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Hi Campers,

We are starting to plan our trip in September and are looking to tour up to Holland Germany and Denmark as we have spent the last three year going south and would like to see more of Europe.Has anyone traveled that way this time of the year and how is the weather.I would like to get up to Denmark and the north of Germany on the Baltic if weather holds before heading south October onwards.Any ideas please.

Snowbirds.:wave::wave:
 
Went to Denmark last year for Summer Solstice. Stayed at some really nice site at Bork Havn and in Ribe, another at Fjerritslev and another at Skagen. At all the sites we used the facilities were of a very high standard and fairly reasonable too, although there is opportunities for wild camping.
We travelled up the west coast and, IMHO, it is well worth seeing, drive between the lakes and the sea and enjoy miles and miles of unoccupied beaches on the other side of the dunes. Take bicycles because cyclists and pedestrians have right of way everywhere. Go to Skagen and walk up to Grennen where the Baltic and the North Sea meets for an almost spiritual experience and enjoy the beautiful lighting.
Costs are not bad, I've certainly paid more for food and drink in this country and there are no toll roads. One thing to watch is if you use the ferries on the lakes. I was asked how long my van was, "just over 6metres" I replied, the guy taking the fares asked me twice more before the penny dropped, "yes, it's 6 metres" says I. He then told me the price doubles for vehicles over 6 metres!
The people are warm and friendly and speak pretty good English, I didn't go to Copenhagen as we ran out of time but we will certainly be returning to Denmark!

If you go to Germany, the Baltic is lovely as is Plau am See. I can't comment on sites as I visited this area on my motorbike and stayed in hotels as I will be doing again this September.
 
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" Camping in Denmark "

When I went to Denmark last year I was directed to an Aire in Ribe and immediately confronted by several large “ NO CAMPING “ signs. The car park had a place for emptying your Loo and waste water and fresh water tap. I asked in the Tourist office if I could stay in the car park overnight and was told ' Yes of course '. on inquiring further I was given the following explanation of the meaning of ' No Camping ' in Denmark.

If your vehicle is in a state that it can be driven away immediately then you are not ' Camping '. if however you have a step out or window open then you are ' Camping ' . putting a chair out or drinking a cup of coffee on a nearby bench means that you are 'Camping'.

The test appears to be if a person were to tap on your window and ask you to move on could you drive with no preparation. In this case you are simply resting to avoid driving when tired.

I never had any trouble finding places to stop and get water or empty my loo.

Have a great trip.
 
Hi snowbirds,

you are really courageous not travelling to the bright and sunny Bavaria but to the land of the gloomy moores and dark forests where even the spirits of Varus and his legionairies are wafting through lonely wildcamper´s night. The black look of the frisian pirats will track your M/H through the land of the Anglo-Saxons up to the northern land of the cruel Vikings :scared: :scared: :scared:

Oh no, it´s only a joke, Aldi, Lidl and McDonalds took over a long time ago. :lol-053:

The weather in the nothern part is unpredictable, in Sep/Oct you may have a real nice late summer but as well rainy days, i guess the weather is similar to middle England up to south Scotland, and often windy. I would not bother about and it´s rapidly changing especially in Schleswig-Holstein between the North Sea and the Baltic Sea. For me it´s the best travel time of the year.

But i think you will travel through a very interesting region with very friendly people. They are quite different and ......not Bavarians. :lol-053:

In case you have questions or need some help feel free to ask or give me a PM.

Bernd
 
Hi rottiontour,Bernd,

I think McDonalds may worry us more than anything else,we live in East Anglia and had a few battles with the Anglo- Saxons and the Vikings a few years back and may well have their blood in our veins,so it may be time to return the favor.We have traveled in other parts of Germany and I like the driving and lack of tolls roads.I am not sure where Bavaria starts and stops but on our last trip we traveled from Ghent in Belgium to Kehl and down the Rhein and stayed in Staufen and on to Lake Constance staying at Lindau on the lake before going into Austria and Italy but we traveled in June and July that year.I have been looking at the maps and the latitude and as you say it is very much like the middle of England so the weather could be good for September and start to run out mid October.Do you think it would be better to try this route earlier in the year,say in June.We both like to travel but the wife does like some sun and as we travel for three months I have to keep her happy as well.Thanks for your help.

