Have you thought/realised?

st3v3 said:
The vaccine doesn't stop you getting CV, and passing it on. ( Edit for Sam: At the time of writing, no-one is suggesting the vaccine will 100% stop you passing CV on)

So, as restrictions about meeting other people get lifted the virus will spread through EVERYONE.

That's ok if everyone has had the vaccine, and it's 100 percent effective. Ooops.

So I think there will be a fair few at risk people that because it's not 100 percent are still going to suffer. And then the lot who won't have the vaccine thinking they are not at risk, some will be without knowing it.

Travel: It won't matter a hoot about whether you've had the vaccine or not, you could still be a risk to the country you're entering so unless they've also vaccinated eveyone they'll probably still have restrictions like quarantine in place that you'll have to follow.

I know this seems a bit of a negative post but:

I'd like to have my thinking changed if someone can show me why any of that is wrong.

I like to just know where I am rather than looking forward to that Easter trip to France - it isn't going to happen...

If anyone reading, or people they know, thinks they don't need the vaccine because they probably won't get it. You/they WILL catch CV. Perhaps my post will sway you.

Discuss lol.
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NOT FOR ME! Thank you! It's a flu virus!
 
Being one of the jabbed a few months ago (NHS) I think jabbed pass ports will come in. It will not be our goverment but I can see EU saying you can't come in without one and just to throw something in what about pubs,restaurant, clubs etc having a door policy like ties in the 70's. No passport no entry. . Haven't seen anything yet but wouldent surprise me.
oh and can I take my tin foil hat off yet ?
 
it is not just a flu virus it is a respiratory virus. it has a far higher serious illness and death rate than flu. I notice elsewhere you mentioned a 98% recovery rate, oh dear, statistics of the simplistic. That is an overall figure for the whole population, if you look at the mortality rate in older sections of the population or those with underlying problems it is far higher. there are two excellent factual programs on Radio 4, More or Less which deals with the interpretation of statistics and How to Vacinate the World which gives excellent scientific based information about the need for population vaccination. Or of course you can always resort facebook or Twitter where all the information is well though through and based on scientific knowledge. Had my jab and as yet nobody from Amazon has called me despite the inserted chip.
 
lefty107 said:
Being one of the jabbed a few months ago (NHS) I think jabbed pass ports will come in. It will not be our goverment but I can see EU saying you can't come in without one and just to throw something in what about pubs,restaurant, clubs etc having a door policy like ties in the 70's. No passport no entry. . Haven't seen anything yet but wouldent surprise me.
oh and can I take my tin foil hat off yet ?
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Certainly there is much progress towards vaccine passports. In Europe Greece and Portugal are particularly keen, seeing them as a possible boost for their tourism industry next summer. Link
 
2cv said:
Certainly there is much progress towards vaccine passports. In Europe Greece and Portugal are particularly keen, seeing them as a possible boost for their tourism industry next summer. Link
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Getting vaccine 'passports' makes perfect sense, imho.

It's not a new idea.
You've always need proof of inoculation for various other diseases, depending where in the world you were travelling.
This will just be on a bigger scale. (y)
 
Boris7 said:
No the vaccine will hopefully stop you from dying from it, and that gives your immune system a chance to build anti body’s, over a period of time, we should all become immune as Anti body’s get stronger etc...
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Just like the flu we will need an annual top up to be sure! Mutations are the danger.
 
st3v3 said:
The vaccine doesn't stop you getting CV, and passing it on. ( Edit for Sam: At the time of writing, no-one is suggesting the vaccine will 100% stop you passing CV on)

So, as restrictions about meeting other people get lifted the virus will spread through EVERYONE.

That's ok if everyone has had the vaccine, and it's 100 percent effective. Ooops.

So I think there will be a fair few at risk people that because it's not 100 percent are still going to suffer. And then the lot who won't have the vaccine thinking they are not at risk, some will be without knowing it.

Travel: It won't matter a hoot about whether you've had the vaccine or not, you could still be a risk to the country you're entering so unless they've also vaccinated eveyone they'll probably still have restrictions like quarantine in place that you'll have to follow.

I know this seems a bit of a negative post but:

I'd like to have my thinking changed if someone can show me why any of that is wrong.

I like to just know where I am rather than looking forward to that Easter trip to France - it isn't going to happen...

If anyone reading, or people they know, thinks they don't need the vaccine because they probably won't get it. You/they WILL catch CV. Perhaps my post will sway you.

Discuss lol.
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My understanding is that the vaccine will not stop you catching Covid or passing it on, what it should do is reduce the effects of the virus on your system to the extent that you shouldn’t need to be hospitalised. I believe that once around 85% (this used to be ar 70% but the new strain is more transmissible) of the population has been vaccinated, or has had the virus, then the virus would die out. I think that the U.K. is likely to achieve this by late summer (only my opinion), it may be sometime before European countries achieve it though.
 
Anyone that refuses the vaccine will be in the "vulnerable" group permanently and always at risk of getting seriously ill from covid19.
 
izwozral said:
Anti vaxxer's should have there passports nulled and for the pro vaxxer's they should have a card that shows they have been vaccinated and when the time comes for a new passport it can be shown in there. It should also be a requirement for visas to show you have been vaccinated.
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Vaccine cards or paperwork will probably create a whole new counterfeit industry.
 
Pedalman said:
Vaccine cards or paperwork will probably create a whole new counterfeit industry.
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It must be possible in this day and age to have the information scanned and referenced on a database that shows you have had the jab.? The database is being used this very moment, which is how the NHS knows who has had the jab and who hasn't.

Of course this only works in developed countries but there must be other ways of showing whether you have been vaxxed or not?
 
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