GAS prices

[bilbao camper]

Here in Spain i pay 11.16euro for a 12kg bottle of propane thats 23.52 litres=0.49euro per litre which is 35p

 

[Steve121]

Join GoOutdoors for a fiver and get your gas there

don;t use camping gaz,keep as backup only,unless you're rich

Depends how much gas you use. A 907 bottle, for which I pay £19 for the gas and bottle, lasts us over a year. That works out at less than 37p per week.

 

[vwalan]

Depends how much gas you use. A 907 bottle, for which I pay £19 for the gas and bottle, lasts us over a year. That works out at less than 37p per week.

and only a quid or less if in morocco.
i still say big bottles are best i changed a flo gas 19kg just before coming away for 27and a few bits .
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i got my local flo gas depot to under cut them . but gas deals direct deliver as well.

 

[Robmac]

Depends how much gas you use. A 907 bottle, for which I pay £19 for the gas and bottle, lasts us over a year. That works out at less than 37p per week.

I'm with Brownie, 6kg costs £18 from Go Outdoors and you just exchange the bottle each time.

However, at 37p per week, not worth worrying about, but a heavier user would notice the difference.

 

[RoaminRog]

Unfortunately, not all of us spend a lot of time in Spain, and we don't have the benefit of continental prices. I am quite sure that in Spain, they give away a bottle of gas when you buy a packet of Cornflakes, BUT over here they don't, and as with everything else over here they use every opportunity they can to rip us off.
Yesterday, I topped my Gas It system up, and paid 61.9p per litre, which is slightly expensive but bearable.
If I had a 6kg refillable Gas It bottle, I would have paid £7.42 from empty. A Calor exchange would by comparison, have been £20.25
I have two 11kg refillables, and from absolutely empty they would cost inro £26 to fill. (at 61.9p/litre)

Calor do not do 11kg bottles, so there is no direct comparison, which is why I have used the 6kg bottles to compare.

Hope this helps.

 

[vwalan]

Unfortunately, not all of us spend a lot of time in Spain, and we don't have the benefit of continental prices. I am quite sure that in Spain, they give away a bottle of gas when you buy a packet of Cornflakes, BUT over here they don't, and as with everything else over here they use every opportunity they can to rip us off.
Yesterday, I topped my Gas It system up, and paid 61.9p per litre, which is slightly expensive but bearable.
If I had a 6kg refillable Gas It bottle, I would have paid £7.42 from empty. A Calor exchange would by comparison, have been £20.25
I have two 11kg refillables, and from absolutely empty they would cost inro £26 to fill. (at 61.9p/litre)

Calor do not do 11kg bottles, so there is no direct comparison, which is why I have used the 6kg bottles to compare.

Hope this helps.

but when in uk use gas deals direct , good prices .
and get a bigger gas locker fitted so larger bottles fit .
in a lifetime you might never get your outlay back if buying refillable bottles compared to their prices .
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have a look see the good uk prices you can get.

 

[Tbear]

Unfortunately, not all of us spend a lot of time in Spain, and we don't have the benefit of continental prices. I am quite sure that in Spain, they give away a bottle of gas when you buy a packet of Cornflakes, BUT over here they don't, and as with everything else over here they use every opportunity they can to rip us off.
Yesterday, I topped my Gas It system up, and paid 61.9p per litre, which is slightly expensive but bearable.
If I had a 6kg refillable Gas It bottle, I would have paid £7.42 from empty. A Calor exchange would by comparison, have been £20.25
I have two 11kg refillables, and from absolutely empty they would cost inro £26 to fill. (at 61.9p/litre)

Calor do not do 11kg bottles, so there is no direct comparison, which is why I have used the 6kg bottles to compare.

Hope this helps.

But it is well over £300.00 (£334.00 basic twin 11Kg) to get a kit from Gas It as opposed to £10.00 at your local recycle centre for a couple of Calor cylinders which may well have gas in them. I am a low volume user so would never recoup the difference.

Richard

 

[Deadsfo]

But it is well over £300.00 (£334.00 basic twin 11Kg) to get a kit from Gas It as opposed to £10.00 at your local recycle centre for a couple of Calor cylinders which may well have gas in them. I am a low volume user so would never recoup the difference.

