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Herbenny

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We bought a basic camera so I could watch the van from the house it’s parked up on the away from the house … it’s not great but I can’t think of any other solution.
Am I allowed to do this legally it’s not looking into anyone’s house apart from slightly looking into next doors front garden.
 

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I have used the Alfred app in the past with an old iPhone 6 and an Android phone. It is useful to use inside the van but then it is too late, the buggers have broken in. I used it when the van was in a workshop.

You could put your existing camera closer or in a better position as long as your wifi still works (assuming it is battery operated, or do what I do now and use a small solar panel to keep the camera charged up).
 
Herbenny said:
We bought a basic camera so I could watch the van from the house it’s parked up on the away from the house … it’s not great but I can’t think of any other solution.
Am I allowed to do this legally it’s not looking into anyone’s house apart from slightly looking into next doors front garden.
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There was an English case around 2020 IIRC where a Ring Doorbell Camera was picking up a near neighbour's property and the camera owner was found guilty. You may want to take legal advice, but if it were me, as a minimum I would talk to your neighbour and explain that you are trying to monitor the M/Home security after recent vandalism; but, that the camera is picking up part of his/her garden. Is he comfortable with the arrangement? Asking nicely now is common courtesy, and if it's only a small area of the garden, a decent neighbour will be likely to co-operate and even empathise with your difficulties. It's the assumption that it's OK without asking beforehand that causes problems

Steve
 
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marchie said:
There was an English case around 2020 IIRC where a Ring Doorbell Camera was picking up a near neighbour's property and the camera owner was found guilty. You may want to take legal advice, but if it were me, as a minimum I would talk to your neighbour and explain that you are trying to monitor the M/Home security after recent vandalism; but, that the camera is picking up part of his/her garden. Is he comfortable with the arrangement? Asking nicely now is common courtesy, and if it's only a small area of the garden, a decent neighbour will be likely to co-operate and even empathise with your difficulties. It's the assumption that it's OK without asking beforehand that causes problems

Steve
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Guilty of what ?
 
As I understood things it was an offence to have a camera sited so that you were recording someone else's property. We had one looking down the drive to front gate, it could see the tarmac lane a, opposite grass verge and hedge so was illegal,. But nobody ever complained. The law was there to stop people recording neighbours back gardens where there would be an expectation of privacy.....but it must be nearly 20 years ago that I installed the camera.
,maybe law has changed since.
 
Thanks all …I maybe need to have a rethink as I can actually see who goes into their garden.
 
marchie said:
There was an English case around 2020 IIRC where a Ring Doorbell Camera was picking up a near neighbour's property and the camera owner was found guilty. You may want to take legal advice, but if it were me, as a minimum I would talk to your neighbour and explain that you are trying to monitor the M/Home security after recent vandalism; but, that the camera is picking up part of his/her garden. Is he comfortable with the arrangement? Asking nicely now is common courtesy, and if it's only a small area of the garden, a decent neighbour will be likely to co-operate and even empathise with your difficulties. It's the assumption that it's OK without asking beforehand that causes problems

Steve
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What you can do with many systems - including Ring - is go into the settings and block the view and recording of certain areas of the camera to avoid any issues of monitoring private property. I had a look at those options just to see them, but have not actually used them myself.

For myself, I have a ring doorbell that also picks up one side of the Motorhome and a shed, another Ring camera in the kitchen that picks up the other side of the motorhome and the driveway. TBH, not really for security but so I can see what is happening without going down two flights of stairs all the time.
I also have had a Blink camera fitted IN the motorhome for a couple of years and at any time can see inside (handy to keep an eye on the cat who loves sleeping in it).


If I had a real need to keep an eye on my van parked on the road, I would not mess around with things like repurposing old phones, I would just get a proper camera like the Ring (or a blink) where footage is viewable via the internet and saved on the cloud for later reference.
 
I have 5 cameras and a ring door bell, and 3 plus the door bell capture parts of the public road and parts of neighbours gardens.
My neighbours are quite happy as it also covers their cars too.
If it is illegal so be it, but stealing my vehicles to me is more illegal than my cameras capturing the public highway.
Several times now we have had police ask if we have captured things when things have happened to neighbours property, and not one of them has said I should change my cameras.
How many times have you seen on crime watch programmes where private Cctv has recorded cars or people on the public highways.
 
RichardHelen262 said:
I have 5 cameras and a ring door bell, and 3 plus the door bell capture parts of the public road and parts of neighbours gardens.
My neighbours are quite happy as it also covers their cars too.
If it is illegal so be it, but stealing my vehicles to me is more illegal than my cameras capturing the public highway.
Several times now we have had police ask if we have captured things when things have happened to neighbours property, and not one of them has said I should change my cameras.
How many times have you seen on crime watch programmes where private Cctv has recorded cars or people on the public highways.
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If you have your neighbour's permission, as GeoffL posts, there is no problem/illegality

Steve
 
My neighbour was really great full when some Scroats nicked his kids bikes one night and my cameras picked them up with nice clear pictures of their faces.
As he had the bikes back within a couple of hours without having to involve the police.
And also Managed to persuade the thieves to stay away from our road
 
All a single camera can record is that it is still there, but not much else as anyone could get in from the other side out of sight.
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Just recorded the vid in full screen with linux simple screen recorder, very handy tip, cheers. (y)
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Can't see how to monitor it on the PC though.
 
Cannot see a problem. We have 3 on the front of the house. 2 pointing in opposite directions so we can see whats happening outside and one pointing down the side of the MH
 
I have 2 Reolink cameras at the front which covered the motorhome. Now they cover our car and the neighbours cars (on both sides). I can check them on my smartphone and my PC.
 
Ours has quite a large field of view. Was told by police not to worry about it as no action would be taken anyway. I did a bit of searching when we first installed cameras and as far as I can tell re data protection, anyone who thinks they may be on the footage, has the right to ask for a copy. (for a fee). But everyone has the right to film/record. The recent issue with a motorhome in Scotland, a member of the public saw said MH on the back of a lowloader, being reversed into a police yard and filmed it. They where challenged by the police officer and told to stop filming. As they where outside the compound looking through a fence, they went to a different officer and asked what the offence was and was told no offence had been committed. Clear as mud. ;)
 
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