John. Snowbirds.:cool::drive::cheers:



rottiontour said:
Hi snowbirds,

you are really courageous not travelling to the bright and sunny Bavaria but to the land of the gloomy moores and dark forests where even the spirits of Varus and his legionairies are wafting through lonely wildcamper´s night. The black look of the frisian pirats will track your M/H through the land of the Anglo-Saxons up to the northern land of the cruel Vikings :scared: :scared: :scared:

Oh no, it´s only a joke, Aldi, Lidl and McDonalds took over a long time ago. :lol-053:

The weather in the nothern part is unpredictable, in Sep/Oct you may have a real nice late summer but as well rainy days, i guess the weather is similar to middle England up to south Scotland, and often windy. I would not bother about and it´s rapidly changing especially in Schleswig-Holstein between the North Sea and the Baltic Sea. For me it´s the best travel time of the year.

But i think you will travel through a very interesting region with very friendly people. They are quite different and ......not Bavarians. :lol-053:

In case you have questions or need some help feel free to ask or give me a PM.

Bernd
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Hi John,

yeah, McDonalds is priority target, i agree, but iaw the "overall tactical situation" it could be sometimes advisable to do a pact with the enemy e.g. in order to use his free wifi :lol-053:

The travel time June still is low season and often it is a little bit cold in the north, 20 C and cloudy, as it was this year and often the real hot summer explodes beginning of July till end of August.
And starting in June you will run into the holiday season which lasts from beginning of July till beginning of September. Could be busy on aires then.

Although June is not bad we prefer to start travelling mid of September cause the aires are not so full of people, mainly people without children and retirees. The days still are not too short and it`s low season again.
Mid of October it`s getting more foggy especially in Denmark and Schleswig-Holstein between the two "oceans". Then it`s time to follow the sun heading south.
The more distance you have to the north coasts the warmer it could be. So beginning of Nov south of Berlin up to Dresden there will be still a good chance for a golden continental autumn. But during first week of November it`s time to leave Germany low level high speed, short days, rain, storm and first frost. To be really sure i think it would be best to cross the Alps after mid October.
Our plan is to spend the "hot summertime" here at home in East Frisia and mid Sep we will go heading East/South East for Harz, Dresden, South Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and back to Greece, but very slow.

Have fun with planning,

regards
Bernd
 
On the way stop in Hamburg you can overnight for a fee in the car park of the Sant Pauli Fischmarkt, you are opposite the Blohm and Voss dry docks and on the edge of the Reeperbahn red light area, interesting to wander through plenty of good eating places around there.

also a mile walk is Miniature Wunderland - well worth spending a day in, it is a must see. Also next to you is the main city and boat tours around the old share houses or submarine pens, some of the tours are in English.

We we then went on from here into Denmark via Flensburg. Don't take any pork products into Denmark - they protect their bacon! I did have a few kilos in the freezer for my son in Helsinki but we got through the country without being frisked!!
 
Hi,

some time ago we made this tour...

Route Schleswig-Holstein.jpg

to avoid the traffic around Hamburg crossing of river Elbe with ferry at Glückstadt. Nice town where we stayed overnight at the harbour.

Then cross country to Bad Segeberg, very nice lake, good Stellplatz and "Karl May Theatre", not really on UNESCO list, but nice.

