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Looser cruiser said:
Headscarves are fine in Scotland and there accents wouldn’t have been the problem. Must have been the wet woolly Arran-knit knickers that done the damage����
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Heh heh, maybe... :)

They were actually chased away and threatened more than once, I'm talking more about out in the sticks, farmsteads etc.
Also it was about 40 years ago, so doubt if there'd not have been much in the way of mainstream sites for caravans/campers back then, which I'm, sure these guys would have mostly been using if they were available. Guess they were doing did a bit of wild camping as well, they would have had to!
 
trevskoda said:
What would happen to me if i were stopped on mainland in van with my accent.:scared::lol-053::lol-053::lol-053:
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Many years ago, my friend purchased a car that had an NI number plate. This was in the days when there wasn't a proliferation of such numbers being used as "cherished numbers", and at the height of the troubles.

She parked it in the railway station car park and when she came back to it a couple of hours later the bomb squad had it surrounded.
 
martinmartin said:
If I remember correctly it was the Blair years which gave gypsy's human Wright's which enabled largley Irish traveling tugging businesses to wreck things for the rest of us.ive seen it for myself , rubbish left by the ton, infact 80 ton not far from me in hull.of course the general public and farmers are weary when a motorhome turns up, strange though in it how a motorhome is confused or associated with a caravan?
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Motorhomes are increasingly popular with the younger travellers since driving licence towing rules changed in 97 and then again in 2013

Channa
 
channa said:
Motorhomes are increasingly popular with the younger travellers since driving licence towing rules changed in 97 and then again in 2013

Channa
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But do they leave shite buy the ton,l don't think so, very few motorhomes are seen if any are seen when the traveling businesses turn up generally in public spaces, and that's the problem , people associating caravans with motorhomes.
 
trevskoda said:
What would happen to me if i were stopped on mainland in van with my accent.:scared::lol-053::lol-053::lol-053:
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In the seventies it would have been bombs,in the eighties guns,in the ninties Coke,in the millennium you would of been stopped for being a timelord Trev 😁
 
In my days in the antiques trade I had a white van and towed a caravan to the shows. We would often stop off for a couple of days on the way home at a CL. Our arrival was often met with strange looks as we rolled up and out jumped the dog and the wife and I with quite weather beaten complexions from three or four days outdoors.
 
as a member of the travelling community it's understood that sometimes you may have to take your kids out of school at short notice for indeterminate periods and you retain that right.
 
We've been approached by police twice in 35 years,both with positive attitudes saying it was OK.Also several occasions been seen by a passing police car which didn't stop.
 
jann said:
We've been approached by police twice in 35 years,both with positive attitudes saying it was OK.Also several occasions been seen by a passing police car which didn't stop.
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Yeah When I’ve been using some Lay-bys for the night Police cars often cruise by, One even parked in front of me for 45 minuets one night with no bother to me, As I said earlier I really don’t think the Police are anything to worry about unless there’s an obvious reason for you to be worried !.
 
Nesting Zombie said:
Yeah When I’ve been using some Lay-bys for the night Police cars often cruise by, One even parked in front of me for 45 minuets one night with no bother to me, As I said earlier I really don’t think the Police are anything to worry about unless there’s an obvious reason for you to be worried !.
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I've just had this mental picture of 2 large rozzers , big boots and hi- vizzed, dancing 45 minuets, on a lay-by.
Was one a lady cop?.. Was there a harpsichordist in the car?:p
 
alcam said:
For the benefit of our lady readers , surely you should tell us if the 'young policeman' was pleasing to the eye also
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My apologies.
The young policeman was very pleasant and presentable and i'm sure was pleasing to the eye also
 
Pauljenny said:
I've just had this mental picture of 2 large rozzers , big boots and hi- vizzed, dancing 45 minuets, on a lay-by.
Was one a lady cop?.. Was there a harpsichordist in the car?:p
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I couldn’t tell if there was a Harpsichordist in the car as I was just Transfixed on the Sequins & Spandex They was wearing, Give them their due, Very Graceful, I don’t know if one was a woman either !,,,But They DID figure out who should Lead !.
 
