Gas cheaper

[zipnolan]

may be of use to some out there, i bought this valve to refill my red gas bottles saving £10 each 13kg bottle so it paid for its self after 3 refills.

LPG PROPANE AUTOGAS RED BOTTLE GAS FILLING ADAPTER GPL on eBay (end time 09-Oct-09 10:13:02 BST)

 

[derekfaeberwick]

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Incoming!​

 

[Kontiki]

I think its from the same place I got mine from, the first one leaked a bit through the non-return. I contacted them & it was replaced, they also refunded the return postage. I paid the same but have seen them for under £20 .

 

[Deleted member 919]

Seen quite a few threads on this but would not do it myself (and dont need to as i sell calor) as a risk of overfilling and i think that if the garage saw you filling a valve that was not fixed they would stop you doing it.
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SIMPLE TO USE, CONNECT ADAPTER TO BOTTLE, THEN FILLER GUN, OPEN THE VALVE ON THE BOTTLE, NOW START FILLING, WHEN YOU HAVE REACHED YOU LIMIT, STOP. CLOSE BOTTLE VALVE AND REMOVE FILLER GUN AND ADAPTER.
How do you know when the limit is reached?

 

[Kontiki]

If the bottle is empty then it's quite simple to put the correct amount in, if partially full then you can do it by weighing. Seen abroad where they will refill anything (even a bucket if they could) they seem to fill them up & open the valve until they see vapour coming out (this is dangerous).
Calor prices are so expensive compared to refilling with autogas.

 

[biggirafe]

Seen quite a few threads on this but would not do it myself (and dont need to as i sell calor) as a risk of overfilling and i think that if the garage saw you filling a valve that was not fixed they would stop you doing it.
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SIMPLE TO USE, CONNECT ADAPTER TO BOTTLE, THEN FILLER GUN, OPEN THE VALVE ON THE BOTTLE, NOW START FILLING, WHEN YOU HAVE REACHED YOU LIMIT, STOP. CLOSE BOTTLE VALVE AND REMOVE FILLER GUN AND ADAPTER.
How do you know when the limit is reached?

There has been endless discusion about refilling calor bottles and there seems to be 2 camps, those that will and those that won't. Both sides have good reasons and can put forwards a good argument. Personally I'm against doing it myself as it will invalidate my vehicle insurance and also my local LPG garage will not allow it for the same reason, if there was an accident we would not be insured. I have kids and a large investment to protect.

Those on this forum that do it are no doupt competent people but unfortunatley anyone can currently buy these adapters from ebay and some of those people will be the same idiots I have passing me on the motorway pulling caravans at 85 mph or the idiot I once saw lighting a BBQ in an awning using petrol. Its those idiots that frighten me and no ammount of reasoned argument will persuade me those people should be allowed to do this.

Head down incoming

 

[peppers]

may be of use to some out there, i bought this valve to refill my red gas bottles saving £10 each 13kg bottle so it paid for its self after 3 refills.

LPG PROPANE AUTOGAS RED BOTTLE GAS FILLING ADAPTER GPL on eBay (end time 09-Oct-09 10:13:02 BST)

perfectly safe for anyone blessed with common sense (a rare thing these days)

 

[Deleted member 207]

There has been endless discusion about refilling calor bottles and there seems to be 2 camps, those that will and those that won't. Both sides have good reasons and can put forwards a good argument. Personally I'm against doing it myself as it will invalidate my vehicle insurance and also my local LPG garage will not allow it for the same reason, if there was an accident we would not be insured. I have kids and a large investment to protect.

Those on this forum that do it are no doupt competent people but unfortunatley anyone can currently buy these adapters from ebay and some of those people will be the same idiots I have passing me on the motorway pulling caravans at 85 mph or the idiot I once saw lighting a BBQ in an awning using petrol. Its those idiots that frighten me and no ammount of reasoned argument will persuade me those people should be allowed to do this.

Head down incoming

Darwin's evolutionary laws in practice, 21st Century style.

 

[zipnolan]

may i add .... CARE TO BE TAKEN AT ALL TIMES.
I suppose tha chap that sells calor is totaly against this valve.
wonder why ?
of course filling BBQ's n gas bottles in an awning is very dangerous .... better to get the wife to do it !

