filthy tent campers

gazznsam

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so tent wild camping is allowed in scotland, but not motorhome, who thought that silly one up?

a motorhome has full facilities onboard, waste water is collected in a tank, same with the toilet, there's no need to drop anything on the ground in a motorhome.

tents on the other hand......

we read the warnings about wandering in the woods near tent campers as they do as the bears do, i really assumed they would take a shovel and bury it.

we have been driving around some of the lochs east or loch lomond recently, and on almost every pull in to the shore we found a string of tents on the 'beach'

then in the CARPARK there were turds, human turds, as i dont think dogs wipe their arses on pink bog roll.

one of the carparks there was at least 10 turds in different areas, by the same tent or even person as by each one was a pile of streamers... the same pink bog roll,
another carpark we could see cars had parked over turds, one place there was a big footpring in the middle of one,

some dirty git had even done one on the steps down from the carpark to the shoreline.

****, what is up with these people, in all locations there were woods very close by with plenty of shelter, and ground that would be easy to dig a little hole and bury it in, but no, they have to do it in the carpark,

even city tramps find somewhere out of the way to do that.

at least with most motorhomers, the only thing they leave behind are tyre prints,
 
gazznsam said:
so tent wild camping is allowed in scotland, but not motorhome, who thought that silly one up?

a motorhome has full facilities onboard, waste water is collected in a tank, same with the toilet, there's no need to drop anything on the ground in a motorhome.

tents on the other hand......

we read the warnings about wandering in the woods near tent campers as they do as the bears do, i really assumed they would take a shovel and bury it.

we have been driving around some of the lochs east or loch lomond recently, and on almost every pull in to the shore we found a string of tents on the 'beach'

then in the CARPARK there were turds, human turds, as i dont think dogs wipe their arses on pink bog roll.

one of the carparks there was at least 10 turds in different areas, by the same tent or even person as by each one was a pile of streamers... the same pink bog roll,
another carpark we could see cars had parked over turds, one place there was a big footpring in the middle of one,

some dirty git had even done one on the steps down from the carpark to the shoreline.

****, what is up with these people, in all locations there were woods very close by with plenty of shelter, and ground that would be easy to dig a little hole and bury it in, but no, they have to do it in the carpark,

even city tramps find somewhere out of the way to do that.

at least with most motorhomers, the only thing they leave behind are tyre prints,
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How do you know for sure it's tent campers leaving poo in the car park?
I can't imagine many people would be happy to squat down in a public carpark and err.. well do the business.

Sounds more like the emptying of porta potties or thetford loos from vehicles.
 
gazznsam said:
so tent wild camping is allowed in scotland, but not motorhome, who thought that silly one up?

a motorhome has full facilities onboard, waste water is collected in a tank, same with the toilet, there's no need to drop anything on the ground in a motorhome.

tents on the other hand......

we read the warnings about wandering in the woods near tent campers as they do as the bears do, i really assumed they would take a shovel and bury it.

we have been driving around some of the lochs east or loch lomond recently, and on almost every pull in to the shore we found a string of tents on the 'beach'

then in the CARPARK there were turds, human turds, as i dont think dogs wipe their arses on pink bog roll.

one of the carparks there was at least 10 turds in different areas, by the same tent or even person as by each one was a pile of streamers... the same pink bog roll,
another carpark we could see cars had parked over turds, one place there was a big footpring in the middle of one,

some dirty git had even done one on the steps down from the carpark to the shoreline.

****, what is up with these people, in all locations there were woods very close by with plenty of shelter, and ground that would be easy to dig a little hole and bury it in, but no, they have to do it in the carpark,

even city tramps find somewhere out of the way to do that.

at least with most motorhomers, the only thing they leave behind are tyre prints,
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Oh well, at least it is bio-degradable:eek: Not like some of the rubbish. Good job you don't have a dog (do you?) or you would be blamed:D

Can't just blame tenters though. Disposable nappies tossed out from cars etc. My dog came off a beach once with a used syringe stuck in it's back leg:eek: I always wear boots or shoes when walking beaches now.

john
 
Public Convenience

This happens all over on Car Parks and Lay-bys not just in Scotland ever since the demise of the old Public Convenience just don’t stray from the tarmac. I cannot imagine anyone emptying a toilet on a car park :eek:

Alf
 
I think the problem of "filthy tent campers" lies with the fact that many of them are not "real" campers at all. They buy a cheap tent etc from Argos and the like and off they go - haven't a clue about how things work, "how to camp" or the country code etc.
And they probably don't care either, provided they've packed enough cans & bottles.

They give "proper" campers a bad name. I've camped in tents for years in the car, on the bike and backpacking (why is it that round the world travellers have now claimed this title?). I always carried/carry a trowel in my rucksack for the times when nature calls so I can bury my poo as "standard practice"

Frank
 
It was funny at the time but I saw an old dear wiping her dog with pink toilet roll recently!
 
Hi blobb140, Boxerman is spot on with what he says. I,m not defending anyone, but everyone with a motorhome or anything else for that matter, should steer well clear of the lochs near to glasgow during the late summer and especially when the school holidays are on. Hordes of kids with a cheapo tent and sod all else, apart from as much alcohol as they can carry, get the bus. 40 mins later their in parentless heaven(not that they care) and anything goes. Learnt this lesson a long time ago. If you want to go to loch Lomond use a site, but I personally head for somewhere thats not on a bus route...Bob
 
What about coaches - My mother was on a coach trip a couple of years ago (in England) and the driver emptied the coach loo in the woods along. Can you beat that!!
 
