Clean air category and registration

[Thistle]

Decided to get in touch with Sheffield Council re my Spanish plates. They confirmed that their equipment will not recognise my plates so I will not be charged in Sheffield.

Did whoever you contacted confirm that in writing? I personally wouldn’t rely on anything informal such as a phone conversation.

My gut feeling is all the Anpr cameras setup to fleece us are all to the same standard and are more than capable of capturing foreign number plates.

The Anpr side of this extracting money with menaces scheme is operated by the dvla and they do exchange data with other countries

The dvla provide the captured info to the relevant fleecing authority who are then responsible for issuing the PCN and chasing non payments.

What I do know for certain is neither the fleecing local authority or the DVLA will confirm if a vehicle was or was not captured in a zone, they hide behind GDPR bs which means in an unknown situation you are effectively made to feel guilty and can not prove yourself innocent as I found out when I may have entered the one in Portsmouth by mistake for about 15 seconds.

 

[GeoffL]

Did whoever you contacted confirm that in writing? I personally wouldn’t rely on anything informal such as a phone conversation.

My gut feeling is all the Anpr cameras setup to fleece us are all to the same standard and are more than capable of capturing foreign number plates.

The Anpr side of this extracting money with menaces scheme is operated by the dvla and they do exchange data with other countries

The dvla provide the captured info to the relevant fleecing authority who are then responsible for issuing the PCN and chasing non payments.

What I do know for certain is neither the fleecing local authority or the DVLA will confirm if a vehicle was or was not captured in a zone, they hide behind GDPR bs which means in an unknown situation you are effectively made to feel guilty and can not prove yourself innocent as I found out when I may have entered the one in Portsmouth by mistake for about 15 seconds.

Trying to be apolitical here, I suspect the difference is that DVLA (who get to keep the fees for 'authorised disclosure' of registered keeper info) are more than happy to pass UK keeper info to EU entities while the EU equivalents of DVLA are not so keen to pass their info to UK authorities. If I'm right, then Sheffield cameras might be more than capable of reading Spanish plates, but they can't enforce as the Spanish equivalent of DVLA won't give Sheffield council the required info.

Again, AFAICT, driving a non-compliant vehicle in a CAZ is a civil (rather than criminal) offence, and so the authorities cannot even get the police to apprehend the vehicle after the fact.

 

[jacquigem]

Did whoever you contacted confirm that in writing? I personally wouldn’t rely on anything informal such as a phone conversation.

My gut feeling is all the Anpr cameras setup to fleece us are all to the same standard and are more than capable of capturing foreign number plates.

The Anpr side of this extracting money with menaces scheme is operated by the dvla and they do exchange data with other countries

The dvla provide the captured info to the relevant fleecing authority who are then responsible for issuing the PCN and chasing non payments.

What I do know for certain is neither the fleecing local authority or the DVLA will confirm if a vehicle was or was not captured in a zone, they hide behind GDPR bs which means in an unknown situation you are effectively made to feel guilty and can not prove yourself innocent as I found out when I may have entered the one in Portsmouth by mistake for about 15 seconds.

Did it by email, but will take care and try to avoid

 

[jacquigem]

Trying to be apolitical here, I suspect the difference is that DVLA (who get to keep the fees for 'authorised disclosure' of registered keeper info) are more than happy to pass UK keeper info to EU entities while the EU equivalents of DVLA are not so keen to pass their info to UK authorities. If I'm right, then Sheffield cameras might be more than capable of reading Spanish plates, but they can't enforce as the Spanish equivalent of DVLA won't give Sheffield council the required info.

Again, AFAICT, driving a non-compliant vehicle in a CAZ is a civil (rather than criminal) offence, and so the authorities cannot even get the police to apprehend the vehicle after the fact.

You may well be right. Last year we got lost in Newcastle centre and went thru a buses only gate guarded by a camera. Never heard anything further.