Bristol caravan dwellers causing serious issues

[Fisherman]

It’s a human problem.

Wherever you get humans you’ll get problems

Personally speaking, I don’t think the situation in Bristol has anything remotely to do with wildcamping.

Just sayin’

Right! Excuse me but I’m away off to Sligo this morning …

Fine post Marie, and yes I agree that this situation in Bristol has nothing to do with us.
But I can visualise the land lies weeping brigade and others drawing comparisons, hence why I started this thread. So sadly indirectly it will affect us.

I dislike it when people are treated like animals or referred to as being a nuisance, each and everyone of them has a story to tell, and some of them probably need help. I am glad that at least Bristol City Council are taking a pragmatic approach, but I also would like to think that any who need help get help. As you said on another post Marie, “there but for the grace of god” and that applies to people in other desperate situations in our world, and could well have applied to some of us including myself, given a different set of circumstances in our lives.

 

[izwozral]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda, get over yourself Bill, you'll have my heart bleeding. Not!

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[Fisherman]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda, get over yourself Bill, you'll have my heart bleeding. Not!

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Get over what Ral ?

 

[trevskoda]

Problem is many folk are shoved into a grove in life but maybe not one they want, sometimes things in life just go wrong and anyone of use could end up on the wrong path as seen by others but maybe seems ok to them, there is no wright or wrong in how folks wish to live, but society says otherwise.

 

[izwozral]

Putting yourself in to every poor buggers shoes. It's too big a burden to take on the world's misery.
You will be feeling for Vennells next!

 

[mariesnowgoose]

Putting yourself in to every poor buggers shoes. It's too big a burden to take on the world's misery.
You will be feeling for Vennells next!

Comparing Vennells with Bristol van dwellers is a pretty daft chalk and cheese comparison!

And you certainly don’t have to “take on the world’s misery” to try to have an understanding of other people’s situation in life “#justsayin”

 

[izwozral]

Comparing Vennells with Bristol van dwellers is a pretty daft chalk and cheese comparison!

And you certainly don’t have to “take on the world’s misery” to try to have an understanding of other people’s situation in life “#justsayin”

Chalk and cheese are sometimes the best match I've found.

Having a different understanding of a situation is fine by me.

Having freedom to express an opinion is an inalienable right.

Winding Bill up should be a national pastime.

Necks are usually wound in clockwise.

Enjoy Ireland.
Don't forget, you drive on the right the first Sunday of the month.

 

[Fisherman]

Chalk and cheese are sometimes the best match I've found.

Having a different understanding of a situation is fine by me.

Having freedom to express an opinion is an inalienable right.

Winding Bill up should be a national pastime.

Necks are usually wound in clockwise.

Enjoy Ireland.
Don't forget, you drive on the right the first Sunday of the month.

It would appear that you may well have “ wound up” others Ral.
Or is this as the Americans call it collateral damage.

Caring about people struggling in today’s unequal world is not weak, or woke, it’s simply a state of mind, a conscience, and a belief not in a perfect world, but a better world.
A world where people are treated with respect, dignity, and equality.
Sadly in the world we live in today intolerance has become normality, and people’s dignity has been reduced to living in squalor, whilst other look on with a lack of respect, compassion, or even indifference.

We saw better times, our kids and theirs seemingly won’t.

As for freedom of expression being an inalienable right, that right has never been more threatened than it is in today’s world.

Having a different understanding is what should stimulate debate, but in today’s world it stimulates intolerance, and even hatred.

To some of us it seems that we are sleep walking right now, hopefully one day we will wake up and smell the coffee. Speaking of which I am now about to take mine.

I consider myself well and truly wound up.

Good morning Ral.

 

[izwozral]

Bloomin heck Bill, I'm in NZ where everyone smiles, chats to you, helps you out when needed. Where the scenery brings you to tears.
The sun and the autumn colours gladded your heart and are feast upon your eyes.
We've been walking around playing with the idea of buying a plot, building a house, getting a dog and a motorhome.
Then I go and read your post and I want to slash my wrists and pickle my eyes in acid.

As a fellow member to a fellow member I give to you 10 hours of music to lift you out of your depression.

Enjoy and good evening from Paradise.

 

[izwozral]

Why dont councils build prefab single units with loo kitchen and bedsite room on a concrete base all in unused land near a town or village, a cheap rental and if home damaged it can be removed aand a new unit set on the base, old one taken back and a refurb done.
Simple solutions are best but seldom done.
Caravans as a rule are not taxed or insured and should not by law be allowed parked on public roads, unless attached to a tow veh with 24 hr max stay.

Councils are not interested Trev but here is a legend who is.

 

[Fisherman]

Bloomin heck Bill, I'm in NZ where everyone smiles, chats to you, helps you out when needed. Where the scenery brings you to tears.
The sun and the autumn colours gladded your heart and are feast upon your eyes.
We've been walking around playing with the idea of buying a plot, building a house, getting a dog and a motorhome.
Then I go and read your post and I want to slash my wrists and pickle my eyes in acid.

As a fellow member to a fellow member I give to you 10 hours of music to lift you out of your depression.

Enjoy and good evening from Paradise.

