Well we moved from the temp holiday site the other day,
was going to spend the first night at callander, few places listed as possible wilding spots,
the one i have seen motorhomes one was just begining to flood, it's been piddeling it down for weeks up here, i should have invested in a water wheel generator instead of
solar panels 
the other carpark is the coach park up a slight hill, no chance of flooding but signs saying you'll be fined 35 quid if you dont park within a parking slot, one half of the parking area has very faint markings, coaches park along them, as do a few truckers, but i could just see we'd be the ones to get a fine for doing the same, even tho the markings havent been renewed as the others have, they are still just visable.
so went up the road to the loch where i'd seen the tent campers droppings all over the carpark, as we went past the first one we could see 2 fresh uns from the road, so i didnt even bother with the next layby up the road on that loch,
instead went to loch earn, i'd checked the place out in the smart car before and found a great wilding spot, half a mile long layby, about 50 to 70 meters of woodland between the road and layby, layby is below road level,
when i checked it out there was a bus conversion and a caravan with it's full awning set up, as well as a bloke in a caravan at the very begining who looks to have been there a while.
caravan with awning had gone when we went to spend the night there, caravan at the begining was still there,
we had the layby to ourselves except for a couple of fishermens vehicles, they had a camp on the shore, it was pelting it down all afternoon, evening and night, yet they seemed to be enjoying them selves,
they had packed up and were just leaving when we got up... ok that was at 1pm!!! we dont sleep too well when our guts and my arthritis is playing up, so when we do finaly get to sleep we sleep our 8 hours.
when they had gone we had a wander on the beach, my dog instiantly found a load of discarded fishing line with 5 of those tripple hooks on it and a ground feeder baiting thing, the line was bright green, and was visable from the road, yet they left it, luckily the dogs paws werent too badly cut up,
seems they'd divided the shore into sections, far section was where they shat, no attempt to bury it, or even flick it into the water for the fish to eat, bog roll in clumps all over that end of the shore.
then was the dumped sleeping bags, soaking wet along with 3 pairs of socks that i had seen them hanging out on a line when we arrived,
a couple of broken folding stools which i had seen them say on,
then a load of plastic knives and forks, they might not have been theirs, but the 3 disposable bbq's deffo were,
their campfire which they couldent get to burn was a freshly chopped down tree, floating in the loch was the logs they'd cut the tree into, the mangled stump of the tree easily located in the woods.
annoying thing is all along the layby are large bins, there were 2 of them right where they had parked their vehicles, it makes me wonder if those kinds of people leave the mess deliberately.
Appart from them, that big layby is excelent for wilding, silent at night, we counted about 5 vehicles an hour along the road after 8pm.
