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Derekoak
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Aeroplanes do not fly close to many people's noses
The misunderstanding is that these pollution regulations are trying to solve a different problem than the real global ,not just Eu, global warming problem. This is about peoples pollution mostly nitrous oxides and particulates being produced in concentration in city streets where there are many people breathing. NOx and particulates get cleansed from the atmosphere reasonably quickly so that any produced by planes or vehicles outside cities are flushed out before high concentrations are breathed in by many people. Old diesels produce most of these pollutants and car exhausts emit really close to city dwellers noses. So planes do emit greenhouses gases and are a serious problem but not much to do with this different problem. The other significant producer of nox other than transport is gas burning for cooking and central heating in cities.
The silly thing is if I go to many European countries I will end up not seeing through a large part of my windscreen for all the clean air stickers and motorway vignettes that I will need. You would think the Eu could have one clean air sticker as all stickers are based on the same data And sensible brits would be happy to use it even after we have left the Eu rather than having our own union jack version.
The misunderstanding is that these pollution regulations are trying to solve a different problem than the real global ,not just Eu, global warming problem. This is about peoples pollution mostly nitrous oxides and particulates being produced in concentration in city streets where there are many people breathing. NOx and particulates get cleansed from the atmosphere reasonably quickly so that any produced by planes or vehicles outside cities are flushed out before high concentrations are breathed in by many people. Old diesels produce most of these pollutants and car exhausts emit really close to city dwellers noses. So planes do emit greenhouses gases and are a serious problem but not much to do with this different problem. The other significant producer of nox other than transport is gas burning for cooking and central heating in cities.
The silly thing is if I go to many European countries I will end up not seeing through a large part of my windscreen for all the clean air stickers and motorway vignettes that I will need. You would think the Eu could have one clean air sticker as all stickers are based on the same data And sensible brits would be happy to use it even after we have left the Eu rather than having our own union jack version.
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Moonraker 2
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Global warming is not rubbish and is very serious. I would love to fit an appliance to my exhaust to capture all these nasty particles if I could.
By the way does a van run on veg oil still produce these dangerous particles.
By the way does a van run on veg oil still produce these dangerous particles.
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Veg oil even worse
Yes worse as far as I know. The dpf deisel particulate filter, fitted from euro 4 onward does catch those nasty particles, the exhaust recycling valve fitted about the same time onward tries to reduce nox by reducing combustion temperatures. Unfortunately mine keeps getting clogged with carbon particles. Later erv s euro 6 fiat, recycle after the dpf. The erv unfortunately can only work when the engine is powerful so I doubt they work so well in stop go city traffic.
Yes worse as far as I know. The dpf deisel particulate filter, fitted from euro 4 onward does catch those nasty particles, the exhaust recycling valve fitted about the same time onward tries to reduce nox by reducing combustion temperatures. Unfortunately mine keeps getting clogged with carbon particles. Later erv s euro 6 fiat, recycle after the dpf. The erv unfortunately can only work when the engine is powerful so I doubt they work so well in stop go city traffic.
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Nor would it work on mine then as I do not have a powerful engine.