Heating a Berlingo

[RogerV]

Can anyone suggest a non-electric space heater to keep the chill off the interior of a Berlingo camper please?

I've seen some advertised, but some personal experience would be appreciated.

The car isn't a camper conversion. It's a wheel chair conversion with a camp bed "thrown" in the back.

 

[FULL TIMER]

do you mean non electric as in mains power or no electric at all , if you want to use the heating whilst driving as well as when parked up you'll be looking at the likes of Eberspacher / Mikuni / Webasto diesel blown air heaters, if just something to keep the chill off whilst parked up how about one of the small table top bio ethanol fires similar to this La Hacienda Black Stainless Steel Effect Modern Bioethanol Tabletop Fire | Departments | DIY at B&Q we have one in our truck conversion and it certainly takes the chill off in here when we are off hookup and saving battery power by not using the diesel heater. There is also the Origo boat heater /stove which seems a use full bit of kit if not a tad expensive, they make great hob units as well,http://www.elyboatchandlers.com/origo-hobs-and-burners/origo-5100-heatpal

 

[Siimplyloco]

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There is also the Origo boat heater /stove which seems a use full bit of kit if not a tad expensive, they make great hob units as well,Origo 5100 HeatPal

They are expensive because in addition to VAT they have BAT: boat added tax!
John

 

[RogerV]

if just something to keep the chill off whilst parked up how about one of the small table top bio ethanol fires similar to this La Hacienda Black Stainless Steel Effect Modern Bioethanol Tabletop Fire | Departments | DIY at B&Q

That looks very promising. The other item is a tad more pricey than I was considering. :scared:

Thanks FT

 

[donkey too]

I use one of these
Bio ethanol fireplace LUZZI8 Indoor / Outdoor Portable Table Top Fire Burner | eBay
in my Bongo and have now altered it by putting a grill over the flame artea so that a pan can be heated as well. Small, very stable and eco.

 

[Deleted member 5816]

Berlingo Heating

They do not come cheap but Eberspacher deisel heaters can be found in most Berlingo campers, if you intend keeping the Berlingo for a few years it may be worth the expense

Alf

Can anyone suggest a non-electric space heater to keep the chill off the interior of a Berlingo camper please?

I've seen some advertised, but some personal experience would be appreciated.

The car isn't a camper conversion. It's a wheel chair conversion with a camp bed "thrown" in the back.

 

[campervanannie]

That looks very promising. The other item is a tad more pricey than I was considering. :scared:

Thanks FT

I have one of those bio-ethonal heaters and they work a treat I tried it in my shed yesterday as a dry run for the winter

 

[RogerV]

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Am I right in thinking that bio-ethanol gives off nasty fume meaning that decent ventilation is needed?

 

[campervanannie]

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Am I right in thinking that bio-ethanol gives off nasty fume meaning that decent ventilation is needed?

Way i understand it, it is the difference between carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide one kills you one gives of a smelly water vapour bio- ethonal is the latter so you do need a window open, please feel free to correct me if my understanding is wrong.

 

[spigot]

I use one of these
Bio ethanol fireplace LUZZI8 Indoor / Outdoor Portable Table Top Fire Burner | eBay
in my Bongo and have now altered it by putting a grill over the flame artea so that a pan can be heated as well. Small, very stable and eco.

Some sort of fuel must be used in these heaters........ what is it?.............& how much is it?

I wonder if it would be cheaper than a Sunngas Parabolic heater on a low setting run off a Campinggaz 907 refilled from a 19kg propane bottle which is filled at the Autogas pump @ 65.9p per litre.

 

[Deleted member 5816]

do you wish to use the heating whilst on the move or just when parked up, this will affect they type of heating you require

Alf

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Am I right in thinking that bio-ethanol gives off nasty fume meaning that decent ventilation is needed?

 

[molly 2]

Check out catalytic heaters such as Coleman portable or larger 1_2 kw heaters that run on a gas bottle .check eBay all heaters have a down side even ebers and trumatlc cause condensation as they recirculate worm air. Like running a car heater on recirculate. You get instant condensation also. A co alarm and ventilation is a must even people in tents have died .

 

[donkey too]

Some sort of fuel must be used in these heaters........ what is it?.............& how much is it?

I wonder if it would be cheaper than a Sunngas Parabolic heater on a low setting run off a Campinggaz 907 refilled from a 19kg propane bottle which is filled at the Autogas pump @ 65.9p per litre.

i HAVE BEEN USING MINE FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS NOW AND WORKS OUT CHEAPER THAN GAS, EVEN IF YOU CAN FIND A GARAGE THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO REFIL BOTTLE NOW,
Sorry about the upper case.
Bio ethanol can be purchased at most DIY shops also online which is where I get mine now and get a discount as I get 25 ltrs at a time to run my van heater and the table top heater at home.

 

[RogerV]

do you wish to use the heating whilst on the move or just when parked up, this will affect they type of heating you require

Alf

Only when parked. The car's heater works OK - so far. :lol-053:

 

[spigot]

i HAVE BEEN USING MINE FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS NOW AND WORKS OUT CHEAPER THAN GAS, EVEN IF YOU CAN FIND A GARAGE THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO REFIL BOTTLE NOW,
Sorry about the upper case.
Bio ethanol can be purchased at most DIY shops also online which is where I get mine now and get a discount as I get 25 ltrs at a time to run my van heater and the table top heater at home.

If these Bio Ethanol heaters work out cheaper than gas, I'm definitely interested.

Does anyone know how much fuel they burn?, ie. BTUs per litre or whatever classification they use.

 

[campervanannie]

Each time you fill the little tank on the heater it holds 250ish ml and it burns for 2/3 hours.

 

[Byronic]

Check out catalytic heaters such as Coleman portable or larger 1_2 kw heaters that run on a gas bottle .check eBay all heaters have a down side even ebers and trumatlc cause condensation as they recirculate worm air. Like running a car heater on recirculate. You get instant condensation also. A co alarm and ventilation is a must even people in tents have died .

You get interior condensation from a catalytic heater not from Eberspachers or Trumatic or Propex the combustion air for these is taken from the exterior, burnt in a chamber/ heat exchanger then exhausted out through a vent to the exterior. The heated air within the van is completely separate, and can be safely recirculated.

 

[FULL TIMER]

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Am I right in thinking that bio-ethanol gives off nasty fume meaning that decent ventilation is needed?

No nasty fumes but the bi product of burning bio ethanol is moisture so a little ventilation is wise just to keep the condensation down and to replenish the burnt oxygen within the vehicle, I would think just keeping the vents on the dash open would be plenty

 

[FULL TIMER]

Check out catalytic heaters such as Coleman portable or larger 1_2 kw heaters that run on a gas bottle .check eBay all heaters have a down side even ebers and trumatlc cause condensation as they recirculate worm air. Like running a car heater on recirculate. You get instant condensation also. A co alarm and ventilation is a must even people in tents have died .

I don't totally agree with this, the catalytic heaters burn the air within the vehicle and burning gas creates moisture ie condensation as a bi product, no modern vehicles are ever fitted with this type of heater as standard equipment. where as all the air used in the combustion process with Eberspachers and similar heaters is totally room sealed so in effect NO effects of combustion effect the vehicle interior, but in all cases when warm air hits a cold surface condensation will form this may or may not be more noticeable with eberspachers or similar because they can easily heat a small area very quickly but it is nothing to do with the combustion process

 

[sasquatch]

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