Anyone out in Storm Debi?

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In the vans I mean.

Currently sandwiched between two mountains on the foothills of Helvellyn in the Lake District in the Thirlmere Valley

Its not been as bad as I feared so far. I think with the wind coming from the west the mountain opposite is is perhaps sheltering us a bit. We had one clap of thunder earlier this morning and the power went off for a few seconds and occasionally if the wind backs from the south its horrendous. There was one gust half an hour ago that was pretty alarming. Whole van felt like it was going to take off then it just went.

Worse is yet to come around 1pm I think. My biggest worry is a power cut. Im not convinced the gas fire will light.
 
In the vans I mean.

Currently sandwiched between two mountains on the foothills of Helvellyn in the Lake District in the Thirlmere Valley

Its not been as bad as I feared so far. I think with the wind coming from the west the mountain opposite is is perhaps sheltering us a bit. We had one clap of thunder earlier this morning and the power went off for a few seconds and occasionally if the wind backs from the south its horrendous. There was one gust half an hour ago that was pretty alarming. Whole van felt like it was going to take off then it just went.

Worse is yet to come around 1pm I think. My biggest worry is a power cut. Im not convinced the gas fire will light.
They sell things called matches these days 😂
 
Not going to keep warm with a match dummy :rolleyes: :rolleyes:, not unless she's energetic anyway.

I think we might be lucky to keep the conservatory roof but even though we do get a lot of strong winds here it's the strongest we've had today.
 
Not going to keep warm with a match dummy :rolleyes: :rolleyes:, not unless she's energetic anyway.

I think we might be lucky to keep the conservatory roof but even though we do get a lot of strong winds here it's the strongest we've had today.
Blowing a hooley here to, iv tied the kids down just incase.
 
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My biggest worry is a power cut. Im not convinced the gas fire will light.

Remember the 7P's, "Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance"

A few suggestions for your consideration:-
1) Unplug the EHU and try lighting the gas fire.
If it works you will have nothing to worry about / If it doesn't work you will have time and day light to think what to do.
I suspect it will work without 230v because you tend not to have 230 when wilding

2) Heat the water in the tank, so it will act as a storage heater.

3)) Make sure that you have a torch and spare batteries available

4) Check where your warm clothing is and plan what you will ware

5) Fill flask with hot drinks.

6) Make sure water and fuel tanks are full and waste is empty.

7) Buy candles, MATCHES & prophylactics !
 
Not bothered what the storm does. It was a lovely Autumnal morning while we had the dogs out for their daily walk. Now we are all snug and warm at home ..... except for the Wife of course. She is out shopping but I guess she will turn up ..... eventually. :giggle:
 
I am parked up on Salisbury Plain in the van. Bit windy and rocking a bit but no bother. Why do they insist on naming weather these days?
 
I am parked up on Salisbury Plain in the van. Bit windy and rocking a bit but no bother. Why do they insist on naming weather these days?
The naming of storms has been going on for centuries - as far back, in fact, as the 1500s. Saints were a popular choice back then; a hurricane hit Puerto Rico on 4 October 1526 as the Catholic feast day of St Francis of Assisi was being celebrated - so the storm was named San Francisco.
It is thought that the first meteorologist to officially give storms names was the widely travelled Clement Wragge. Born in Staffordshire, he moved to Australia and initially used characters from Greek and Roman mythology. But when the government of the day failed to appoint him director of a new meteorological bureau, he showed his frustration by naming some of the cyclones in the southern hemisphere after Australian politicians.

In the late 1940s, the US Air Force Hurricane Office in Miami, Florida began to name tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic using the phonetic spelling alphabet. At the time, these were just for internal communications and not released to the public. Confusion soon began when the phonetic alphabet of the time (Able; Baker; Charlie; Dog; Easy; Fox etc) changed to a less anglicised version which is closer to the one we know today (Alpha; Bravo; Charlie; Delta).
To avoid arguments, it was decided to use women's names for the storms. It was also thought it would be less confusing for the US Air Force radio announcers to use something different to the phonetic alphabet to describe weather systems, as the phonetic alphabet would also be used for other military communications.
By the early 1950s, US meteorologists began to realise that using short, easily-remembered names was a simple, effective way to communicate the potential impacts of major storms. This was especially important when two or more were happening at the same time, so the National Hurricane Center started officially naming tropical cyclones. Women's names alone were used for two more decades, but since 1979 they have alternated with men's.
After the change was made, a Princeton University study in 2014 suggested feminine-named hurricanes caused "significantly more deaths, apparently because they lead to lower perceived risk and consequently less preparedness".

In 2015, the UK Met Office and the Republic of Ireland weather service, Met Éireann, decided to follow in the footsteps of their US counterparts. They launched the "Name Our Storms" campaign, in the hope of raising public awareness of severe weather. A Met Office spokeswoman said, "People are latching on to the names. They've been particularly effective at gaining attention on social media, including groups who were previously 'harder to reach'."
The Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) also joined the initiative in 2019. Director General Gerard van der Steenhoven said, "As storms are not confined to national borders, it makes a lot of sense to give common names to such extreme weather events."

A storm is named when it has the potential to trigger an amber/orange or red warning and have "substantial" impact. However, it starts to get a little tricky at this stage as the separate agencies have slightly different criteria when it comes to issuing a warning.
The UK Met Office warning system is based on potential impacts from severe weather and the likelihood of such events happening. Both Met Éireann and KMNI use a combination of numerical-based criteria and potential impact when deciding whether or not to issue a warning. For example, widespread wind gusts of up to 80mph in Ireland would warrant an orange warning from Met Éireann, whereas the UK Met Office would consider only the impacts of the same gusts before issuing an amber warning.

