Do You Weigh Your Motorhome ?

[zzzac]

Forgive my ignorance as i am a little confused with this weight issue, my new autotrail delaware states on the registration document that it is 4500kg doesnt mention how this is split on the axles on this document. Now Autotrail website says the vehicle is 4250kg with further details below
MEASUREMENTS
Max. authorised weight (kg) 4250kg
Max. front axle loading (kg) 2100kg
Max. rear axle loading (kg) 2400kg
Max. gross train weight (kg) 5500kg
MRO - Mass in Running Order (kg) 3640kg
Max. towing weight (kg) 1250kg

how is the authorised weight different to the actual weight of the vehicle as on the reg doc? if i get stopped which one will they take notice of? i am assuming it will be the 4500kg and not the 4250kg!

This is so blinking complicated, need to call up the local council in basingstoke and see where i can get it weighed, did find one but it was down some narrow lanes which i will give a miss, the tip is not that far but they dont seem to be listed on the weigh bridge list site.

Thanks

 

[Obanboy666]

No expert but my newish Swift has an info plate with all the weight details stamped into it, cannot remember where it is exactly but I have seen it. I would be surprised if your motorhome hasn't got one and I would reckon that the plate is what the authorities would go off when weighing the vehicle if you were pulled over for a check.

 

[sak]

If you call in the local scrapyard and ask if they will weigh your vehicle on their weighbridge would be a better option than going to a public weighbridge as VOSA are now self funding they are out to get everyone and motorhomes are an easy target.

 

[yeoblade]

If you call in the local scrapyard and ask if they will weigh your vehicle on their weighbridge would be a better option than going to a public weighbridge as VOSA are now self funding they are out to get everyone and motorhomes are an easy target.

Tried that, based on the weight he offered £112.00 :sad:

 

[delicagirl]

I am a real camper virgin and this is the first time I have read about weights.... .... I have a Mitsubishi Delica JB500 imported from Japan - there are very few of them around - and I have no paperwork for it, no user manual and have not been able to find one.

I have no understanding of this weight issue... please could someone give me an "idiots guide" please - or refer me to a www-link which might help. Thank you.

 

[hextal]

There's a free weigh station open 24hrs a day just south of Leeds (obviously not much use to too many people - but good for locals).

It's just off the M62 Jnct 27.

 

[hextal]

I am a real camper virgin and this is the first time I have read about weights.... .... I have a Mitsubishi Delica JB500 imported from Japan - there are very few of them around - and I have no paperwork for it, no user manual and have not been able to find one.

I have no understanding of this weight issue... please could someone give me an "idiots guide" please - or refer me to a www-link which might help. Thank you.

You'll have a maximum gross vehicle weight and maximum axle weights sticker/plate somewhere (hopefully). Possibly in the driver's door frame or engine bay. You just need to not be heavier than these when you've filled the 'van.

 

[zzzac]

Ok, found the stickers, but i have 3

One says AL-KO and reads the following
4500KG
6000KG
1-2100KG
2-2400KG

the second sticker is from autotrail and says
Third Stage Conversion
4500KG
6000KG
1-2100KG
2-2400KG
3-0000KG

the third says Fiat Group Automobiles S.P.A
4250KG
6250KG
1-2100KG
2-2400KG

Still confused as 2 of the stickers are saying 4500KG and the third is saying 4250KG

Which is correct?

 

[Wooie1958]

Ok, found the stickers, but i have 3

One says AL-KO and reads the following
4500KG
6000KG
1-2100KG
2-2400KG

the second sticker is from autotrail and says
Third Stage Conversion
4500KG
6000KG
1-2100KG
2-2400KG
3-0000KG

the third says Fiat Group Automobiles S.P.A
4250KG
6250KG
1-2100KG
2-2400KG

Still confused as 2 of the stickers are saying 4500KG and the third is saying 4250KG

Which is correct?

Stickers 1 & 2 are correct.

Sticker 3 was the original specification when built and then AL-KO uprated it to 4500KG.

 

[zzzac]

so it will be weighed as 4500KG which means i can take 250kg more than what Autotrail are leading me to believe?

Thanks

 

[Wooie1958]

Yes, if you go back to your post #41 you will see the MRO as 3640Kg.

