Bee Keepers and Asian Hornet

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Hi All....Are there any bee keepers out there or has Asian Hornet been discussed?

I ask because I am a bee keeper and Torbay Bee Keeper's Association , along with many other associations, is setting up an Asian Hornet Action Team to combat the threat the the Asian Hornet (AH) , latin name Vespa velutina (V.v) poses to honey bees and other insects in the UK It could wipe out our honey bees if it becomes established in the UK. We have fought off three attacks over the last two years but its going to be a case of vigilance because it is a real problem in France, Belgium, Spain and Potugal and it could get brought in any time.

Its thought the last attack was from a queen hornet brought in from southern France/Spain and may have traveled by accident in a caravan or motorhome or some camping equipment When it arrived in Woolacombe it started a nest in a hedge and attacked hives nearby.. Some of you may have seen the report by George McGavin on the One Show or the news item on BBC Spotlight.

Asian hornets hawk around hives and snatch honey bees out of the air. They bit of the legs head and abdomen and take the thorax (where all the muscles are) to feed to their young. They need the high protein to develop. AH doesn't just feed on honey bees. They take alll sorts of insect but honey bees are convenient as they gather at hives and as yet our honey bees have not learned to defend themselves from attack. They will eventually but its an evolutionary proces and will take an extremely long time


We need to get caravan and motorhome owners to appreciate that their vehicles may be ways for the AH to get to UK. The queens look for somewhere to hibernate in autumn, and in spring they look for somewhere to nest. Though they prefer high trees for their main nests they will go to any convenient hole or cavity to start a young colony (they will use shed and roof spaces) and then they move there growing colony to a place high in a tree when it is big enough. Some of you may have seen nests (about as big as a street waste bin but round) high in trees as you travel though France and spain. I certainly did last January as we travelled on our fist winter visit to the Algarve, but I never dreamed that my motorhome could provide the means where by a queen hornet could get to England......!

Anyway, please keeep a look out on your travells, and if you do see a large insect investigating your lockers and other spaces in your rigs please spray around some wasp killer, and maybe have a can handy when you get back to UK and clean out the unit before you put it away and get back to normal life.

AND if you see a large darkish brown wasplike insect fly away from your unit get in touch with your local Bee Keeping Association for advice.

There is an app available for Mobiles with which you can identify the Asian Hornet and also report a sighting to the correct authority.and I will post that later. In the mean time you can find lots on Youtube to find out what this hornet looks like.
 
Hi and welcome.
Good opening post.

Any idea what made this, I hope it wasn't the Asian Hornet. I took out of my attic a couple of days ago. P1480543.jpg
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Its thought the last attack was from a queen hornet brought in from southern France/Spain and may have traveled by accident in a caravan or motorhome or some camping equipment When it arrived in Woolacombe it started a nest in a hedge and attacked hives nearby.. Some of you may have seen the report by George McGavin on the One Show or the news item on BBC Spotlight.

Seems like a bit of a leap of faith considering how many lorries come from the continent. Not saying people shouldn't be aware but keep them Asian Hornets down there.
 
Hi All....Are there any bee keepers out there or has Asian Hornet been discussed?

I ask because I am a bee keeper and Torbay Bee Keeper's Association , along with many other associations, is setting up an Asian Hornet Action Team to combat the threat the the Asian Hornet (AH) , latin name Vespa velutina (V.v) poses to honey bees and other insects in the UK It could wipe out our honey bees if it becomes established in the UK. We have fought off three attacks over the last two years but its going to be a case of vigilance because it is a real problem in France, Belgium, Spain and Potugal and it could get brought in any time.

Its thought the last attack was from a queen hornet brought in from southern France/Spain and may have traveled by accident in a caravan or motorhome or some camping equipment When it arrived in Woolacombe it started a nest in a hedge and attacked hives nearby.. Some of you may have seen the report by George McGavin on the One Show or the news item on BBC Spotlight.

Asian hornets hawk around hives and snatch honey bees out of the air. They bit of the legs head and abdomen and take the thorax (where all the muscles are) to feed to their young. They need the high protein to develop. AH doesn't just feed on honey bees. They take alll sorts of insect but honey bees are convenient as they gather at hives and as yet our honey bees have not learned to defend themselves from attack. They will eventually but its an evolutionary proces and will take an extremely long time


We need to get caravan and motorhome owners to appreciate that their vehicles may be ways for the AH to get to UK. The queens look for somewhere to hibernate in autumn, and in spring they look for somewhere to nest. Though they prefer high trees for their main nests they will go to any convenient hole or cavity to start a young colony (they will use shed and roof spaces) and then they move there growing colony to a place high in a tree when it is big enough. Some of you may have seen nests (about as big as a street waste bin but round) high in trees as you travel though France and spain. I certainly did last January as we travelled on our fist winter visit to the Algarve, but I never dreamed that my motorhome could provide the means where by a queen hornet could get to England......!

Anyway, please keeep a look out on your travells, and if you do see a large insect investigating your lockers and other spaces in your rigs please spray around some wasp killer, and maybe have a can handy when you get back to UK and clean out the unit before you put it away and get back to normal life.

AND if you see a large darkish brown wasplike insect fly away from your unit get in touch with your local Bee Keeping Association for advice.

