Beware of the Motorway Gantry Speed Cameras

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Channa where you been lol, Brunstrom went ages ago. GoSafe operate under 10%plus2 as do NWP....they replied to me under FOI answering the tolerance question I had.

North Wales for example had a zero percent tolerance under Richard Brunstrum as CC.

I thought the sentence suggested past tense :lol-053:

Channa
 
+ not -

Speedometers only have a tolerance for plus, not minus. i.e. they can show a speed which is faster than that being travelled at but never slower.

"The UK law is based on the EU standard, with some minor changes. A speedo must never show less than the actual speed, and must never show more than 110% of actual speed + 6.25mph. So if your true speed is 40mph, your speedo could legally be reading up to 50.25mph but never less than 40mph. Or to put it another way, if your speedo is reading 50mph, you won’t be doing more than 50mph but it’s possible you might actually only be travelling at 40mph."

Source:
How accurate is your car speedometer? #AskTCE
 
I'm quite pleased that I didn't join the herd that were overtaking me when I was complying with the speed limit.I initially thought that they were somehow getting away with it and the cameras inoperative.Apparently not because as the statistics show in the original link there has been a huge increase in revenue generated by the smart motorway overhead gantry cameras.Seems like they were shooting past all the law abiding drivers only to receive 3 points and a fine which in a funny sort of way makes me feel better.:drive::dance:
 
With the advent of the ''smart''motorways and the temporary lower speed limit at busy times it follows that speeding fines will increase,and so they have.....
Speeding tickets on 'smart motorways' rise sharply - BBC News

I have been through lots of these overhead gantry speed limits on the motorway and wondered if they were enforceable or whether they were just advisory.I couldn't understand that when I was doing the speed limit through them other drivers were racing past obviously over the limit.Did they have some insider information that the temporary speed limit was just advisory or that the cameras weren't working?

Apparently not as according to the report there has been a big increase in speeding fines from these overhead gantry cameras,it is a compulsory speed limit,the speed cameras are active and you will get fined and points on your licence so be aware.

I drove on the M25 round the west of London for 15 years, the speed limits would jump 70 60 50 40

A 40mph sign means its at a standstill.

It would be quite difficult to adjust to the new speed limits.
 
I drove on the M25 round the west of London for 15 years, the speed limits would jump 70 60 50 40

A 40mph sign means its at a standstill.

It would be quite difficult to adjust to the new speed limits.


No its not....

IF the speed limit changes on a 'smart motorway' changes...
contrary to popular belief they can't alter JUST as you drive under the gantry with the camera (there would be righteous repercussions for this as it WOULD be making money from motorists)
the first gantry you pass under with a change of speed limit is either one without a camera OR the camera is inoperative to the best of my knowledge...

Don't pay attention to the limits you WILL get caught... fact.
NO point bleating about it you WERE speeding..

I say this as someone the drives on average 250 miles a day for work (often far more) and have done so for the last 30 years or so.... my only speeding offence was on a deserted single carriage way in North Yorkshire last year and resulted in the option of a speed awareness course....

My own fault for a lapse in concentration.... did the crime and did the time AND most importantly came away having learnt something and hopefully more aware AND safer
 
No its not....

IF the speed limit changes on a 'smart motorway' changes...
contrary to popular belief they can't alter JUST as you drive under the gantry with the camera (there would be righteous repercussions for this as it WOULD be making money from motorists)
the first gantry you pass under with a change of speed limit is either one without a camera OR the camera is inoperative to the best of my knowledge...

Don't pay attention to the limits you WILL get caught... fact.
NO point bleating about it you WERE speeding..

I say this as someone the drives on average 250 miles a day for work (often far more) and have done so for the last 30 years or so.... my only speeding offence was on a deserted single carriage way in North Yorkshire last year and resulted in the option of a speed awareness course....



My own fault for a lapse in concentration.... did the crime and did the time AND most importantly came away having learnt something and hopefully more aware AND safer

Funny you should say that ...........

.............. guess where I was between 5pm and 9 pm tonight? :cry:
 
Funny you should say that ...........

.............. guess where I was between 5pm and 9 pm tonight? :cry:

You got away lightly... full day for me.... that, said I DID learn some stuff....

over 30 in a a 30 zone means a heap more chance of a fatal injury (though the chap taking the course refused to accept that modern brakes/crumple zones and ABS had improved chances of survival...