Then Lübeck, for me a highlight in Schleswig-Holstein. Good Stellplatz, bus downtown 10 minutes or bike, the town is selfexplaining, really nice.
Two additional adresses in Lübeck, Marzipan factory...ask for Marzipan-Bruch, that means broken Marzipan, not very expensive.....and the Brotherhood of Captains, old sailor´s restaurant:

Lübecker Marzipan-Speicher & Marzipan-Speicher-Café
An der Untertrave 97-98,
23552 Lübeck
Lbecker Marzipanspeicher

Schiffer Gesellschaft, Brotherhood of Captains
Breite Straße 2
23552 Lübeck
Schiffergesellschaft | Lübeck | Restaurant | Seefahrt | Kapitäne | Historisch | Gourmet | Gaststätte | Hanse | Bruderschaft | Indoor

Then we continued to the harbour of Lübeck, Travemünde, with the ship "Passat", the sister of the sunk "Pamir". And then a little bit along the touristic coast till Scharbeutz, from there via Eutin (little nice castle and parking) to Plön-Lake. Nice countryside called "Holstein-Suisse". Some Stellplätze around.

From there to Laboe near Kiel , a german navy memorial with a submarine, i think with Stellplatz
Die Geschichte des Marine-Ehrenmals in Laboe

and then to Rendsburg (the big bridge) and to Kiel-canal (Kaiser-Wilhelm-Kanal :scared:), some Stellplätze for watching ships.

And then to Schleswig, another highlight, good Stellplätze, nice town, fishermen´s village, and south of Schleswig the Viking village Haithabu, really worth to visit, may be with overnight place.
Viking Museum Haithabu — Schleswig-Holsteinische Landesmuseen

Then we drove to Husum to see the North Sea portion, Stellplatz and nice, typical North Sea harbour.

And from there to danish island Romo, absolutely amazing to drive with the mh over the huge beach, it´s funny and free.

Enjoy the planning
Bernd :wave:
 
Looks good

Hi Bernd,

Thank you for the details it looks very interesting we will look closer into the route and we may be able to meet up with our Viking ancestors up there.

Regards John.



rottiontour said:
Hi,

some time ago we made this tour...

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to avoid the traffic around Hamburg crossing of river Elbe with ferry at Glückstadt. Nice town where we stayed overnight at the harbour.

Then cross country to Bad Segeberg, very nice lake, good Stellplatz and "Karl May Theatre", not really on UNESCO list, but nice.

Then Lübeck, for me a highlight in Schleswig-Holstein. Good Stellplatz, bus downtown 10 minutes or bike, the town is selfexplaining, really nice.
Two additional adresses in Lübeck, Marzipan factory...ask for Marzipan-Bruch, that means broken Marzipan, not very expensive.....and the Brotherhood of Captains, old sailor´s restaurant:

Lübecker Marzipan-Speicher & Marzipan-Speicher-Café
An der Untertrave 97-98,
23552 Lübeck
Lbecker Marzipanspeicher

Schiffer Gesellschaft, Brotherhood of Captains
Breite Straße 2
23552 Lübeck
Schiffergesellschaft | Lübeck | Restaurant | Seefahrt | Kapitäne | Historisch | Gourmet | Gaststätte | Hanse | Bruderschaft | Indoor

Then we continued to the harbour of Lübeck, Travemünde, with the ship "Passat", the sister of the sunk "Pamir". And then a little bit along the touristic coast till Scharbeutz, from there via Eutin (little nice castle and parking) to Plön-Lake. Nice countryside called "Holstein-Suisse". Some Stellplätze around.

From there to Laboe near Kiel , a german navy memorial with a submarine, i think with Stellplatz
Die Geschichte des Marine-Ehrenmals in Laboe

and then to Rendsburg (the big bridge) and to Kiel-canal (Kaiser-Wilhelm-Kanal :scared:), some Stellplätze for watching ships.

And then to Schleswig, another highlight, good Stellplätze, nice town, fishermen´s village, and south of Schleswig the Viking village Haithabu, really worth to visit, may be with overnight place.
Viking Museum Haithabu — Schleswig-Holsteinische Landesmuseen

Then we drove to Husum to see the North Sea portion, Stellplatz and nice, typical North Sea harbour.

And from there to danish island Romo, absolutely amazing to drive with the mh over the huge beach, it´s funny and free.

Enjoy the planning
Bernd :wave:
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