Betws y Coed Christmas Event

My wife andI I are serious about going to Betws and would be going on the Friday and stay through the 3rd and 4th Dec.......However we don't want to turn up and :-

A) Not know where we are to all meet. I have read the railway station is a possibility.

B) As we are relatively new to 'Wild Camping' we don't want to arrive, set up shop and then be told to move on by 'A Jacket'!! (as my wife fondly calls jobsworths!)

So has anyone anything concrete as to whether we will be welcomed by the above and indeed where?

Thanks,
Ron
 
Sorry to harp on a bit, but has anyone any more info. as to whether we can or can't pitch up in the car park?

Is anyone else still up for this?

Cheers all,
Ron
 
jms spanner said:
Sorry to harp on a bit, but has anyone any more info. as to whether we can or can't pitch up in the car park?

Is anyone else still up for this?

Cheers all,
Ron
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Hi JMS i'm getting the same response as you, lol, it seems to have gone very quite, i'm not willing to travel them miles to have nowhere to park up safely, i'm a solo camper (female) and dont fancy the idea of turning up and thes no one there in a strange place,

Jen
 
It's still in my diary and Reddy and Greystrips are planning to come too. We could really do to know if the council gave us the thumbs up though.
Jim
 
This is doing my head in!!

Difficulty in contacting the one man in the Park authority is the main issue, on leave for two weeks then in meetings, not returning my calls etc.

The last E.mail stated that if Riverside caravan park became full then the car park could be used as an overflow!

I then emailed to discuss further but I've hit a brick wall. Will try again on Monday, but it's getting late I know.

On a positive note, I've been talking to the Chair of the community council who was totally opposed to wild camping, but now that she's seen what they are and what they need (plus the fact that my daughter & friend gave them a fund raising concert) she is slowly seeing the benefits of allowing wild camping or even shock considering Aire type facilities.

Lots of pictures of Aires, Stellplatz etc.

I'm even thinking of trying to become a councilor!

Obviously in the case of Betws, Riverside have created a fuss so that the Park Authority have changed their mind re Wild Camping. Effectively bowing down to commercial pressure, by someone that feels that because they have taken the decision to provide a commercial enterprise, everyone MUST be forced to use it, even if they don't need it.

In conversation with County and Community councilors, initially they took this view. When on a site visit, I pointed to some picnic benches opposite a cafe, "So I suppose that you will take away those as there is a commercial venture that offers all the facilities that people use a picnic bench"

Slowly the penny is dropping.

I need lots of people stating that they will boycott Betws y Coed as a result of the Park Authority banning Wild Camping as a result of Commercial Pressure.

I know it takes time, but it's only when people are shown that it will hurt their economy, will internal pressure be brought from within the community.

If you can write, please be as frank as possible explaining what money you did spend and why you cannot spend in Betws any longer as a result of this ban on the Car Park.

I URGE that it is kept a concise as possible without rants as this will not help our cause.

If I don't get your help, then perhaps there isn't actually the need to try and change peoples restricted view on what we claim is something we enjoy ie. WILD CAMPING

Mail me at: peter@starsound.org.uk
 
I went to Betws in August and stayed in the railway car park - another van there.

Went to the pub spent 25 quid on alcohol and similar on food. Oh and FORTY quid on a pertex RAB top from a shop.

Can't make this as working but gutted as it is a lovely place.

LIDDERS
 
I used to go there two or three times per year and I always ate in the pub and had a few drinks....
I have purchased various items from the outdoor shops and fuel from the garage, even fish & chips at lunchtime... I no longer go there as we are no longer welcome....:cry::cry:
Knocked up in the morning by the warden, even after I had got up and paid again at 0600hrs....
Not motorhome friendly and I tell everybody....:cry:

A few miles down the road is Llanwryst, much better....
 
betws y coed parking

hi, took a walk around the car park at betws y coed last weekend, no signs saying no overnight parking.
 
An answer from the Snowdonia Parks Authority:

"Dear Peter
I'm sorry that your group is unhappy about the situation, but the offer we made is the best we could.
Our site is only designated as a car park and as such we cannot actively offer it in competition to official caravan sites.
If the discussion you propose concerns accommodating overnight stays by motor homes on our car park, then I'm afraid that there is little point in meeting up.
We would need planning permission to change the use of the site, and we are unwilling to do this.
Regards
Peter Trumper."

I don't agree, and am persuading local councillors etc.

Sorry to say, but it looks like the meet in the car park is off, Riverside have offered free camping for the first ten bookings and reduced cost after that.

BUT as they're the ones who started it all.............................
 
PS, there are a few POI's in close vicinity if anyone feels like going, OR if enough rabble turned out, the Warden would probably Sh*t himself!!
 
Bigpeetee said:
An answer from the Snowdonia Parks Authority:

"Dear Peter
I'm sorry that your group is unhappy about the situation, but the offer we made is the best we could.
Our site is only designated as a car park and as such we cannot actively offer it in competition to official caravan sites.
If the discussion you propose concerns accommodating overnight stays by motor homes on our car park, then I'm afraid that there is little point in meeting up.
We would need planning permission to change the use of the site, and we are unwilling to do this.
Regards
Peter Trumper."

I don't agree, and am persuading local councillors etc.

Sorry to say, but it looks like the meet in the car park is off, Riverside have offered free camping for the first ten bookings and reduced cost after that.

BUT as they're the ones who started it all.............................
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I'm sorry but, is that the guys name? Peter Trumper? that cant be right can it?

Jen
 
well it was too far for me anyway, but if i lived close, i would have contacted the local boozer, chippy and shops saying how a fair amount of people were willing to spend a few quid but not welcome, so will go somewhere else and give their money to those that make WC's feel welcome. a local rag might have been interested too, as this time of year, i doubt the expensive camp sites would be open/or at at least busy, so local shops would be very quiet.

it seemed a fair few off here wanted to go.

anyway it seems were welcome in the yorkshire meet up, who that great guy called cooljules started a thread, and im looking forward to that!!!
 
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I'm sorry but, is that the guys name? Peter Trumper? that cant be right can it?

Jen



the way the people have been treated does stink............



Sounds like an old Fart to me.

John.
 
I'm still going for the weekend taking the kids to see santa, poor lonely Mothman & co,
 
Thanks for trying Bigpeetee.

As it turned out, we had a top weekend in the Lakes instead. We had a great walk in the fells, but in addition we bought £100 worth of diesel to fill the van, a bar meal and drinks in a lovely Lakeland pub and then finished our Christmas shopping with bags of stuff from the outdoor equipment shops.

It seems Betws-y-Coed may have missed out as a result of our last minute relocating, Nevermind eh?
 
Gutted it fell apart, but I'm still trying, got somewhere with local councillor and community chairwoman.

Believe event was great success, it ended up I couldn't go as daughter who is due on the 8th started having pains......false alarm!!

Cash machine in Betws ran out on Saturday!!
 
Planning permission indeed! They don't need planning permission for a one night special event. Not only is the guy a fool, he is also an incompetent one.

You can tell the councillors at Btwsy, I'm going to boycott their area and encourage anyone I know not to give it any tourist revenue until they start having competent people looking after the facilities.

There's only so much tourist revenue to go round and I sincerely hope theirs drops off in favour of more progressive places until they sort their act out.
 
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