Fuel Queues

new rules come in on april first, all plant on building sites has to use derv instead of red.
 
ricc said:
new rules come in on april first, all plant on building sites has to use derv instead of red.
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Not sure what that means, but guessing it’s removing a cheaper fuel supply for building site plant and machinery? If so, why would they want to do that? 🤔
 
And so to today after the ‘reduction’ in duty

the local Shell has only dropped by 5p and not the full 5p + 1p VAT - robin’ b’stards
 
Wooie1958 said:
www.gov.uk

Reform of red diesel and other rebated fuels entitlement

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I *think* I get it. To do with trying to reduce emissions? Not sure how it will do that in the short term...

So, are pleasure boats still allowed to use red diesel or not? Looks as if they were, but will no longer be able to?
I think 'pleasure craft' in Northern Ireland will no longer be able to use red diesel, but those in the UK still can?

Clear as mud! 🤪🥴🤣
 
myvanwy said:
My understanding of red is, its exactly the same as normal but just dyed as a lower duty paid on it?
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theres also a chemical marker that persists if you manage to bleach the red dye.

looks like their thinking is if construction plant has to use more expensive white diesel theyll use less. reality is the customer pays more for their building work, treasury collects more tax ... green benefit is sweet fa
 
The aim is farmers and other essential users will be able to claim the road tax element back from normal diesel (this will be at source but no sign of a working system yet) and none essential users (such as industrial users who could use electric fork lifts) will not be able to claim such back.

This should encourage industrial users to swap to electric forklifts and stop road users from accessing Red diesel and avoiding tax.

Buses that currently run on Red will now use normal road fuel and claim back the difference.

Pykies won’t be able to buy from farmers and run on Red, but actually exactly the opposite will happen, as without the dye who would know.
 
No one here will be looking for red in the tanks, and many boats were filled before winter, anyway custom officers don't talk much when a breeze block is tied to their legs before a swimming lesson.
 
ricc said:
theres also a chemical marker that persists if you manage to bleach the red dye.

looks like their thinking is if construction plant has to use more expensive white diesel theyll use less. reality is the customer pays more for their building work, treasury collects more tax ... green benefit is sweet fa
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Exactly, they ( whoever they are) couldn't careless what fuel people use. This is all about the transfer of wealth, virtually signalling "progressives" pay one way, dinosaurs pay another, they stash the cash while we argue. Same old same old, you'd think people would catch on, nah!
 
Tesco Wholemeal Toastie, Thick £0.59 ............................................................................................. and very nice it is too (y)
 
No queues at Tesco Cirencester yesterday...

...and unsurprisingly not at the 2 motorway service stations we stopped at en route to home either. Not at 2 quid a litre, robbing barstewards!
 
I shall be checking Tesco Leyland soon however ..................... i never fuel up there after the fiasco many many years back with the silicon contaminated fuel 🤬 🤬
 
Boris7 said:
The aim is farmers and other essential users will be able to claim the road tax element back from normal diesel (this will be at source but no sign of a working system yet) and none essential users (such as industrial users who could use electric fork lifts) will not be able to claim such back.

This should encourage industrial users to swap to electric forklifts and stop road users from accessing Red diesel and avoiding tax.

Buses that currently run on Red will now use normal road fuel and claim back the difference.

Pykies won’t be able to buy from farmers and run on Red, but actually exactly the opposite will happen, as without the dye who would know.
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agriculture is one of the few groups that will still be using red

most industries that can use electric forklifts are already doing so , a lot of the rest are gas powered.

most plant in the construction / earthmoving sectors is on temporary sites with no electric infrastructure to charge machines, theres usually a diesel bowser on site, or all the digger drivers turn up to work with 5 gallon cans of diesel in their vans.
 
And today, passing Tesco I saw their diesel is now 169.9 which is a full 10p cheaper than Shell 1/2 a mile away. Back to Tesco next time for me then (y)
 
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