Take that figure away from the gross weight of 4500Kg and the payload is 860Kg approx.

Any extras like bike racks, satellite. solar panels etc. eat into the payload.

 

[zzzac]

Yes, if you go back to your post #41 you will see the MRO as 3640Kg.

Take that figure away from the gross weight of 4500Kg and the payload is 860Kg approx.

Any extras like bike racks, satellite. solar panels etc. eat into the payload.

Thanks for the info, that is quite a lot left. i will get it weighed just to be on the safe side now i know what i need to take notice of.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Sharon the Cat]

"Vehicles are restricted by a maximum weight, usually specified on the manufacturer's plate. Both the police and trading standards officers may stop and check vehicle weights. The maximum fine for an overloaded vehicle is £5,000."

Ouch

 

[basa99]

weight of vechile

I had my motorhome weighed when i last had it MOT'd.
Part of the test is to weigh the front and rear axles so the machine can work out the brake efficiency for the brake test. The test calculates the weight VS brake efficiency to see if it meets the legal requirement
Obviously you can then get the total weight by adding the two together.

The tester came up with the suggestion and it works out fine all I do now is ask for the details when they test it.

 

[oldpolicehouse]

I was interested in this thread as I'm about to fit a bulk gas tank.
Went this morning to my local weighbridge and was pleased to find that with a full fuel tank and full water tank(130L) and myself in the cab I still have 400KG to go at. Nice chap did overall weight and both axle weights and charged me £6. Thought that was OK.But then I do live up north. Strangely my previous van ,a smaller overall length low profile from the same manufacturer Rapido was heavier than my current A class.
Anyway now I know where to fit my gas tank

 

[antiqueman]

initials hate them

Yes, if you go back to your post #41 you will see the MRO as 3640Kg.

Take that figure away from the gross weight of 4500Kg and the payload is 860Kg approx.

Any extras like bike racks, satellite. solar panels etc. eat into the payload.

So mr knowledgeable wooie
My alko plate says
gvw I presume gross vehicle weight = 3400
gtw I have no idea unless its train weight or trailer weight = 4800

axle 1= 1690
axle 2= 1900 added together is = 3590

So question how many pork chops can I carry in the shed and if the gtw is not the trailer weight I can pull, where do I find that, also why do the axle weights come to more than the gross vehicle weight :beer::beer::nicethread::danger:

 

[mark61]

So mr knowledgeable wooie
My alko plate says
gvw I presume gross vehicle weight = 3400
gtw I have no idea unless its train weight or trailer weight = 4800

axle 1= 1690
axle 2= 1900 added together is = 3590

So question how many pork chops can I carry in the shed and if the gtw is not the trailer weight I can pull, where do I find that, also why do the axle weights come to more than the gross vehicle weight :beer::beer::nicethread::danger:

Need to get it weighed to find out how many pork chops you can carry.
GTW is Gross Train Weight in Europe
The sum of the axles is always slightly more then GVW.

 

[Obanboy666]

Just called where I get my coal from and he will weigh my motorhome for no charge. So will load up tomoss with fuel, full water tank, spare tyre, genny, drinking water container and last but not least the dog lol.
Van is already full of tinned food and clothes so in theory apart from my son who's about 70kg van will be as heavy as it ever will be.

 

[antiqueman]

europe

Need to get it weighed to find out how many pork chops you can carry.
GTW is Gross Train Weight in Europe
The sum of the axles is always slightly more then GVW.

yes thanks but I need to know what weight I am aiming at :rulez:are they european rulez.

edit on reading further my maximum weight is the axle weights added together, is this correct?

 

[Polar Bear]

I had my motorhome weighed when i last had it MOT'd.
Part of the test is to weigh the front and rear axles so the machine can work out the brake efficiency for the brake test. The test calculates the weight VS brake efficiency to see if it meets the legal requirement
Obviously you can then get the total weight by adding the two together.

The tester came up with the suggestion and it works out fine all I do now is ask for the details when they test it.

Not sure that works? I'd still get it weighed.
A MOT brake tester works out the percentage of brake efficiency to axle weight and that's the only reason it needs to weigh the axle.