Glencoe facilities being abused

[Wheelie]

Just saw this on Facebook.

 

[Sharon the Cat]

We need a "nuke the minority abusers" button on our dashboards.

 

[caledonia]

They didn’t mention the honesty box. With twenty vans staying overnight there was only £25 in the honesty box

 

[alcam]

I did suggest, some years ago , that members of certain organisations (WC etc) had some kind of accreditation/license . Not sure how workable but worth considering.
Should add I was shot down in flames by a couple of extremely indignant members .
The very thought of it !

 

[RichardHelen262]

What goes through these idiots minds?
Whilst we have people out there working hard to get these places for us, we have these idiots trying to ruin it for everyone else

 

[izwozral]

We can't blame the car visitors this time. When they say campervans, I assume that includes mh's too?
Shame on them.
But what to do?
Confront them?
Shout hurty words at them and get arrested?

Answers on a postcard please.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

They didn’t mention the honesty box. With twenty vans staying overnight there was only £25 in the honesty box

That’s 3/4 of those vans - 15 vans - who didn’t bother paying.

They’re dishonest p*sstakers - you can add entitled and ignorant to the description - and definitely not a “minority” here either!

Trouble is, introduction of more regulated payment facilities will cost more to install, but it’s obviously needed here and more than likely everywhere else where there are existing honesty boxes.

 

[Fisherman]

It just makes me want to

 

[Nabsim]

That’s 3/4 of those vans - 15 vans - who didn’t bother paying.

They’re dishonest p*sstakers - you can add entitled and ignorant to the description - and definitely not a “minority” here either!

Trouble is, introduction of more regulated payment facilities will cost more to install, but it’s obviously needed here and more than likely everywhere else where there are existing honesty boxes.

Someone to knock on the van doors asking for. fiver instead of the honesty box would do it. Wonder if a few full timers known to staff up there could organise such a thing between them?

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Someone to knock on the van doors asking for. fiver instead of the honesty box would do it. Wonder if a few full timers known to staff up there could organise such a thing between them?

It's a nice idea, Neil. Those who don't want to pay would probably lie about it and say they'd already done so. Human nature and all that jazz. You'd be surprised at the people who try and get out of paying, they're not always those with the least money, but quite often those who can damn well afford it!

Would need a bit of thinking through, but anything done on a voluntary basis is always liable to be pretty hit and miss

 

[Fisherman]

It's a nice idea, Neil. Those who don't want to pay would probably lie about it and say they'd already done so. Human nature and all that jazz. You'd be surprised at the people who try and get out of paying, they're not always those with the least money, but quite often those who can damn well afford it!

Would need a bit of thinking through, but anything done on a voluntary basis is always liable to be pretty hit and miss

I hate agreeing Marie, but you only have to look at what’s going on in our world to agree with your summation. There are people out there fighting our just cause, whilst morons behave like this amongst us. Possibly it’s time for some kind of certification scheme, I don’t know.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

I hate agreeing Marie, but you only have to look at what’s going on in our world to agree with your summation. There are people out there fighting our just cause, whilst morons behave like this amongst us. Possibly it’s time for some kind of certification scheme, I don’t know.

I'm not sure how a certification scheme would work, but open minded about it?

Something needs to change, else campervans will just continue being banned from more and more places where banning and/or barriers is the easiest and cheapest option for the local authorities in a specific area to deal with anti-social behaviour. Because that's basically what it is.

It's already been happening for some time now (since the pandemic et al) and will only continue getting worse over time. When people regularly behave like inconsiderate, selfish twonks, then banning and/or regulation/legislation will inevitably follow at some point down the line.

 

[maingate]

A ticket machine with £100 Fine for not displaying a valid ticket might do the trick.

 

[Fisherman]

I'm not sure how a certification scheme would work, but open minded about it?

Something needs to change, else campervans will just continue being banned from more and more places where banning and/or barriers is the easiest and cheapest option for the local authorities in a specific area to deal with anti-social behaviour. Because that's basically what it is.

