French speeding ticket GRrrrr

[Deleted member 74361]

To anyone complaining about French speeding fines,I suggest they tell us how much they have saved by using free Aires or do they only see the bad.

French Aires, free or cheap, are so close together that there is no need to go fast. Also if you go through the villages quickly you miss the Boulangerie/Patisserie - shame.

 

[taximan]

My neighbours have just gone to their holiday cottage in France and I'm looking after their house. Went in the other day to discover 4 speeding fines (they asked me to open them), 3 were from October when they were last there and the 4th was on the day they arrived two weeks ago. If I hadn't made them aware, by the time they return, they would have passed the date for final payment before being prosecuted.

 

[witzend]

Bout time the gendarmerie caught up with you high speed merchants.

I think thats where the problem started when they gave up and a private organisation took over the issue of speeding fines and speed cameras and they are catching up the backlog

 

[silverweed]

I have had one speeding ticket and that was in the UK. I was offered a speed awareness course. I was mad at the time but mad with myself for getting it. I was just glad that I had no points and no penalty on the insurance. I thought I was in a 40 zone but it was 30 and I was going 33. My own opinion is pay up, be glad there are no points and be more careful next time. I know it’s made me more careful though having said that last time in France last summer I thought I saw a flash. It may not have at us of course but I can be a little smug as I wasn’t the one driving

 

[yeoblade]

I attended a speed awareness course about 2 years ago. 34 in a 30 limit got me fair and square.
I take quite an interest in driving and took my advanced driving test 5 years ago and passed, what surprised me on the speed awareness course was the number of people who had very little idea of the highway code and current speed limits.
I noticed the people running the course were repeating a lot I'd heard on the advanced driving course I'd taken, as they do this training too and training for company drivers as well.
I think they're a good idea as many people just have to drive, but actually have no interest in driving whatsoever,it's a necessity nowadays, and therefore do not keep up to date with things.
And, there is a 20 limit outside our house and I'm thankful for those who manage to just keep their speed down to 30!

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[alcam]

Hi Colin, not me I was doing 89 kph in an 80 zone. That's 55 mph on a trunk road, I'm hardly a speed king in a 2.0 Peugeot Boxer. It's a blatant scam and another backdoor tax on the motorist and I applaud the Froggies for burning and trashing speed cameras across the country every week. Perhaps if the speed limits were more realistic, there weren't so many cameras and they were situated in problem areas rather than being a blatant cash cow, the motorist might have more respect for them and the authorities.

Just got my notification for exactly same speed , happened in January , 2 hours after arriving in France . Read this thread with interest as I no longer have my van . Will be back in France in June with a different van (hopefully) . Suspect I will pay though I've got a feeling it's probably not necessary .
When it comes to fines , parking tickets and taxes my moral high ground drops to sea level .

 

[Deleted member 74361]

Just got my notification for exactly same speed , happened in January , 2 hours after arriving in France . Read this thread with interest as I no longer have my van . Will be back in France in June with a different van (hopefully) . Suspect I will pay though I've got a feeling it's probably not necessary .
When it comes to fines , parking tickets and taxes my moral high ground drops to sea level .

I am not commenting on your paying or not.

I am interested in the way they are processing the notifications and the information they are using from the DVLA.

It appears that in this case that at the time the notification was despatched the poster no longer had the MH, so at what point in the process did the French aquire the information that the poster was the Registered Keeper? There seems to be a timelag in the system.

Are the French automatically requesting DVLA information at, or just after, the offence? And then not processing the paperwork for 2-3 months?

If this is the case then anyone could claim that they had since sold the MH. Would they then re-check that it was still owned?

Geoff

 

[antiquesam]

We were given a lot of notice that the DVLA would start giving details to foreign police forces but people still get off the ferry and fly, with no regard for the speed limits, presumably because they always have.

 

[alcam]

I am not commenting on your paying or not.

I am interested in the way they are processing the notifications and the information they are using from the DVLA.

It appears that in this case that at the time the notification was despatched the poster no longer had the MH, so at what point in the process did the French aquire the information that the poster was the Registered Keeper? There seems to be a timelag in the system.

Are the French automatically requesting DVLA information at, or just after, the offence? And then not processing the paperwork for 2-3 months?