 

[ajs]

There has been endless discusion about refilling calor bottles and there seems to be 2 camps, those that will and those that won't. Both sides have good reasons and can put forwards a good argument. Personally I'm against doing it myself as it will invalidate my vehicle insurance and also my local LPG garage will not allow it for the same reason, if there was an accident we would not be insured. I have kids and a large investment to protect.

Those on this forum that do it are no doupt competent people but unfortunatley anyone can currently buy these adapters from ebay and some of those people will be the same idiots I have passing me on the motorway pulling caravans at 85 mph or the idiot I once saw lighting a BBQ in an awning using petrol. Its those idiots that frighten me and no ammount of reasoned argument will persuade me those people should be allowed to do this.

Head down incoming

you great big wuss

regards
aj

.. getting board with this subject.. again..and again....

 

[maingate]

If 1kg of gas is equal to 2 litres, then I am getting 40 litres of gas for £28, in a bottle (2 actually)

That price is from Energas. They have a main depot near me and I buy direct from them. This will give you an idea of the mark up on bottled gas as I am getting it only slightly above the pump price and I have not paid any money out on new installations.

The only drawback is in the winter when usage is high, I could run out and have to pay full whack.

 

[derekfaeberwick]

The only drawback is in the winter when usage is high, I could run out and have to pay full whack.

A plus for using re-fillable, ehm, red bottles is that should you run out away from an LPG station, you can bite the bullet and get an exchange.

Also, you could take the oppotunity to pick a nice new clean bottle!

Jobs a goodun!

 

[John H]

If 1kg of gas is equal to 2 litres, then I am getting 40 litres of gas for £28, in a bottle (2 actually)

I don't know much about gas (which is why I let the experts fit my system for me) but I love playing around with figures. Yours show that you are paying 70p a litre. My local garage is selling LPG at the pump for 55p. Thus you are paying £6 more per 40 litres than I am. This further means that it would take around 70 refills for you to pay for the installation I have got. If you refill/exchange once a month then you would pay for my system in about six years. I've no idea where all this gets us but I enjoyed working it out. Happy travels!

 

[biggirafe]

I don't know much about gas (which is why I let the experts fit my system for me) but I love playing around with figures. Yours show that you are paying 70p a litre. My local garage is selling LPG at the pump for 55p. Thus you are paying £6 more per 40 litres than I am. This further means that it would take around 70 refills for you to pay for the installation I have got. If you refill/exchange once a month then you would pay for my system in about six years. I've no idea where all this gets us but I enjoyed working it out. Happy travels!

Where are the energas dealers I want some of this cheap gas

 

[ajs]

Where are the energas dealers I want some of this cheap gas

cost yer 50 squid there and back in fuel longneck

regards
aj

 

[biggirafe]

cost yer 50 squid there and back in fuel longneck

regards
aj

Yes thats about my luck at the moment.

I have a price back from FES, they have relented and will sell me the kit direct for a single bottle refillable system.

Fill Point Kit 2 £39.83

27 litre (13kg) Valved tank with remote fill £146.19 inc vat

Adapter to allow filling in France £8.48 inc vat

Shipping but expect it to be £12.00 plus vat or less for next working day delivery

Total = £206

Thats not bad. I'm going to order it next week. Should have it fitted before going to Wales. I need to do it now as my bottle is about 1/4 full and it seems pointless spending money on a new bottle.

 

[hobenhobo]

I'm relatively new to campers, so all this discussion regarding filling up of propane bottles is confusing me, am i to understand then that with an adaptor as mentioned i could go into a lpg garage and fill up my empty propane bottle?.Would this (LPG) then work my cooker and fridge etc?

 

[derekfaeberwick]

I'm relatively new to campers, so all this discussion regarding filling up of propane bottles is confusing me, am i to understand then that with an adaptor as mentioned i could go into a lpg garage and fill up my empty propane bottle?.Would this (LPG) then work my cooker and fridge etc?

That's correct.

 

[coventrycraig]

I didnt know about this neither.

Im up for a bit of that!!!



Craig

 

[Norris]

With regard to refilling gas bottles at a garage, the autogas pumps are set to switch off when they reach the maximum pressure aren't they? I would imagine that the pressure in a gas bottle is about the same as in my gas tank so it doesn't seem a problem.