I’ve got a Genuine Question as I don’t get it,,,
Ok,,Ok Right,
The Public land bit I kinda get, Yep with you in that.
BUT Why shouldn’t it be a Criminal Offence for someone to be on ‘PRIVATE’ land without permission from the land owner the Same as I would hope it would be a criminal offence if someone was caught in my ‘Private’ house (if I had one), or ‘Private’ Office Or Factory Building without the permission of the Owner.

Just asking!
 
Nesting Zombie said:
I’ve got a Genuine Question as I don’t get it,,,
Ok,,Ok Right,
The Public land bit I kinda get, Yep with you in that.
BUT Why shouldn’t it be a Criminal Offence for someone to be on ‘PRIVATE’ land without permission from the land owner the Same as I would hope it would be a criminal offence if someone was caught in my ‘Private’ house (if I had one), or ‘Private’ Office Or Factory Building without the permission of the Owner.

Just asking!
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Trespass is a common law offence breaking into property is criminal ?. Contract law plays a part too re car parks which is why travellers if ever are not pursued.

Nick Freeman, aka Mr Loophole, said all that drivers had to do when parking in council-owned car parks - or on public roads where parking restrictions were in place - was to put a clearly-displayed sign in the car window to state that they were there illegally and were not entering into any contract because no contract entered you cant be in breach of one

complicated stuff, and besides authorities already have remedy think PSPO s in Brighton

Channa

Trespassing is usually a civil wrong and dealt with accordingly. However, in England and Wales certain forms of trespassing, generally those which involve squatters, raves and hunt saboteurs are covered by criminal law. There are offences under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 Sections 61 and 62 of trespassing on land and trespassing with vehicles.

The Legal Aid Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012, section 144 makes squatting in a residential property an offence, where:
•a person entered and remains in the property as a trespasser;
•they know, or ought to know, they are a trespasser and
•they are living in the building and intend to live there for any period.

A person who was originally a tenant would not be guilty of this offence. The police can enter the property to investigate and arrest the offender. The offence carries a penalty of up to 51 weeks' imprisonment or an unlimited fine.

With this in mind, police attendance may be required. Otherwise the owner of the land may need to deal by way of injunction
 
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channa said:
Trespass is a common law offence breaking into property is criminal ?. Contract law plays a part too re car parks which is why travellers if ever are not pursued.

Nick Freeman, aka Mr Loophole, said all that drivers had to do when parking in council-owned car parks - or on public roads where parking restrictions were in place - was to put a clearly-displayed sign in the car window to state that they were there illegally and were not entering into any contract because no contract entered you cant be in breach of one

complicated stuff, and besides authorities already have remedy think PSPO s in Brighton

Channa

Trespassing is usually a civil wrong and dealt with accordingly. However, in England and Wales certain forms of trespassing, generally those which involve squatters, raves and hunt saboteurs are covered by criminal law. There are offences under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 Sections 61 and 62 of trespassing on land and trespassing with vehicles.

The Legal Aid Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012, section 144 makes squatting in a residential property an offence, where:
•a person entered and remains in the property as a trespasser;
•they know, or ought to know, they are a trespasser and
•they are living in the building and intend to live there for any period.

A person who was originally a tenant would not be guilty of this offence. The police can enter the property to investigate and arrest the offender. The offence carries a penalty of up to 51 weeks' imprisonment or an unlimited fine.

With this in mind, police attendance may be required. Otherwise the owner of the land may need to deal by way of injunction
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As above civil trespass is a world away from criminal trespass (usually when a 'business' can argue that folks trespassing have impacted their legitimate business actions....

Railways/waterworks/mines/electrical etc etc....
 
Ahhh, ok,,But (Sorry I really am a bit slow)

To my mind as an example-
If I had a Piece of Privately owned land, That had a Locked Gate as the enterance To it, It ‘Should’ be exactly the same as Breaking & Entering a Privately owned Building if I then found Un invited People on it without my permission, Therefore A CRIMINAL offence Surely !.

Seriously what am I missing Here ?.
 
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