If this is the case then anyone could claim that they had since sold the MH. Would they then re-check that it was still owned?

Geoff

Would be handy to know these things .
I got my notification yesterday haven't been in possession of van for 2 weeks . Suspect purely a coincidence and not credible grounds for appeal !

 

[RoadTrek Boy]

I don't think ownership of the van now comes into it, ask yourself was I there when the alleged offence occurred and could I have been doing that speed, if the answer is yes, then pay up... Keep to the speed limit and they wont bother you.... SIMPLES

 

[wildebus]

I don't think ownership of the van now comes into it, ask yourself was I there when the alleged offence occurred and could I have been doing that speed, if the answer is yes, then pay up... Keep to the speed limit and they wont bother you.... SIMPLES

Don't be getting all sensible now .....

 

[alcam]

I don't think ownership of the van now comes into it, ask yourself was I there when the alleged offence occurred and could I have been doing that speed, if the answer is yes, then pay up... Keep to the speed limit and they wont bother you.... SIMPLES

Wasn't questioning anything about ownership of van., just idly wondering if I can avoid paying the fine .
Simples as that

 

[mark61]

Wasn't questioning anything about ownership of van., just idly wondering if I can avoid paying the fine .
Simples as that

I'd be doing exactly the same too.
Not saying I would or wouldn't pay it, but I would certainly give it some idle wondering.

 

[Deleted member 74361]

Wasn't questioning anything about ownership of van., just idly wondering if I can avoid paying the fine .
Simples as that

You could write back and say you are no longer owner nor registered keeper of the MH.

Then sit back and see what they do -

a) either drop it or

b) send the notification back to you

If a) problem solved. If b) no worse than now.

Geoff

 

[Channa]

My own twopenneth Alcam is a lot I suspect is dependent on French law the fines wouldn't stand in this country as a general rule, the NIP has to be sent within 14 days of an alleged offence. Thhere is exception for company cars in that unless the driver is named the company secretary personally takes the hit. My point really is under French law is the fine levied at the last known keeper ? a letter as per nicholsong may work

One problem with all this is on the ferry across and return have the "authorities" ties up the reg no and your passport number as part of entry

Channa

 

[alcam]

My own twopenneth Alcam is a lot I suspect is dependent on French law the fines wouldn't stand in this country as a general rule, the NIP has to be sent within 14 days of an alleged offence. Thhere is exception for company cars in that unless the driver is named the company secretary personally takes the hit. My point really is under French law is the fine levied at the last known keeper ? a letter as per nicholsong may work

One problem with all this is on the ferry across and return have the "authorities" ties up the reg no and your passport number as part of entry

Channa

It is a dilemma for us fine dodgers

 

[spigot]

I set off a camera on my way back last June, have not received any notification.

Does this mean I’m in the clear?, I had a nasty feeling that the Gendarmes would have my No & apprehend me on returning this year.

 

[RoaminRog]

I set off a camera on my way back last June, have not received any notification.

Does this mean I’m in the clear?, I had a nasty feeling that the Gendarmes would have my No & apprehend me on returning this year.

I guess you are just lucky Mike, I had a ticket a few weeks ago and and paid it, just in case we were put on the naughty list!

 

[Makzine]

Just received mine on returning home, you wouldn't mind if all departments had the same speed limits but they seem to change at will. Ho hum will pay up and be more watchful in future :wave:

 

[Lee]

A lot of main roads in Derbyshire are 50mph limit Shaun, they have been for years. Some have speed cameras and others have average speed cameras as well. It may be where you are they are more sensible but it isnt only France I can assure you

The difference is that the trunk roads in Derbyshire aren't straight for mile up on mile with no hedges or walls, they are twisty with poor visibility and most people would find it difficult to exceed the limit.
Having driven on both I can assure you it is much simpler to exceed the limit in France than in Derbyshire.
I followed the speed limit, much to the frustration of some of the locals.

Also until you have driven in France since the new speed limits, it is wrong to criticise people who get caught, it isn't as easy as you think to drive at 80kpm on a empty straight road when youre driving a long way.
I have a cruise control and on an undulating road the speed can vary by more than 5 percent.