Ever ignored no camping etc. and then been fined?

Have you PERSONALLY been fined when you ignored overnight restrictions?

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Fought a parking ticket in my car last year, never heard anything since then, I must have beat them. :)
 
Got one in Blackpool promenade years ago but that was for street parking during the day my van was taking up two spaces and I only paid for one and there was a mile of empty spaces in front and behind me. I never paid it just kept binning the threatening letters and never replied or acknowledged them. I was told that they couldn't chase you in Scotland for a parking fine in England and they eventually gave up. Don’t know if this is true but it worked
 
Parking companies are good at threats and get away with it, you try sending threats the boys in blue would be round to have a word.
 
Yes. Ilfracombe - can't remember the year but probably abouit 2005, maybe earlier. I wrote about it on here - A long and mysterious tale - and it was the one thing that started my campaigning. The sign simply said "No Overnight Parking" and, frankly, I didn't believe it - the car park had quite a few cars parkign overnight and I saw no difference being a van. After three or maybe four nights I woke to a PCN on the driver's window but, strangely, none of the cars had one.

I used North Devon's appeals procedure and demanded proof that I'd broken some law. Novice at that time about off-street parking orders and TROs andthe council gave in surprisingly quickly. Made me wonder becasue I hadn't actually asked for a cancellation - only proof of an offence.

That was the start of it all and I very quickly became aware that many council signs were erected without authority (and thanks to a distinguised member - Alf -on here with his work on the Highland Council's signs) and that councils would quite happily lie about, among other things, public complaints, and what rules, signs and other things had a factual basis.

I think for years councils had been able to lie and get away with it but, from some time in the nineties or the 2000's this became difficult as people became aware of legislation being publishe don the internet and things lile the Freedom of Information Act and Data Protection Laws.

I spent last night in a large car park, empty after dark, with an Angus Council sign that read:

No Overnight Parking

Management Rules (in small font at bottom right corner of the sign)

I decided to ignore the instruction...
 
"Overnight" has no meaning. When does night start and end? The council must define it. Then there are other reasonable arguments. The one where you arrive and depart twice in a defined period. Not council - but this argument (that I was there twice) has been successfully used in supermarket car parks where supervision is by camera with a limit of, say, two hours . (Argument is a possibly faulty camera or procedure not recording properly the inside departure and subsquent arrival. Probably more expensive fore the parking company to provide the proof than to recover the debt). Court of law doesn't come into it. Parking was decriminalised as an offence a long time ago. You go to court because you haven't paid a debt not for a crime of parking. You go to an indepedent adjudicator in te appeals procedure who decides.
 
Just for fun I searched for long and mysterious tale. And it's still there. https://wildcamping.co.uk/threads/a-long-and-mysterious-tale.11681/

I quite enjoyed reading it again but it proved my memory slightly faulty but in the ten years or so since, attitudes have not changed much. If yoiu read it then it's not only a long and myserious tale but a long and mysterious thread.
 

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