New Zealand has one of the highest rates of child poverty in the Western world, with a substantial percentage of children experiencing material hardship.

• • A significant portion of the population, including children, experience housing insecurity, with some facing homelessness or living in severely insecure housing.

Please don’t paint a pretty picture where one does not exist accept in your world.
New Zealand has many ptoblems, just as we do, it’s no Valhalla, no paradise for some who live there.
You may well walk about with your eyes shut with no care for others, but others see things differently. Some actually care. Yes if you are comfortable NZ would be a lovely place to live, but many there are anything but comfortable.

You enjoy NZ, I always wanted to visit it, probably never will.

Caring about others does not make you depressed, it actually makes you feel better about yourself. But watching others poke fun at people who need help is depressing.

As for listening to that music for ten hours, now that could lead to depression.

 

[boggie]

Why dont councils build prefab single units with loo kitchen and bedsite room on a concrete base all in unused land near a town or village, a cheap rental and if home damaged it can be removed aand a new unit set on the base, old one taken back and a refurb done.
Simple solutions are best but seldom done.
Caravans as a rule are not taxed or insured and should not by law be allowed parked on public roads, unless attached to a tow veh with 24 hr max stay.

Blackburn has renewed funding to the pods for homeless people, about 20, to help homeless. Comes with support facilities.
Good but will never be enough.

 

[Fisherman]

Problem is many folk are shoved into a grove in life but maybe not one they want, sometimes things in life just go wrong and anyone of use could end up on the wrong path as seen by others but maybe seems ok to them, there is no wright or wrong in how folks wish to live, but society says otherwise.

In the 70s I used to help out a homeless charity in Glasgow one night a week with my cousin. What struck me then (and times were better then) was how normal people could end up this way. In many cases it was started through a martial split up, the loss of a loved one, and in some cases these people just needed help which was not forthcoming. Sadly many of them turned to alcoholism some committing suicide. Some suffered abuse from members of society who reckoned they were better, and thought these people were to blame for their lack of moral fibre. Yet some of these men had fought in the war, and had witnessed things we could only read about in books. I remember well Norrie a merchant seamen in WW2 who twice was onboard ships that were sunk, sadly he died from alcohol abuse. As Marie said “there but for the grace of God”.

 

[n brown]

people used to live mainly in vans and move around a bit , but since the CAZ zone it's just caravans

 

[izwozral]

New Zealand has one of the highest rates of child poverty in the Western world, with a substantial percentage of children experiencing material hardship.

• • A significant portion of the population, including children, experience housing insecurity, with some facing homelessness or living in severely insecure housing.

Please don’t paint a pretty picture where one does not exist accept in your world.
New Zealand has many ptoblems, just as we do, it’s no Valhalla, no paradise for some who live there.
You may well walk about with your eyes shut with no care for others, but others see things differently. Some actually care. Yes if you are comfortable NZ would be a lovely place to live, but many there are anything but comfortable.

You enjoy NZ, I always wanted to visit it, probably never will.

Caring about others does not make you depressed, it actually makes you feel better about yourself. But watching others poke fun at people who need help is depressing.

As for listening to that music for ten hours, now that could lead to depression.

Feckin Nora, cheer up you miserable old bugger, you will have me reaching for the razor blades and the acid next.

P. S. I have sent you a subscription of a magazine called How To Seek Joy In Life.

 

[Fisherman]

Feckin Nora, cheer up you miserable old bugger, you will have me reaching for the razor blades and the acid next.

P. S. I have sent you a subscription of a magazine called How To Seek Joy In Life.

You always cheer me up, even when you are annoyingly you.

 

[colinm]

New Zealand has one of the highest rates of child poverty in the Western world, with a substantial percentage of children experiencing material hardship.

• • A significant portion of the population, including children, experience housing insecurity, with some facing homelessness or living in severely insecure housing.

Please don’t paint a pretty picture where one does not exist accept in your world.
New Zealand has many ptoblems, just as we do, it’s no Valhalla, no paradise for some who live there.
You may well walk about with your eyes shut with no care for others, but others see things differently. Some actually care. Yes if you are comfortable NZ would be a lovely place to live, but many there are anything but comfortable.

You enjoy NZ, I always wanted to visit it, probably never will.

Caring about others does not make you depressed, it actually makes you feel better about yourself. But watching others poke fun at people who need help is depressing.

As for listening to that music for ten hours, now that could lead to depression.

That's directly related to ethnic background, all those immigrants living high off the poverty of the indigenous population.

 

[Fisherman]

That's directly related to ethnic background, all those immigrants living high off the poverty of the indigenous population.

Ironic really, here are we complaining about immigration.

 

[Drover]

Hell you lot are making me want to run off and join the Mormon cult in the USA.

 

[maingate]

Hell you lot are making me want to run off and join the Mormon cult in the USA.

The Mormons are not a cult actually. And if you had lived in the UK 200 - 250 years ago, the UK had the largest group of Mormon followers than anywhere else in the World. They moved to Utah to get away from religious discrimination. I have no definitive proof that some of my forebears were Mormon but some of them emigrated to America and followed the Mormon Trail to Utah. They were Coal Miners and that might have been the attraction more so than the Religion.