Channa And Fulltiming experience....

Use a launderette for washing clothes. Our local one costs £3 for a wash and it's £2-3 for drying. Takes about an hour total. It's open 7am till 10pm and in the evening I park the van on the single yellows right outside. I can go on the computer in the van while the wash goes on. You can do two weeks clothing in one wash. I don't see this as a big problem.
 
Use a launderette for washing clothes. Our local one costs £3 for a wash and it's £2-3 for drying. Takes about an hour total. It's open 7am till 10pm and in the evening I park the van on the single yellows right outside. I can go on the computer in the van while the wash goes on. You can do two weeks clothing in one wash. I don't see this as a big problem.

But for at least 5 days a week you live and work in an urban environment so your clothes are likely to be soiled rather than dirty. Also you don't have to take a large bouncy dog for a walk at least once a day regardless of weather which may necessitate at least one change of clothes not least due to sweat involved in trying to keep up with him, but also mud, rain, sleet, snow...

And £6 for a full wash and dry is cheaper than what I priced locally but even so my daily food budget would probably be about £6 so money would be very tight. For me, I would have to wash and dry clothes myself for the majority of the time whenever possible, relying on launderette as a back up option only.

And anyway I'm a woman which means I like to change my undies and socks daily, I wear pyjamas and socks in bed, and most importantly, I NEED TO HAVE A CHOICE OF CLOTHES! It's a woman thing (I think!). Just as I will need to have several pairs of shoes even though they will take up valuable space and will probably only be worn once or twice, but I NEED THEM. If only just to look at and admire.

For those french speakers amongst us (and I may get the quote or the spelling wrong here...)

"Seule une femme peut comprendre le desir d'etre belle, sois pour elle-meme ou pour un souvenir" - Henri Troyat, Les dames de Siberie.... which roughly translates as :
"only a woman can understand the desire to be beautiful, either for herself or for a memory"

Seriously though I know fulltiming is going to mean becoming absolutely ruthless about personal possessions and my idea of what I do need and don't need, and I suspect that will be my biggest difficulty.
 
Use a launderette for washing clothes. Our local one costs £3 for a wash and it's £2-3 for drying. Takes about an hour total. It's open 7am till 10pm and in the evening I park the van on the single yellows right outside. I can go on the computer in the van while the wash goes on. You can do two weeks clothing in one wash. I don't see this as a big problem.
local being the operative word, great if you are
concentrating in one location

As a rule, I travelled about so local services were a one hit trip

In the uk I often used a cc site clumberpark one of my favourites
7pounds a night mid week off season including ehu 3 pounds for a wash 50 p a dry normally 1.50 realistically

11.50 isn't a kings ransom in the grand scale but a consideration when work is hit and miss

Channa
 
For me personally, the launderette is essential for full timing, if only for drying. It's very difficult to get stuff dry in the van. Washing is the easy bit!

You can wash 10 shirts, clean underwear for two weeks and some trousers and other stuff in one wash. All this for £6 (+ powder... maybe 50p). I don't know anywhere you can buy 10 shirts, 14 pairs of socks and pants, some T shirts and trousers for £6 :eek: As some people have alluded to, throwing away after one use would not be an option for me. Even just one shirt in a charity shop can cost £3 or £4, so this wouldn't work. I can see it might be necessary if you were very wealthy and living off a motorbike but not otherwise :)
 
Thanks for all the info and feedback about your experiences Channa, it's interesting reading and really useful - my life circumstances are such that fulltiming is looking like a very likely move for me at some point this year, out of necessity rather than choice. I'm excited and fearful at the same time about the prospect, and have mulled over some of the problems / issues you have commented on.

The longest I've been away in the van was 4 weeks and I loved it but admittedly it was early autumn, the lowest temperature I experienced was 4 C so not particularly cold, and I had very little rain during those weeks. Although I had given laundry some thought, I hadn't really considered the real practical difficulties. Having checked launderette prices, I am staggered that a self-wash and dry is not far off a tenner per load. So that makes it only a very occasional option. So it's made me realise I need to think about more of such practicalities.