If he was a Scottish driver then he was probably out for revenge :)

Frank
 
gazznsam said:
so tent wild camping is allowed in scotland, but not motorhome, who thought that silly one up?
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The Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2003 establishes a statutory right of responsible access to land and inland waters for:
outdoor recreation, including wild camping,
crossing land, and
some educational and commercial purposes

wild camping is completely legal and well accepted. the current access legislation is explicit about people's right to camp on hill land - usually more than 100 metres away from a public road, some landowners do take exception, but thankfully they are few and far between. if you're near a dwelling it's also a good idea to ask permission and not just set up camp on their doorstep!
for more information go to> Scottish Outdoor Access Code - Welcome to the Outdoor Access Scotland Website
 
is this really an issue

This is a problem that beaches around the country and the world have suffered for years, when people visit they make a mess. While visiting countries around the world the locals get over it and provide important jobs cleaning it up. There is always a few that 'go over the top', that is the nature of being human. It could be also be said that the locals, 'milk' their visitors at every chance they get, why not provide a little payback and keep areas clean. Most beaches that are popular will be cleaned every morning by local government simply to maintain the tourism. Scotland certainly has little to offer beyond tourism in those more remote areas, so all the funds 'milked' from their visitors a small part could go to cleaning up the area.

If people are going to the toilet in the street or on steps perhaps there should be a public toilet placed close by, to many are being closed to save money instead of providing important facilities to the public!
 
Being both a tent and van camper i think the problem goes both ways. I know of folk from both 'camps' who think nothing of 'relieving themselves' where-ever they feel like doing it at the time.
Personally, I always seek out the nearest public convience before we decide on where to pitch/park.
I think its a case of whether or not the individual themselves has any principles or plain repsect for both the area and others using it rather than whether they're camping under canvas or a tin roof!
 
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nowadays said:
Being both a tent and van camper i think the problem goes both ways. I know of folk from both 'camps' who think nothing of 'relieving themselves' where-ever they feel like doing it at the time.
Personally, I always seek out the nearest public convience before we decide on where to pitch/park.
I think its a case of whether or not the individual themselves has any principles or plain repsect for both the area and others using it rather than whether they're camping under canvas or a tin roof!
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Absolutely true. There are always people who think only of themselves and have poor hygene habits. I refer to the like of the German couple mentioned earlier in this thread.

With regard to toilet disposal, it is more likely however that a motorhome, even a van conversion, will carry it's own toilet facilities than a tent camper is able to. In wild country there is nothing wrong with the "bury it" system of disposal providied it is done properly. Years ago I even visited a CL where that was the designated method required by the site owner. It is not impossible to find somewhere legitmate to empty an elsan every couple of days.

Tco
 
Tco said:
Absolutely true. There are always people who think only of themselves and have poor hygene habits. I refer to the like of the German couple mentioned earlier in this thread.

With regard to toilet disposal, it is more likely however that a motorhome, even a van conversion, will carry it's own toilet facilities than a tent camper is able to. In wild country there is nothing wrong with the "bury it" system of disposal providied it is done properly. Years ago I even visited a CL where that was the designated method required by the site owner. It is not impossible to find somewhere legitmate to empty an elsan every couple of days.

Tco
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Tco I am at odds to find your Quote '' I refer to the like of the German couple mentioned earlier in this thread.''


Alf
 
It's a year since we travelled through Scotland and we did wild-camp exclusively and we did not see any rubbish where we went. We had no hassles at all, but my clear understanding of the land access act is that apart from a vehicle owned and operated by a disabled person, the act doesn't address access by motorhomes and since the act expressly defined what is permitted, by implication anything else is not permitted.

We did pick up a pamphlet detailing special conditioners for itinerant travellers but that was not directed at motorhomers.
 
Hi all, Ive been up in Scotland for the last three weeks, at the moment Durness, Sutherland. Thursday I visited the Assynt tourist info office in Lochinver. I specifically asked the lady in charge of the office what their official policy is towards motorhomes camping wild, as their are so many visitors to this area from all over europe in motorhomes who camp wild predominately.
Her reply was this, wild camping by motorhomes is allowed(she was talking about her area of Assynt)because in Scotland there is no law of trespass, as long as you do not cause damage or interference to the landowner. In fact they would need a sheriffs order to move you on, and as this has only been done to evict people who have stayed in a spot for years, making the camp their home. It would not apply to a couple of days parked for camping.....Bob
 
Right to Park??

Bob with respect and remember this is Scotish Law we are talking about on Private land you have no right f access with a motor vehicle that is unless you and the vehicle are registered as disabled take a look at this site

http://www.outdooraccess-scotland.com/upload/Full Access Code.pdf
note John Thompsons post 13/08/2009
That said if a large bloke with dogs and blackthorne or similar tells you to get the h*** of his land are you going to argue whilst on holiday and try to argue the finer point of law lets be fair if you require to park ask permission
there are enough so called wild campers anoying local people all over this one or two persons gets the rest a bad name this is why height barriers and soil banks are blocking some spots now IT is not only travellers causing the problem.
we go on our tavels to enjoy ourselves not to infuriate other people we have been motor caravanning for 40 years and 5 years before that self build vans
Alf
 
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