There is an app available for Mobiles with which you can identify the Asian Hornet and also report a sighting to the correct authority.and I will post that later. In the mean time you can find lots on Youtube to find out what this hornet looks like.
Asian hornets are easy to catch,they land at mid day roll out a mat face meca and pray,then just spray them when there heads are down.:scared::lol-053::lol-053::lol-053:
 
Asian hornets are easy to catch,they land at mid day roll out a mat face meca and pray,then just spray them when there heads are down.:scared::lol-053::lol-053::lol-053:

Good one, Trevskoda:lol-049: Actually they are relatively easy to catch, with a kid's fishing net. They are so slow flying that you can scoop them out of the air! In fact this is just the thing to do if you think you have seen one and want to report it to the National Bee Unit (NBU). Catch it in a the net, transfer it to a jar with a wide lid (carefully as they have a sting worse than a wasp) and put it in the freezer to kill it. Then send it to the NBU or other organisations to be found by googling 'Asian Hornet Watch'. They will DNA test it to verify it is Vespa velutina and then they will ask you where you found it and send Bee Inspectors to trace the nest and kill them.

If you don't want to catch one try to get a photo but otherwise get in touch with your local Bee Keeping Association and they will help. It really is important that sightings are reported and we need all the help we can get. Even if you don't care about the bees you won't want Asian Hornets buzzing around the place because their sting can be really serious and they are not like our native European hornet, Vespa crabro, which is yellow and orange/brown in colour, and a shy creature that keeps itself to itself. Asian hornets are like wasps, nosy creatures and always on the lookout for a good meal.

Keep your eyes peeled in the spring, people.
 
We had a queen in our awning over 20 years ago.We were in Provence near the Pont du Gard,it was guarded by massive insects.I had to do something because the kids were young and one of them has a serious reaction to stings and bites.
I smoked it out and then squashed the blighters,someone nearby identified them as Asian Hornets!
 
We had a queen in our awning over 20 years ago.We were in Provence near the Pont du Gard,it was guarded by massive insects.I had to do something because the kids were young and one of them has a serious reaction to stings and bites.
I smoked it out and then squashed the blighters,someone nearby identified them as Asian Hornets!
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This is what the ASIAN HORNET, Vespa velutina (left) and our European Hornet , Vespa Crabro (right) look like. The good guy is all yellow on its hind part with black markings , the BAD GUY is black/brown on its hind part with one yellow band.

Asian hornet first got to France (south west) in 2004, so unless it was there before that, and the authorities didn't know, then your insects wouldn't have been Asian hornet.Could it have been 15 yrs ago ish ?
 
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We had a queen in our awning over 20 years ago.We were in Provence near the Pont du Gard,it was guarded by massive insects.I had to do something because the kids were young and one of them has a serious reaction to stings and bites.
I smoked it out and then squashed the blighters,someone nearby identified them as Asian Hornets!

If it was over 20 years ago if they were hornets they would not have been Asian hornets as they didn't get to France until 2004.
 
We've had Asian Hornets in our garden a couple of years ago.

We never found the nest, but we suspect it was next door. Luckily, they never acted aggressively, if one flew towards us, it seemed to spot us and fly the other way.

They are quite nasty looking things, (if you don't like that sort of thing, and I don't!), and I would rather they were not around, so if they appear again, I will report it.
 
Just hope African Hornets never arrive here. They are large and can be aggressive. One stung me on my Ear and it was like being hit with an 8lb Hammer. :(
 
That explains quite a lot then Jim :hammer: :wacko: :hammer:

Alf


Just hope African Hornets never arrive here. They are large and can be aggressive. One stung me on my Ear and it was like being hit with an 8lb Hammer. :(
 
I imagine hornets venom like bee and wasp stings are an alkali base....
application of vinegar (acetic acid)
neutralises the venom and grants almost instant pain relief.
 
The European hornet is larger and more likely to sting you than the Asian but the European doesn't kill honey bees for feeding their young like the Asian. That alone is the reason for concern to bee keepers. They can kill a entire hive in a few hours.
I know these are Japanese Giant hornets but its what happens.
[video=youtube;EZ1eAM8CChc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ1eAM8CChc[/video]
 
We've had Asian Hornets in our garden a couple of years ago.

We never found the nest, but we suspect it was next door. Luckily, they never acted aggressively, if one flew towards us, it seemed to spot us and fly the other way.

They are quite nasty looking things, (if you don't like that sort of thing, and I don't!), and I would rather they were not around, so if they appear again, I will report it.

I have just been reading through the thread and hadn't seen this post til now and alarm bells are ringing for me.......I don't want to stir up a hornet's nest :)rolleyes:) but it really is serious if they were Asian Hornets!:danger:

Where do you live , Robmac? I ask because I have been saying to people I am working with that they might already be here and we don't know about them because they haven't been seen by any bee keepers or other people who know what they are.

If they built a nest and it survived into the Autumn to produce new queens the they will have dispersed and we have a real problem with that. They may have disappeared for you but they will have made new nests elsewhere.

How do you know they were Asian Hornets? The species we are concerned about is Vespa velutina and there is a picture of it elsewhere on this thread alongside our native Vespa crabro.

Please do come back with more information, Robmac.
 
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I imagine hornets venom like bee and wasp stings are an alkali base....
application of vinegar (acetic acid)
neutralises the venom and grants almost instant pain relief.

I would agree about vinegar for wasps as their sting is alkali based but bee stings are acid based so you apply an alkali.....we find applying a paste of bicarbonate of soda relives bee sting pretty fast......but we have to take our bee suits off first:rolleyes: Yes its surprising how many times you get bees inside your suit! and they can sting through the suit and gloves, though the barb won't hook into you as it does if you get one directly on your skin.

I guess it is logical that as hornets are in the same group as wasps that their stings are alkali based........so to remember if you forget what to use V is for Vespa is for wasp ( pronounced vis a German accent) and V is for Vinegar

So put a bottle of vinegar in your first aid kit for when you get invaided by Asian Hornets:danger::blah:
 
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