AND that out of the 50 folks attending I was the only one caught on an out of town single carriageway Road over the limit for the class of vehicle I was driving... (over 2 tons GVW) so subject to national speed limit minus 10mph) ...
own fault so no complaints.
 
Not sure about older managed motorways but the newer tend to have cameras set back from the gantries that have the speed cameras attached so that the gantry image is taken at the same time as evidence of the posted limit.

Also bear in mind that the newer gantries are using hadecs 3, so for those that look up for the cameras also check the gantry legs at mid height.

Highways England forward the data to the relevant police authorities, some of whom prosecute, others basically just ignore it. Last time I asked some were looking to set the triggers at zero tolerance rather than acpo guidelines (but this was last year, so could all be different now).
 
You got away lightly... full day for me.... that, said I DID learn some stuff....

over 30 in a a 30 zone means a heap more chance of a fatal injury (though the chap taking the course refused to accept that modern brakes/crumple zones and ABS had improved chances of survival...

AND that out of the 50 folks attending I was the only one caught on an out of town single carriageway Road over the limit for the class of vehicle I was driving... (over 2 tons GVW) so subject to national speed limit minus 10mph) ...
own fault so no complaints.

That's interesting. So in our 4 ton motorhome we should be 10 mph under signs?
 
Just back from my speed awareness course.
Who else knows what the black stripe on the lollipop man's lollipop is for?

Haven't a clue but it sounds slightly rude to me. :raofl::raofl:
 
Just back from my speed awareness course.
Who else knows what the black stripe on the lollipop man's lollipop is for?

we didn't have that one BUT from memory it's to chalk the reg number of motorists that fail to stop
 
fines

i would not mind if fines were proportional, i got done for doing 34 in a 30 limit, on a dual carriageway with access roads both sides!! i got 100 pounds and 3 points. Watching the police program i saw a guy doing 80 in a thirty limit, car chase, he had no insurance and nev er held a license, he got 100 pounds and 4 points on a license he will never have. Maybe if they fined then twice the insurance quote for no insurance, for a first offence doubling for each subsequent offence. maybe if driving bans started when the offender got out of prison, and maybe if suspended sentences were implemented they might think twice. Its cheaper to pay the fine than do it legally!!!
Grumpy old git
 
i would not mind if fines were proportional, i got done for doing 34 in a 30 limit, on a dual carriageway with access roads both sides!! i got 100 pounds and 3 points. Watching the police program i saw a guy doing 80 in a thirty limit, car chase, he had no insurance and nev er held a license, he got 100 pounds and 4 points on a license he will never have. Maybe if they fined then twice the insurance quote for no insurance, for a first offence doubling for each subsequent offence. maybe if driving bans started when the offender got out of prison, and maybe if suspended sentences were implemented they might think twice. Its cheaper to pay the fine than do it legally!!!
Grumpy old git

Had a mate got done for pulling a wheelie. Stoopid, no question, and deserving of getting in trouble.

He ended up with a ban, large fine and something like 200hrs community service. During which he met a guy that had mugged an old lady and a chap that stole a car and then torched it, both of whom got significantly less of a punishment.
 
i would not mind if fines were proportional, i got done for doing 34 in a 30 limit, on a dual carriageway with access roads both sides!! i got 100 pounds and 3 points. Watching the police program i saw a guy doing 80 in a thirty limit, car chase, he had no insurance and nev er held a license, he got 100 pounds and 4 points on a license he will never have. Maybe if they fined then twice the insurance quote for no insurance, for a first offence doubling for each subsequent offence. maybe if driving bans started when the offender got out of prison, and maybe if suspended sentences were implemented they might think twice. Its cheaper to pay the fine than do it legally!!!
Grumpy old git

With respect are you sure you have the story right , 6 points is mandatory for no insurance 3 pts minimum for speeding but can be more so 4 pts giving a total of 10 pts.

New drivers/ Provisional only have a bank of 6 pts before licence withdrawn and another extended test required but 4 points would carry over to that new provisional

Channa
 
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and the A9...average cameras. Dead of night and I have to do 50 in my van on a huge wide road. Not smart really when I can do 70 on a crowded M6 motorway. This is based on the assumption they can relate van weight to the applied 50 limit, anybody been done in a van going over 50 on the A9?

I don't think the authority understands the lower speed limit for vehicles over 3050kg net weight. They have put up signs on the A9 declaring a "trial 50mph limit for HGV's", when they shouldn't actually be doing more than that anyway on the single carriageway sections.
 

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