High visibility clothing, compulsory for motorcyclists in france too

[Byronic]

Same here which most dont know,if you cannot enter from a slip onto main m/way you must give way or stop,father inlaw had to stop when he could not get on with thick lane of trucks gust of the boat so he stopped and a girl thumped into his rear,police done here for careless and told here she should have stoped and f/inlaw was correct in giving way.

Precisely my point Trev Post#30. If your route is blocked, stop. When it
happened to me on a lower powered m'bike I just pulled to the side, those behind
just went by, and they had to stop and wait for a while. I only got moving again
by taking the hard shoulder to get up to "speed" lol either that or wait for midnight!
Quick shoulder checks for the law of course.

 

[Fazerloz]

You've obviously not tried the frontier crossing Gib to Spain rush hour going home.
Hundreds of scooters all knowing where there going and doing it day in day out means not letting
anything get in the way, quicker than Marquez....possibly.

Oh yes I have.

 

[yeoblade]

Anyone who wants a bit of excitement on two wheels needs to try keeping up with locals during rush hour in Rome. Those young girls can teach you a thing or two. Its far more hectic than anything I've ever come across in the rest of Europe. I need to try the far east.

I go to Thailand most years and they ride the scooters with the girl on the back, side saddle and she is on Facebook.
Mind you a lot of bare flesh to get gravel rash, though I've not seen an off yet.

 

[Fazerloz]

I go to Thailand most years and they ride the scooters with the girl on the back, side saddle and she is on Facebook.
Mind you a lot of bare flesh to get gravel rash, though I've not seen an off yet.

The girls on the front are on facebook in Rome. :scooter:

 

[yeoblade]

Same here which most dont know,if you cannot enter from a slip onto main m/way you must give way or stop,father inlaw had to stop when he could not get on with thick lane of trucks gust of the boat so he stopped and a girl thumped into his rear,police done here for careless and told here she should have stoped and f/inlaw was correct in giving way.

There a couple of slip roads leading onto the A303 dual carriage near me which I have seen a few accidents on and almost got hit my self because joining traffic WONT stop, when both lanes a full with summer traffic merging slip traffic needs to be a lot more careful, but they aren't.

 

[Byronic]

I quite like the Far East emphasis on comfort rather than safety, example; the heel and
toe gear lever so much nicer when wearing flip flops, helps prevent the big toe developing
a blister.lol

 

[Fazerloz]

One thing I did pick up in Rome was setting off from traffic lights just using one hand. It feels so strange but they all do it because they have their phones and are using them in their left hands. Very few ride anything with a clutch, and do lock to lock turns between cars and buses, picking their way through traffic with great speed.
Anyway I was impressed, but they are brought up with it and the car drivers just get on with it and don't get angry. I thought Rome would be all horns and shouting but there was none of it.

 

[Fazerloz]

I quite like the Far East emphasis on comfort rather than safety, example; the heel and
toe gear lever so much nicer when wearing flip flops, helps prevent the big toe developing
a blister.lol

Must say I like mine now I am fully used to it and don't have to think about it.

 

[Byronic]

Must say I like mine now I am fully used to it and don't have to think about it.

The heel and toe shift or a blister, or both?

 

[alwaysared]

So you dont wear a seat belt in the wagon then.:hammer:

Of course and an helmet on the bike, although I didn't for 8 years in Florida and survived, when my time comes it won't matter what I'm wearing or not wearing. Back to the hi-vis, maybe we could make a law that all vehicles are painted yellow and that would eliminate the need for the Hi-Vis. I'm just saying some laws are useful and others are silly, there are very good stats to show why the wearing of a seatbelt (and helmet on the bike) are sensible, how many accidents have actually been prevented by wearing a hi-vis jacket on a motorbike? As Channa pointed out the motorists are not going to see you anyway, the headlight on in the day is compulsary but guess what? People still don't see you. If I had a pound for every time somone has pulled out in front of me in the last forty odd years I'd be driving a Dethleffs like Wully :lol-049:

Regards,
Del

 

[Porkie yorkies]

Leathers

Sounds like they are trying to get us Brits away from our beloved black leather and into their penchant for fluorescent coloured nylon bike gear Yeo.

