Been asked to move on? Who by and why?

[Bazbro]

For information, if anyone does, or threatens to, lock you in anywhere, that's false imprisonment and a criminal offence so don't be frightened by the threat!
There are a lot of bullies out there...

Barry

 

[271]

For information, if anyone does, or threatens to, lock you in anywhere, that's false imprisonment and a criminal offence so don't be frightened by the threat!
There are a lot of bullies out there...

Barry

It may well constitute an offence under Section 54 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, i.e. an offence to clamp, tow, block in or otherwise immobilise a vehicle
without lawful authority in England and Wales, it is most certainly not false imprisonment.

 

[Bazbro]

It may well constitute an offence under Section 54 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, i.e. an offence to clamp, tow, block in or otherwise immobilise a vehicle
without lawful authority in England and Wales, it is most certainly not false imprisonment.

I beg to differ.
"False imprisonment" is a Common Law offence and as such not rescinded nor overruled by statute.
In addition, whilst you are travelling, your motorhome is your home (albeit temporary though for full-timers it's their permanent home) it can be argued that you would be either imprisoned within your home or forced to leave your home to "escape" the restriction being placed upon your free movement by the S54 offence.

Barry

 

[271]

I beg to differ.
"False imprisonment" is a Common Law offence and as such not rescinded nor overruled by statute.
In addition, whilst you are travelling, your motorhome is your home (albeit temporary though for full-timers it's their permanent home) it can be argued that you would be either imprisoned within your home or forced to leave your home to "escape" the restriction being placed upon your free movement by the S54 offence.

Barry

Good luck with that one.

 

[northernspirit2001]

indeed...

i'm sure this one's been done before ! i've been woken up at 9am in Wales by a woman shouting in a voice like the Queen's, that i was illegally parked and i must therefore leave immediately!
this caused me to break out in hysterical laughter, which made her even angrier. i couldn't speak for laughing and she finally gave up and cleared off,muttering threats and imprecations.
apart from police with machine guns in Portugal and Spain, gendarmes ''allez maintenant!! '' at 2 am, markets being erected around us,trapping us for days, having an illegal rave spring up all round and being bothered by doggers and badger baiters, it's been quite uneventful

Can relate to all those instances except the rave, the market was the one we talk about the most. They were polite but spoke only Italian, gesticulating a move to the edge. Had to wait till lunchtime when the market finished as we were hemmed in.

Our shouty woman was in Tintagel, a dog walker put her dogs in her car, came back banged on the door shouting "freeloaders - get yourself on the campsite and support the local economy", ran to her car and sped off! Shame is we had spent £30 in the local indian restaurant the night before

 

[vindiboy]

We were told to move after one night at San Pedro nr. Marbella early this year by the local Police, very polite they were, they parked behind us for about an hour and at 6 pm they knocked our door and asked us to go, there were 2 other vans there at the time, so off we went and found Mijas Costa, Aire by chance and a great result that was.

 

[vindiboy]

Moved on from here
San Pedro and drove to here Mijas
and stayed a week.

 

[izwozral]

Only been asked to move once and that was after we were told it was ok to stay! It was at a Brunning and Price pub near Clitheroe, asked the duty manager if ok to stay the night, next morning another manager told us we shouldn't have stayed. I wrote to the CEO to clarify matters, his reply was that they don't allow overnight stays at any of their pubs. Pity, because Brunning pubs tend to be very nice places to eat and drink.
Used to overnight regularly in the lower car park in Hawes, now they have painted the one area my mh would fit without fear of getting knocked, with a bay for motorcycles. Drat!
I always ask if it is at a pub or ask a local if there is likely to be a problem if I stayed for ONE night, usually a smile and a chat goes a long way.
We have found Scotland the most accessible place in GB for wilding.

 

[John H]

"False imprisonment" is a Common Law offence and as such not rescinded nor overruled by statute.

There are lots of misconceptions about common law. Some see it as fixed and somehow handed down from on high (in an almost religious way) but the reality is that it has developed and changed over time. When considering any charge brought before them, the courts must first look to see if there is a statute that relates to the case; if there is then they are bound by that statute. If there is not, then they must look to common law, which is established by precedence and must be applied until such time as a higher court re-interprets or until a statute is passed by Parliament. Thus there is no element of our law that cannot be changed.

 

[Deleted member 775]

Good luck with that one.

think you will find only a police officer can detain a member of the public on suspicion of an criminal offence ,even the so called police comunity support officers dont have the power of arrest i beleve ps a special constable has those powers though ,and i doubt if any police officer is going to give two hoots if your parked up where you shouldent be even if you have had a pint or two .anyway parking offences are no longer a police officers concern . its down to the local authority to enforce parking regulations and at midnight in a layby or on a no parking zone ,double yellow lines or whatever they aint going to be arround ,in all the years we have wild camped which has been about 50 years (yep we pitched a tent on scalby mills cliffs and stayed there for a week once) with tents cars and vans even caravans we have never been asked by anybody to move .

 

[jake]

Moved on from here
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excellent result alround !!

 

[Morphology]

RSPB Reserve, Northward Hill, Kent. Parked up for the night. Bang on the door at 7-ish PM, young lad (intern) who said "you can't park here overnight". I explained that I was very sorry, but that there were no notices to the contrary and I was hoping to get out onto the reserve at daybreak to do some photography (possibly true, I've got a camera). He said "well, that's fine then, we're only concerned that you'll be locked in as we lock the gate at the end of the track, so you won't be able to get out until after 08:30. Next time could you let the wardens know at the residential centre over there?".

Nice, peaceful, night ensued.

Morph.

 

[yorkieowl]

(yep we pitched a tent on scalby mills cliffs and stayed there for a week once) with tents cars and vans even caravans we have never been asked by anybody to move .

Scalby Mills isn't that where Colleys Holiday Camp was right on the cliff tops? We went there for a week in the year we got married, got some bowls for the kitchen which I finally got rid of last year after 35 years use :hammer: was a real pit of a place, but we had a few good holidays there for a year or two, housing there now I think.

 

[Deleted member 775]

Scalby Mills isn't that where Colleys Holiday Camp was right on the cliff tops? We went there for a week in the year we got married, got some bowls for the kitchen which I finally got rid of last year after 35 years use :hammer: was a real pit of a place, but we had a few good holidays there for a year or two, housing there now I think.

we piched up above the pub ,i cannot think of its name just off the pathway walk that goes over the cliffs .was an old scout tent that we borrowed from an uncle ,mind you that was back in 1972 just after we had got married . we had an old primus stove to cook on . no sleeping bags but plenty of blankets .and i also remeber sleeping in an old austin maxi back in the 80s on the marine drive on weekends .