen while I fit bed !:idea-007:

 

[Harleyboygaz3]

If the holes are there, it should be possible. I can't see why you would have to take the windscreen out. Mine is the newer white model, but I doubt it is very different.

I recently (just) managed to fit an 8' by 4' sheet of ply in to bring it home, and have previously carried a king size mattress, which was almost a foot deep.

What I suggest you do is to make a lightweight template the size of the bed and test getting it in and over the cab seats, before trying to do it with the bed itself.

The bed is simply attached to the four mounting bolts. If it would help, I can take a photo of how mine is fitted.

I replaced the gas struts a year or two ago. The "how to" instructions on the web were all ridiculous: none of them could possibly work on my van. But I worked out how to do it. Removing or installing it would not be much more effort, as long as you can get it into the cab area

Thanks again, yes a good idea to template the bed as it weighs approx. 40 kg evidently. I am certain I can get the bed in hab. door as I have taken out all the table and unit and is a massive void have also measured and looks room to spare. Seeing a picture or two of yours, especially of the concertina mechanism just so I have a rough idea would be really grateful. All pictures I can find on Web you can't see the mechanism as the shroud/curtain covers its view. Thanks

 

[The laird]

I'm not sure what you mean by "concertina mechanism" so here are some photos of the place where the bed bolts to the bodywork on the right hand side.

If you'd like photos of other areas, please let me know and I'll try to take the appropriate pictures.

The front bolt is just behind the word "Nitro" on the strut.

Think it’s cantilever he is meaning?

 

[Harleyboygaz3]

I'm not sure what you mean by "concertina mechanism" so here are some photos of the place where the bed bolts to the bodywork on the right hand side.

If you'd like photos of other areas, please let me know and I'll try to take the appropriate pictures.

The front bolt is just behind the word "Nitro" on the strut.

Thanks for the pics. Although not sure which model or year Hymer you have but looks quite different to mine. Also I see yours has cab doors where mine has only one hab door in the middle of the van. Thanks Gordon, rightly so,yes I meant cantilever mechanism. Still not arrived yet so still nervous to how things will end!! Thanks for all the help and replies.

 

[The laird]

Thanks for the pics. Although not sure which model or year Hymer you have but looks quite different to mine. Also I see yours has cab doors where mine has only one hab door in the middle of the van. Thanks Gordon, rightly so,yes I meant cantilever mechanism. Still not arrived yet so still nervous to how things will end!! Thanks for all the help and replies.

Didn’t take any pics of mine as it’s like what was shown .think a. bit of look ,assess then attack
Good luck and will be interested as a few other will be as to how you get on

 

[Harleyboygaz3]

Didn’t take any pics of mine as it’s like what was shown .think a. bit of look ,assess then attack
Good luck and will be interested as a few other will be as to how you get on

Yep, that's what I have planned for when it arrives like you say, quick look,assess and attack! Luckily the vans inside has got a few battle scars,scuffs here and there over the years so I'm not too precious. If it all goes in well and I'm happy with the vans new layout I might well start to tidy it up a bit ready for our first big adventure :dance:

 

[The laird]

Yep, that's what I have planned for when it arrives like you say, quick look,assess and attack! Luckily the vans inside has got a few battle scars,scuffs here and there over the years so I'm not too precious. If it all goes in well and I'm happy with the vans new layout I might well start to tidy it up a bit ready for our first big adventure :dance:

It’s called a loved and used veh