Hybrid motorhomes

Moped said:
With the shift to electric and hybrid powered vehicles taking place I would have thought motorhomes are a perfect vehicle for hybrid power as they are large enough to have decent sized batteries installed.

And the batteries could be used for powering up the motorhome accessories when parked up.

As well as having a roof covered in solar panels to top up the hybrid batteries when stationary or even when on the move.

And batteries could of course be topped up when on hook up.

As such it is a slight mystery that motorhome manufacturers seem slow to move in this direction.
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Personally I think that it's a mystery because it's a complete nonsense for road going vehicles to be electric, bicycles yes but beyond that no. I do believe that the electric cars that are available at moment are really just expensive novelties.
 
martinmartin said:
Personally I think that it's a mystery because it's a complete nonsense for road going vehicles to be electric, bicycles yes but beyond that no. I do believe that the electric cars that are available at moment are really just expensive novelties.
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Well you had better get used to it,france 10 years to go and uk 20,then no more piston engines sold or registered,not that it will make much difference to many on here.:scared::lol-053::lol-053::lol-053:
 
trevskoda said:
Well you had better get used to it,france 10 years to go and uk 20,then no more piston engines sold or registered,not that it will make much difference to many on here.:scared::lol-053::lol-053::lol-053:
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It's all talk and won't happen.
 
Fazerloz said:
The whole point is to get away from fossil fuels, how do you intend powering the generator.
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You are missing the OPs point! As a transition to fully electric a hybrid feature allows an electric vehicle to cross gaps in the not yet fully complete recharge grid.
One can imagine my suggestion being possible and as the recharge grid becomes complete the generator and fuel tank can be removed.
 
martinmartin said:
Personally I think that it's a mystery because it's a complete nonsense for road going vehicles to be electric, bicycles yes but beyond that no. I do believe that the electric cars that are available at moment are really just expensive novelties.
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I agree really. It will take a staggering increase in electricity generation to run everyones electric cars, let alone replace everyones gas central heating with heat pumps! The alternative though will be public transport and very little motorhome mileage
 
im with the sceptics.... there just isnt the electric generation capacity available.... how long has it taken to get hinkley c nuclear plant through planning , its still years away from producing anything.
its just totally impractical to recharge vehicles parked on urban streets, youll need a public recharge point in every parking space cos you cant park in youre own spot outside your own house every time.

then theres the fuel tax problem... take the tax on petrol and diesel out of the budget and the governments gone bust, unless they hike taxes on something else to make up the deficit. i cant quite see any pm wanting to face the outcry when he puts fuel duty levels of tax onto electricity... unless your smart meter is going to just tax whats used for vehicle recharging.

cost and weight of batteries is just to great for the power levels needed for heavy commercial vehicles, not to mention recharge times.

as an engineer i feel electric propulsion is more suited to light weight vehicles on short range trips ,not heavyweight commercials running all hours god gave.
 
trevskoda said:
Incorrect as its all done and dusted,you have been taking to much tramadol pain killers which sends you dolaly,now where are mine.:scared::lol-053::lol-053::lol-053:
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What do you think the French car industry will do to the French government in ten years if they haven’t got a viable alternative Trev?

Let’s not forget the French put in legislation that nobody follows, they simply ignore it if they don’t like it.

As someone who has all electric heating in an old damp house I can tell you if we go all electric there will be a lot more folks on the streets as the costs are extortionate.
 
It’s never been the intention for everyone to have electric cars. Private transport will be reserved for the few, EU officials, top MP’s, the most progressive civil servants, and the 0.5 % ers. They don’t want to share the roads with the general public, who are too stupid to have the freedom to drive around willy nilly. Walking or electric bikes for the rest, and don’t go thinking you can go get a horse, they’ll be banned on environmental issues too. :)
 
Nabsim said:
What do you think the French car industry will do to the French government in ten years if they haven’t got a viable alternative Trev?

Let’s not forget the French put in legislation that nobody follows, they simply ignore it if they don’t like it.