It's already been happening for some time now (since the pandemic et al) and will only continue getting worse over time. When people regularly behave like inconsiderate, selfish twonks, then banning and/or regulation/legislation will inevitably follow at some point down the line.

Marie, there are inconsiderate car drivers, dog walkers, cyclists, fishermen, hill walkers, and others, yet they never seem to suffer the way we do. I will always stand up for our rights, but when you read stuff like this it makes me wonder why I bother.
I am in no way condoning what goes on, but if we had less pressure in certain places with more places available things would surely be better. I feel that to some extent we are kettled into situations like this, and things have to change. But up here our government is aware of what’s going on and are taking a pragmatic approach, not the reactionary approach we see all over the U.K. from certain councils.

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Marie, there are inconsiderate car drivers, dog walkers, cyclists, fishermen, hill walkers, and others, yet they never seem to suffer the way we do. I will always stand up for our rights, but when you read stuff like this it makes me wonder why I bother.
I am in no way condoning what goes on, but if we had less pressure in certain places with more places available things would surely be better. I feel that to some extent we are kettled into situations like this, and things have to change. But up here our government is aware of what’s going on and are taking a pragmatic approach, not the reactionary approach we see all over the U.K. from certain councils.

Agree. There is a real need for services outwith the standard, 99% privately owned, campsites.

But local governments vary considerably in their approach and it's a post code lottery, like many things in the UK.

I have little faith in councils doing anything pragmatic, sensible or sustainable across the board, let alone think about providing suitable Aire services and safe parking for campervanners. Where I live anyway!

 

[Wooie1958]

We can't blame the car visitors this time. When they say campervans, I assume that includes mh's too?
Shame on them.
But what to do?
Confront them?
Shout hurty words at them and get arrested?

Answers on a postcard please.

OMG Ral .................................................................... how could you incite such violence and hatred on that level

I think you should be deported to the other side of the world, not Australia that`s already full of our criminals but say New Zealand that`s far enough

 

[Fisherman]

OMG Ral .................................................................... how could you incite such violence and hatred on that level

I think you should be deported to the other side of the world, not Australia that`s already full of our criminals but say New Zealand that`s far enough

What do you have against New Zealand Graham.

 

[Thistle]

I dislike honesty boxes simply because they encourage a sizeable minority to decide not to pay, whether it be giving themselves a free parkup or even helping themselves to free produce, on the latter I actually witnessed (and gave the reg number to the home owner) a tatty heap of a camper Van stop beside a roadside display of eggs and jams, he took the entire lot and would probably have taken the honesty box as well if it wasn’t bolted down.

As for parkups free or otherwise the worst freeloaders seem to be the ones that sneak in very late at night then disappear early morning, making lots of noise in the process!

when I pay for a parkup I would always prefer a receipt, proof of purchase no argument then who has and has not paid.

 

[mistericeman]

I dislike honesty boxes simply because they encourage a sizeable minority to decide not to pay, whether it be giving themselves a free parkup or even helping themselves to free produce, on the latter I actually witnessed (and gave the reg number to the home owner) a tatty heap of a camper Van stop beside a roadside display of eggs and jams, he took the entire lot and would probably have taken the honesty box as well if it wasn’t bolted down.

As for parkups free or otherwise the worst freeloaders seem to be the ones that sneak in very late at night then disappear early morning, making lots of noise in the process!

when I pay for a parkup I would always prefer a receipt, proof of purchase no argument then who has and has not paid.

We carry a pack of envelopes in the glove box ...
Honesty boxes or some of our regular farm field park ups where we've been told we are welcome back anytime ...

We just write our reg number on the envelope with payment inside .

Simple,cheap and always means that they know we've paid .

 

[Geek]

Seems to me that the system of accrediting self-contained motorhomes (as used in Australia?) might make sense.
But the easy fix for Glencoe is a NPR system and online payment scheme, so you can pay your fiver upfront online, or opt to pay a £50 penalty charge next month instead.