Factors the UK Met Office would take into account include the time of year - stronger winds in summer or autumn would have a greater impact as the trees are still in full leaf. Also the location - is the stormy weather hitting an area of high population which would again have an effect on more people? It is also worth noting that the three agencies each cover distinct geographical areas and severe weather will not always affect all areas.
Whilst storms are often named due to wind strength, rain and snow will also be considered if impacts could lead to flooding or disruption.

Each year, the three meteorological agencies ask members of the public for their favourite names and the list is compiled from these suggestions, reflecting the diversity across the different countries. Storms are named in alphabetical order and since the initiative started back in 2015 we have not gone further than K - Storm Katie, which hit the UK on Easter Monday 2016. So if your name starts with a letter towards the end of the alphabet it is highly unlikely ever to be used.

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France, Spain and Portugal also name storms which affect their area, much like the UK Met Office, Met Éireann and KMNI - the idea is that countries cluster together based on similar meteorology. This explains why sometimes a storm name may appear in the UK's media which seems out of place. A more unified European naming system is unlikely, as storms in the Mediterranean, for example, would never come towards the UK.
Occasionally, we will see remnants of hurricanes or tropical storms moving across the Atlantic. When this happens we would refer to the name they were given by the National Hurricane Center in the US to avoid confusion. Like the US, we also do not use the letters Q, U, X, Y and Z, although here in the UK it is quite unlikely we would get that far in the alphabet anyway.
 
The naming of storms has been going on for centuries - as far back, in fact, as the 1500s. Saints were a popular choice back then; a hurricane hit Puerto Rico on 4 October 1526 as the Catholic feast day of St Francis of Assisi was being celebrated - so the storm was named San Francisco.
It is thought that the first meteorologist to officially give storms names was the widely travelled Clement Wragge. Born in Staffordshire, he moved to Australia and initially used characters from Greek and Roman mythology. But when the government of the day failed to appoint him director of a new meteorological bureau, he showed his frustration by naming some of the cyclones in the southern hemisphere after Australian politicians.

In the late 1940s, the US Air Force Hurricane Office in Miami, Florida began to name tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic using the phonetic spelling alphabet. At the time, these were just for internal communications and not released to the public. Confusion soon began when the phonetic alphabet of the time (Able; Baker; Charlie; Dog; Easy; Fox etc) changed to a less anglicised version which is closer to the one we know today (Alpha; Bravo; Charlie; Delta).
To avoid arguments, it was decided to use women's names for the storms. It was also thought it would be less confusing for the US Air Force radio announcers to use something different to the phonetic alphabet to describe weather systems, as the phonetic alphabet would also be used for other military communications.
By the early 1950s, US meteorologists began to realise that using short, easily-remembered names was a simple, effective way to communicate the potential impacts of major storms. This was especially important when two or more were happening at the same time, so the National Hurricane Center started officially naming tropical cyclones. Women's names alone were used for two more decades, but since 1979 they have alternated with men's.
After the change was made, a Princeton University study in 2014 suggested feminine-named hurricanes caused "significantly more deaths, apparently because they lead to lower perceived risk and consequently less preparedness".

In 2015, the UK Met Office and the Republic of Ireland weather service, Met Éireann, decided to follow in the footsteps of their US counterparts. They launched the "Name Our Storms" campaign, in the hope of raising public awareness of severe weather. A Met Office spokeswoman said, "People are latching on to the names. They've been particularly effective at gaining attention on social media, including groups who were previously 'harder to reach'."
The Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) also joined the initiative in 2019. Director General Gerard van der Steenhoven said, "As storms are not confined to national borders, it makes a lot of sense to give common names to such extreme weather events."

A storm is named when it has the potential to trigger an amber/orange or red warning and have "substantial" impact. However, it starts to get a little tricky at this stage as the separate agencies have slightly different criteria when it comes to issuing a warning.
The UK Met Office warning system is based on potential impacts from severe weather and the likelihood of such events happening. Both Met Éireann and KMNI use a combination of numerical-based criteria and potential impact when deciding whether or not to issue a warning. For example, widespread wind gusts of up to 80mph in Ireland would warrant an orange warning from Met Éireann, whereas the UK Met Office would consider only the impacts of the same gusts before issuing an amber warning.

Factors the UK Met Office would take into account include the time of year - stronger winds in summer or autumn would have a greater impact as the trees are still in full leaf. Also the location - is the stormy weather hitting an area of high population which would again have an effect on more people? It is also worth noting that the three agencies each cover distinct geographical areas and severe weather will not always affect all areas.
Whilst storms are often named due to wind strength, rain and snow will also be considered if impacts could lead to flooding or disruption.

Each year, the three meteorological agencies ask members of the public for their favourite names and the list is compiled from these suggestions, reflecting the diversity across the different countries. Storms are named in alphabetical order and since the initiative started back in 2015 we have not gone further than K - Storm Katie, which hit the UK on Easter Monday 2016. So if your name starts with a letter towards the end of the alphabet it is highly unlikely ever to be used.

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France, Spain and Portugal also name storms which affect their area, much like the UK Met Office, Met Éireann and KMNI - the idea is that countries cluster together based on similar meteorology. This explains why sometimes a storm name may appear in the UK's media which seems out of place. A more unified European naming system is unlikely, as storms in the Mediterranean, for example, would never come towards the UK.
Occasionally, we will see remnants of hurricanes or tropical storms moving across the Atlantic. When this happens we would refer to the name they were given by the National Hurricane Center in the US to avoid confusion. Like the US, we also do not use the letters Q, U, X, Y and Z, although here in the UK it is quite unlikely we would get that far in the alphabet anyway.

The Royal family named Captain Mark Phillips after the weather.

Apparently they called him 'Foggy' - Because he's thick and wet.
 

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