Also your point regarding the amount and bulk of clothes has given me food for thought too. Especially if some sort of "working" clothes will be needed as well as my own everyday stuff, and also a smarter outfit for interviews, hatches / matches / despatches social do's etc. For 4 weeks I managed as I took enough and relaxed my standards slightly so that some things that would normally be washed after one day, would be worn twice. But as you've said, it's very easy to let standards slip too much... I always knew that I would be going back home to a washing machine and woodburning stove to dry clothes in front of so I didn't really give it too much thought. Although as a matter of routine, I do tend to go for practical clothes which will do in several different situations eg quick drying walking trousers with canvas hiking boots / shoes which are equally suitable for a dog walk aswell as a drink in the pub or shopping or most other every day activities. But the problem of bulky winter clothes is a good one which I will need to consider further together with general housekeeping (or vankeeping) - like you said, I've learned that I really need to give the van a really good clean out ideally weekly or at least fortnightly when in full time use - easy when I'm going home after 2 weeks and can plug into mains elec to hoover it, and have plenty of hot water to give everything a good wash, and can wash and dry my bedding, and also the dogs, easily enough but when on the road, I will find that more of a challenge.

I have more or less come to the conclusion that if I do full time, because my van is not a coachbuilt with good facilities etc and is still little more than a mobile tent, I would need some sort of lock up for storage not only of some stuff from the house (paper records, some sentimental stuff, some sporting equipment etc) but also for seasonal stuff (winter clothes for example), and for temporary storage of stuff whilst on the road (craft supplies, market stall equipment etc) and so I would really need to be able to access this fairly regularly. Therefore, location of storage is important, and it may well not be anywhere near where I am currently living in northern england. So some idea of roughly what part of the uk I am going to be in is important and I really need to have a vague plan in mind, instead of just getting into the van and seeing where it takes me.

I will need to think about how often I will have to do a mail pick up from the nominated postal address so it's location will be important, and I will probably have to rely on asking friends to take my post for me. Or else I drop out of the system completely, which I am also giving serious thought to and doing research into just how possible this is.

Looking forward to hearing more of your experiences and stories - your thoughts on an oven, for example. Budgets and finances, unexpected costs, what is the minimum weekly amount you have been able to survive on and how you managed, other unexpected problems, your thoughts on full timing in uk versus in france - would like to know more.
your observations re storage of possessions etc carrying a full wardrobe tools etc are spot on

I think -i probably spend 15 pounds a day, excluding tax and insurance and storage costs
Channa
 
I'm thinking if I spend £6 every couple of weeks on a wash it is not too bad. I tend to be much neater for work and have a fresh shirt every day and suits which are drycleaned (that's expensive). I relax a lot more on weekends and time away. It's not very easy to keep clean all the time with dogs, campfires, grass, and mud, so no point spending all the time trying to do that!

But £6 every two weeks is £150 a year (excluding the suits which would need to go to dry cleaner anyway).

To invest in a decent washing machine and dryer could be £500 - £600... three to four years at the launderette. Plus they will need maintaining and replacing, and there is a share of the infrastructure to provide a home for them - electric bills, council tax, mortgage/rent etc.

When you look on it like this, it's not that much more expensive than doing home laundry, so look on the bright side :) The worst thing for me about the launderette is making sure I have enough £ coins in change to operate the machines!
 
I did it mainly abroad in mainly hot weather.you eat less,wear minimal clothing,for me it was shorts and sandals and a jumper in the evening, so washing clothes was a lot less of a problem. I tended to find good fairly long term parkups,where my family were ok,usually on a beach or riverbank or lakeside,then use a moped to go to work.
living cheaply like this is so much easier than uk. never had much problem finding work,as I had all my tools and those villas don't maintain themselves ! often i'd take the van to the villa and we could all shower or bath,and use the washing machine[and the pool of course!] occasionally we'd get house sitting jobs which were a chance to sort out stuff and the van.like Channa we'd do marche noir work.grape picking was a chance to earn the lump to either head south or get back to blighty,but selling stuff on the markets was a nice way to move round Europe and get to see the country not as a tourist,but more involved. the more you do it,the more resourceful and practical you get,and the better at all the chores !
 
I feel compelled to re iterate at this stage. Full timing presents a different set of challenges to life in bricks and mortar

Not once did I regret my choice, more a case of one has to adjust to a different environment.

Channa
 
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