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French are hot on it , and anything to do with excise .ran out of diesel once in the mountains and asked a farmer to sell me a few litres of red . he went white at the thought ! actually got a tube out and sucked a gallon from his car ,rather than take the risk !
mate of mine used to get his car warmed up then switch to paraffin . you couldn't tell apart from the massive white cloud of smoke and the smell !
 
n brown said:
mate of mine used to get his car warmed up then switch to paraffin . you couldn't tell apart from the massive white cloud of smoke and the smell !
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Was his name Mog Thomas with a landrover by any chance,
 
Wully said:
This place was in Cumbernauld near Glasgow not a farming or heavy industrial area right slap bang in the middle of town. I’ve been running Diesil cars and vans all my life I’ve never used it as the vans have mostly been newish so was always scared of doing damage and knackering the warranty. But in 35 years I’ve never had my tank dipped or tested yet I hear people saying they’ve had there’s tested. Suppose they think the same way if you’ve got a new van chances are you don’t use it.
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what's it called?
 
Do wonder at times with spain that does have some cheap so called diesel and what it actually is probably be more interesting to people with newer engines though
 
Robmac said:
I think boat owners can only use duty free red for heating not for propulsion. They are still allowed to run their engines on it, but when filling up they have to sign a declaration saying what proportion will be used for domestic and what will be used for propulsion. They then have to pay the extra duty on the proportion used for propulsion.

I may be wrong, but that is how I understand it.
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Marinas in the U.K. still sell red diesel. Commercial vessels can use lower rate red legitimately. As a leisure vessel, you will be charged full rate for the full purchase unless you declare that a percentage is for heating use. Customs & excise will generally accept a 60/40 split as being the default. Liveaboards can declare 100% if the boat never moves. The Marina will log the purchases though, with the boats name and owners details.

you don’t need to claim the duty back, price is adjusted accordingly at the checkout.

The big issue will be when a yacht crosses the channel or the North Sea. Red diesel is now illegal in the EU and if checked, you will be fined regardless of the duty you paid.

I live in The Fens and it’s not unusual to find independent garages that sell reduced price red diesel at the pumps, no questions asked. I collect it in 20lt Jerry cans for use in my tractor. (Off road use only). It would be illegal for me to take the tractor there and fill it!
 
mfw said:
if it was illegal for them they would not have the red diesel available
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that’s rubbish! you can’t assume that because something is available, or because folk sell it, it’s legal!

it’s the users responsibility to ensure he sticks to the rules.

it’s not just diesel, there are several areas where stuff is available but they are used illegally.
 
TonyEmm said:
that’s rubbish! you can’t assume that because something is available, or because folk sell it, it’s legal!

it’s the users responsibility to ensure he sticks to the rules.

it’s not just diesel, there are several areas where stuff is available but they are used illegally.
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Correct, red diesel, electric bikes overpower limit, petrol scooters, dirt bikes, all available but its the owners responsibility to comply with the law regarding there use.
 
you can actually buy 20 litre cans of red on ebay.....



.though its cheaper to buy derv at the pumps
 
Red diesel is used in hgv fridge trailers and trucks with a separate tank, mixers generaters farm machinery & anything not used on the public roads
 
DocMartin said:
If you have a diesel heater in your van you can use red in that. I can buy as much as I want from the site where I have my workshop here in Norfolk. They sell most of it to farmers.
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Would need a separate fuel tank though!
 
In our village there used to be a old fella than poured red into a loaf of stale bread which he had covered with cling film leaving the top and bottom clear and it came out the bottom white. I have seen the used bread he burnt in his log burner
 
witzend said:
In our village there used to be a old fella than poured red into a loaf of stale bread which he had covered with cling film leaving the top and bottom clear and it came out the bottom white. I have seen the used bread he burnt in his log burner
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That'll work fine until there's a wheat shortage (y):)
 
I would imagine red to get a lot harder to find in a couple of years due to the duty changes made in last years budget.
 
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