I recognise those bags -- I have two of the same. Did they send you an email order acknowledgement or just SMS? If, like me, they didn't send an email and the SMS order confirmation doesn't describe the item, they will probably try (and might be able) to convince your credit card company that you only purchased a bag as the website from which I ordered mine has now changed. Originally the two options on the product page were for black or blue colour. This has changed to a bag for £15+ or a chair for £227+. FWIW, I suspect that's why delivery took about a month -- so that they could take as many orders as possible during that time before switching the product page to be able to claim we only bought bags.
Looks like they've changed their trading name. FWIW, "amicoud" doesn't feature in the multitude of known aliases. However, amicoud.com was created on 20th June 2020 and nslookup shows that both amicoud and irrperb share the same IP address (23.227.38.65) -- the same IP address is a strong indicator that both our fraudsters are the same entity. Before you contact the credit card company, it might be an idea to talk to Citizens Advice Bureau to check whether the 2015 consumer protection legislation that makes them the joint supplier applies to purchases from outside the EU and also whether there is a minimum value before the card company is liable and, if so, what that value is.
WELL I advertised all our stuff collection only and have no pay pal so all I sold was cash on collection, the buyer could see exactly what they were getting so no problems with anything I sold, I do not like the concept of pay pal as someone else can give refunds of money paid to me and I would have to just lump it or that is my take on things I buy on E Bay using a debit card but never sell on there because as I said no Pay Pal so that is why I use FB and sell localy cuts down on customer range but then I do not care if I sell or not as just down sizing stuff. Having said that I did get emails from folk far away asking me to post items and bank transfer etc. but I declined that everything sold eventually too.
Unfortunately, Chinese sellers and American money transfer companies aren't usually bound by UK law!
You bought on ebay.co.uk? They are selling in the UK. they follow UK law!
That's the thing. I followed a link on FaceBook to the seller's website. It didn't become apparent that they were Chinese until after I'd bought the product. I suspect this will be a hard lesson learned
How would you trade long distance and get paid.
I wrote back noting that this is a known scam and so I would have little to no chance of recovering shipping costs. I advised them that the goods were not what I ordered, therefore unsolicited, and thus considered gifts under UK law. However, as a gesture of goodwill I am content for the seller to collect at their expense and will retain the bags for thirty days to facilitate this, after which I will dispose of them as I see fit. In any case, I expect full reimbursement from PayPal. I'll have to see what they say; but I guess next stop is the credit card company!