As someone who has all electric heating in an old damp house I can tell you if we go all electric there will be a lot more folks on the streets as the costs are extortionate.
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Well its going to happen as the paperwork is sorted in law,as for trucks the yanks have some with 2000hp lecy motor covering a huge millage which when the driver has his break it can be charged to 80%,remember we have 20 years to get it right,and as for power why do you think there are so many wind farms and water turbines getting build all around the country.
Never mind the global warming due to burning fos fuels,the polar caps are melting at a very fast rate due to this,we must stop now and take action before its to late.:scared:
 
Fisherman said:
Let’s draw another comparison the first Diesel engines that were to large for cars, and were used for ships and submarines. Then the technology improved till they could fit a Diesel engine into a truck and trains, then eventually into cars. In Germany today we have hydrogen fuel cell trains running, and it’s reckined we will have them to next decade. Possibly in 20-30 years we may find that hydrogen fuel cell vehicles will be on our roads.
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we already have hydrogen cars on the road over here. Honda make one as do Hyundai and another company i cant
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i dont know where they fill up though because ive never seen a pump. probably just down London.
 
Derekoak said:
I agree really. It will take a staggering increase in electricity generation to run everyones electric cars, let alone replace everyones gas central heating with heat pumps! The alternative though will be public transport and very little motorhome mileage
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Its reckoned you would require three nuclear power stations to produce the energy required for all of these electric vehicles.
But it's not that simple an equation. Our network would have to be upgraded to cope with demand at peak times, and some properties are not suitable for recharging equipment to be installed.
Then where are all of the batteries going to come from, and when they are done were will we put them all.

I think hydrogen fuel cell will be the holy grail, but that is decades away from being available on cars and small commercial vehicles like our vans.
 
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Think what you like but GB and all other countries have put pen to paper and its electric,unless something better comes along soon to change there mind,but if you look around lecy points are all over the place and there is at least 6 within walking distance of my home plus some homes have solar and charge points now.
 
The UK won't have any insurmountable problems with recharging cars, the capacity is pretty much there already, although when all the coal stations shut down that will be a challenge.
When people look at everyone charging their cars at the same time it looks bad, but all of you will recall when we have petrol shortage scares and everyone tries to fill up their car that doesn't work either.
 
Merc realesed a few details of a fuel cell Hymer about a year ago. Not seen one on the road though :p
 
mark61 said:
Merc realesed a few details of a fuel cell Hymer about a year ago. Not seen one on the road though :p
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Hydrogen for the fuel cells will be made by using electricity to hydrolyse water, so it will not make much difference to the generation needed. Although it would ease grid timing load. Cutting all fossil fuels for electricity generation whilst running hydrogen or straight electricity cars and then cutting gas for central heating will certainly be a challenge.
 
colinmd said:
The UK won't have any insurmountable problems with recharging cars, the capacity is pretty much there already, although when all the coal stations shut down that will be a challenge.
When people look at everyone charging their cars at the same time it looks bad, but all of you will recall when we have petrol shortage scares and everyone tries to fill up their car that doesn't work either.
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We can't meet our own demands now without buying from France never mind in the future and they have signed to buy more. As fisherman said we need at least 3 Nuclear plants it we are not going to be held to ransom. They didn't put all them smart meters in for no reason, they will be able to have planned power cuts to homes without harming businesses.
 
Derekoak said:
Hydrogen for the fuel cells will be made by using electricity to hydrolyse water, so it will not make much difference to the generation needed. Although it would ease grid timing load. Cutting all fossil fuels for electricity generation whilst running hydrogen or straight electricity cars and then cutting gas for central heating will certainly be a challenge.
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Sorry Derek, but my post was based on information given out by the government.
It’s reckoned that we would need 3 nuclear power stations to power all of the electric vehicles,

Also the fact that most people would want to charge their vehicles at the same time would put great strain on the grid, which needs to be upgraded to handle this. Hydrogen fuel cell avoids all of these issues. But it still requires batteries
 
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