Must admit I did get a real bright pink and white bike jacket bucket in the 90’s, Fieldsheer I think and loved it. Put it on over leathers if it was cold or wore as a casual jacket when we w3re camped up

Don’t mention cyclists, I had a road rage incident on the way up on Friday, feckin idiots lucky one west hurt.

Please don't tell me they were a copy of them crap ones that foggy wore :scared::scared:

 

[Porkie yorkies]

Re, packing for a bike trip

I used to take everything that has been suggested on the safety front plus more clothes than I really needed.
No top box,no panniers just a little storage on the bike for tools, everything else in separate bin liners in a sailors waterproof rollsack
Problems solved, p.s. inflatable warning triangle

 

[Fazerloz]

I used to take everything that has been suggested on the safety front plus more clothes than I really needed.
No top box,no panniers just a little storage on the bike for tools, everything else in separate bin liners in a sailors waterproof rollsack
Problems solved, p.s. inflatable warning triangle

That wasn't a warning triangle.

 

[Byronic]

I used to take everything that has been suggested on the safety front plus more clothes than I really needed.
No top box,no panniers just a little storage on the bike for tools, everything else in separate bin liners in a sailors waterproof rollsack
Problems solved, p.s. inflatable warning triangle ��

Not compulsory but what about a tape measure, you'll need one to ensure that the inflatable
triangle is at least 45metres away in the event of....etc.
Unless you do you're unnecessarily running the risk of a "gotcha you're nicked". :lol-061:


When will it ever end, I'm thinking of carrying a pumped up shapely naked inflatable woman on the back of my
bike, that'll grab the attention of other motorists I'm sure, even some of the women drivers.

 

[Channa]

Own up who wears a fluoro. jacket with POLITEinscribed on it
I'm informed other motorists tend to notice you then, strange I can't think why.
Probably the fairly SAD effect

A subject of many ridicules on the forums ...wannabe coppers and all the rest of it (only printed on the back but hey ho)

I don't own one nor want too, However I have a proper hi viz jacket which doubled up nicely getting into work elf and safety . I also have an ex paramedics waterproof jacket (no lettering)

Did I feel safer ? no ! let me explain why.

Previous to Maureen the moped (sports bike) I owned a pan European and before that a BMW RT 1150 both of which the police use albeit in white with flashing lights and stripes.

Often behind motorists they spotted you and would either drive like nuns or panick and become unpredictable or more unpredictable than normal.

My point is the so called safety gear can and does work against you at times

Channa

 

[Byronic]

Often behind motorists they spotted you and would either drive like nuns or panick and become unpredictable or more unpredictable than normal.

Channa

Do you know that would suit me, at least I would be prepared to keep well away from anyone
I spotted driving like a nun or with unpredictably, I would assume it was the sight of me that was the cause
of their nun like driving or unpredictability. :lol-061:

That makes sense doesn't it? lol.

Forewarned is forearmed.

 

[Deleted member 68397]

Saccadic not a bad idea?

Channa has the right idea, sack a few dicks in the strategic departments would solve a few problems and keep costs down.

 

[Deleted member 52918]

People can say what they want but the fact remains that if you drive, ride, walk on a road at night with no lights, no hi viz, earphones in both ears, car stereo volume up high.

You will get hit by another road user sooner rather than later!

The paramedics won't like you, the police will say it was self inflicted & the courts will take into account any contributory factors.

Most people look favourably on those who do everything they can to be safe, this does not include stupid suggestions like wearing a suit of steel armour, flashing hazard lights on helmets etc.,

But in the end it's up to the individual & they shouldn't be surprised when they get treated differently to those who put safety first!

Phill

Ps., It's about time that driving lessons included teaching people to actually look each way properly & to actually see what's there!

 

[Fazerloz]

Mmmmm flashing lights on helmets now theres a thought. You could have blue ones and they wouldnt be illegal as long as they are not plugged into the bike.