Richard

not everything is about getting your money back, I just did'nt have the space for a gas bottles storage inside, so went for an underslung tank about £350ish

 

[Tezza33]

Yes that is why I have never understood those that say you need refillable cylinders such as gas it for going abroad, gas in bottles so much easier to find and cheap.

Which is correct unless like me you don't stick to one Country, I might be in six or seven different Countries on my travels so I cannot carry bottles for every one of them, it isn't just about the cost it is the convenience, my underslung tank was fitted 10yrs ago and it has paid for itself three times over

 

[Tbear]

not everything is about getting your money back, I just did'nt have the space for a gas bottles storage inside, so went for an underslung tank about £350ish

Very true. Customer satisfaction is very important when you are talking about your leisure time but my comment was aimed at a discussion about cost so value for money seemed relevant.

Richard

 

[SteveB48]

One of the reasons we wanted refillable is no more lugging gas cylinders around and trying to lift them four feet off the floor into a locker designed by some sadistic devil who would love you to get a hernia!
We found a used Gaslow cylinder in a local caravan dealer, cost £65.00, bought the bits and installed it, it had gas in already. After a trip to Yorkshire we put gas in, it took less than £5.50, and despite using it for heating, cooking and hot water for around eight weeks total we haven't put any more gas in and the gauge still shows full (we haven't been out much this year due to moving house).
If you're over fifty or so refillable must be the way to go, unless you're into weightlifting.
Only problem is, how much longer will log be available in a diesel-dominated market?

 

[Tezza33]

Only problem is, how much longer will log be available in a diesel-dominated market?

I presume you meant LPG not log but even if fuel stations stop selling it (which I doubt, some might stop but the rest will then get new customers so it would be profitable) I would imagine you could still fill up somewhere

 

[Deadsfo]

Very true. Customer satisfaction is very important when you are talking about your leisure time but my comment was aimed at a discussion about cost so value for money seemed relevant.

Richard

Agreed

 

[Deadsfo]

I presume you meant LPG not log but even if fuel stations stop selling it (which I doubt, some might stop but the rest will then get new customers so it would be profitable) I would imagine you could still fill up somewhere

I fill up at an independent supplier who's main customers are those who have free standing room heaters ,so they deliver to them, I'm sure there are lots of companies in other parts of the country like this.I drive in they fill it up for me and the price is competitive .

 

[Johnnygm7lsi]

So does anybody know how many litres I am getting in my 13KG calor propane bottle, still trying to work out if its worth me getting refillable bottles, on another forum it stated there was 26 litres in a 13kg, so at £26.25 its costing me about £1.00 per litre,

 

[n brown]

So does anybody know how many litres I am getting in my 13KG calor propane bottle, still trying to work out if its worth me getting refillable bottles, on another forum it stated there was 26 litres in a 13kg, so at £26.25 its costing me about £1.00 per litre,

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[Obanboy666]

So does anybody know how many litres I am getting in my 13KG calor propane bottle, still trying to work out if its worth me getting refillable bottles, on another forum it stated there was 26 litres in a 13kg, so at £26.25 its costing me about £1.00 per litre,

Yes, 26 litres is near enough correct.
I use my local Calor depot for refilling my 2 X 6kg refillables, virtually 1/2 price versus 6kg exchange cylinders.
Apart from the cheaper lpg its much easier than changing cylinders especially if like my motorhome you had to remove the front cylinder to get to the rear one.

 

[Johnnygm7lsi]

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Cheers Mr Brown

 

[Seannachie]

So does anybody know how many litres I am getting in my 13KG calor propane bottle, still trying to work out if its worth me getting refillable bottles, on another forum it stated there was 26 litres in a 13kg, so at £26.25 its costing me about £1.00 per litre,

The figures you refer to are not quite accurate - see my post above (Page 4, No. 35):

The specific gravity of Calor propane according to Section 9.1 of their HSE Data Sheet is 0.512 at 15 degrees Celsius, so a 13kG cylinder filled to the recommended 80% maximum safe fill actually contains 25.39 litres of gas at that temperature, not 26 litres.

If you follow the advice I gave in post #3 (page 1) and buy from Go Outdoors using a C&CC discount in addition to Go Outdoors' own membership card discount a 13 Kg cylinder of propane will currently cost you £21.26, (i.e. a total 19% discount off the full retail price of £26.25 - see here), the actual cost per litre is £21.26/25.39 litres = £0.84p per litre. However, according to THIS SITE the average weekly price per litre of lpg in filling stations has only fallen below 60p per litre in the last few months, giving a maximum saving, at best, of around 25p per litre over buying your gas from Go Outdoors (I'm not connected to or with that company, BTW). So, given the cost of fitting a refillable system will be anything from £300 - £600 depending whether you go for a single or twin cylinder system, the break-even point will occur only after you've used around 1200 litres (at the lower install figure), but only you know how long it would take you to use 1200 litres of propane (and whether you would still own your van at the end of that time).

Another thing which most folk who fit refillable cylinders omit to mention is that Gaslow recommend that to comply with safety regulations their refillable cylinders are replaced after 10 years - which is why they give a discount for replacements - and I have no reason to believe that this safety requirement does not apply to other makes of refillable cylinders or tanks. This replacement cost should also be factored into your calculations.

For me, living on a budget, the cost of refillables is simply not justifiable, so I'm prepared to keep humping my propane from Go Outdoors, unless I go to France where I use Intermarche's own brand of gas cylinder as it's the cheapest I've found and available almost everywhere (9Kg propane - the biggest I can get in my gas-locker) cost me £16.29 for exchange in June this year). Note that you don't need a French address to buy it, there's no paperwork involved, unlike with Calor, and the 'consigne' - deposit - on the first bottle is only €1 which you never have to pay again.

HTH.

 

[Johnnygm7lsi]

The figures you refer to are not quite accurate - see my post above (Page 4, No. 35):

The specific gravity of Calor propane according to Section 9.1 of their HSE Data Sheet is 0.512 at 15 degrees Celsius, so a 13kG cylinder filled to the recommended 80% maximum safe fill actually contains 25.39 litres of gas at that temperature, not 26 litres.

If you follow the advice I gave in post #3 (page 1) and buy from Go Outdoors using a C&CC discount in addition to Go Outdoors' own membership card discount a 13 Kg cylinder of propane will currently cost you £21.26, (i.e. a total 19% discount off the full retail price of £26.25 - see here), the actual cost per litre is £21.26/25.39 litres = £0.84p per litre. However, according to THIS SITE the average weekly price per litre of lpg in filling stations has only fallen below 60p per litre in the last few months, giving a maximum saving, at best, of around 25p per litre over buying your gas from Go Outdoors (I'm not connected to or with that company, BTW). So, given the cost of fitting a refillable system will be anything from £300 - £600 depending whether you go for a single or twin cylinder system, the break-even point will occur only after you've used around 1200 litres (at the lower install figure), but only you know how long it would take you to use 1200 litres of propane (and whether you would still own your van at the end of that time).

Another thing which most folk who fit refillable cylinders omit to mention is that Gaslow recommend that to comply with safety regulations their refillable cylinders are replaced after 10 years - which is why they give a discount for replacements - and I have no reason to believe that this safety requirement does not apply to other makes of refillable cylinders or tanks. This replacement cost should also be factored into your calculations.

For me, living on a budget, the cost of refillables is simply not justifiable, so I'm prepared to keep humping my propane from Go Outdoors, unless I go to France where I use Intermarche's own brand of gas cylinder as it's the cheapest I've found and available almost everywhere (9Kg propane - the biggest I can get in my gas-locker) cost me £16.29 for exchange in June this year). Note that you don't need a French address to buy it, there's no paperwork involved, unlike with Calor, and the 'consigne' - deposit - on the first bottle is only €1 which you never have to pay again.

HTH.

Thanks for going to all that trouble mate, interesting reading, at my rate of around 2 maybe 3 cylinders a year it would take me years to even break even, only advantage would be the humping, (Don`t do so much of that now LOL) and I`m sure someone at where we get our gas would assist. But if you have plenty funds and not a grip, the convenience would certainly be attractive, thanks again, Johnny.