All season tyres v camping tyres

Back to OP - at the gross weight quoted and if considerable proportion of winter season running I see no reason to not use Cross Climate of appropriate load rating.
 
channa said:
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It was suggested that were side walls are weak and correct inflation becomes important, the foot print becomes compromised the middle part of the tyre footprint bows ( look at the wildcamping w and imagine that’s the tyres cross section ) possibly why the ride can be less than ideal ?............................
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I would suggest that correct pressures are paramount to correct tyre wear and handling. That Michelin rep may be good at selling tyres but his weak tyre wall comments seem a little odd.
If your vehicle is in good mechanical condition and tyre pressures are correct, the tyre tread will wear down evenly. Too little pressure and the outer tread will wear quickly, too much pressure and the centre tread will wear quicker.
If Michelin make tyres with weak sidewalls, I suggest you avoid them.
 
cronkle said:
I think the point I was trying to make was that the tyre pressures that were advised were accurate hence the even wear. This is at odds with the advice given by Michelin which is that whatever the load the rears on a m'home should always be 79psi. The reason they give for this is because they assume that all m'homers overload their vans. My little van would bounce down the road if inflated that hard.
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Agreed! They tell you to overinflate because they're scared you'll underinflate, which is unsafe.
The ONLY way to determine the correct tyre pressures is to load up full, then get both axles weighed. Then you can calculate the correct pressure.
The difference the correct pressure makes is amazing: better ride, better handling, fewer rattles, more comfort, longer-lasting tyres. What's not to like?
 
Trying to work out what engine type is on our old autosleeper.

Looking at a website that recommends tyres depending on your vehicle type.

Have to admit to being a total ignoramus here.
I know it's a peugeot boxer 320 MWB 2.5 diesel engine (not a turbo or injection - at least I don't think it is!))
but there are further variants on this website that you have to select first and I have no idea what they're talking about, see below:-

2.5 D (5/118)
2.5 D (5/130)

PS. This is the link to the website page: https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyres-for/peugeot/boxer/van/i
 
Snapster said:
I would suggest that correct pressures are paramount to correct tyre wear and handling. That Michelin rep may be good at selling tyres but his weak tyre wall comments seem a little odd.
If your vehicle is in good mechanical condition and tyre pressures are correct, the tyre tread will wear down evenly. Too little pressure and the outer tread will wear quickly, too much pressure and the centre tread will wear quicker.
If Michelin make tyres with weak sidewalls, I suggest you avoid them.
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No one was suggesting Michelin tyres had weak sidewalls . What was suggested is their construction allows that the the downward pressure exerted on the side walls on inferior tyres can cause the tread part to bow forming a W shape losing grip on the centre part of the tread
 
mariesnowgoose said:
Trying to work out what engine type is on our old autosleeper.

Looking at a website that recommends tyres depending on your vehicle type.

Have to admit to being a total ignoramus here.
I know it's a peugeot boxer 320 MWB 2.5 diesel engine (not a turbo or injection - at least I don't think it is!))
but there are further variants on this website that you have to select first and I have no idea what they're talking about, see below:-

2.5 D (5/118)
2.5 D (5/130)

PS. This is the link to the website page: https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyres-for/peugeot/boxer/van/i
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I guess either engine bop and wheelbase but a total guess
 
mariesnowgoose said:
Trying to work out what engine type is on our old autosleeper.

Looking at a website that recommends tyres depending on your vehicle type.

Have to admit to being a total ignoramus here.
I know it's a peugeot boxer 320 MWB 2.5 diesel engine (not a turbo or injection - at least I don't think it is!))
but there are further variants on this website that you have to select first and I have no idea what they're talking about, see below:-

2.5 D (5/118)
2.5 D (5/130)

PS. This is the link to the website page: https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyres-for/peugeot/boxer/van/i
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Pretty sure (5/118) is a light chassis on 15" wheels, while the (5/130) is the maxi chassis on 16" wheels
 
mariesnowgoose said:
Trying to work out what engine type is on our old autosleeper.

Looking at a website that recommends tyres depending on your vehicle type.

Have to admit to being a total ignoramus here.
I know it's a peugeot boxer 320 MWB 2.5 diesel engine (not a turbo or injection - at least I don't think it is!))
but there are further variants on this website that you have to select first and I have no idea what they're talking about, see below:-

2.5 D (5/118)
2.5 D (5/130)

PS. This is the link to the website page: https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyres-for/peugeot/boxer/van/i
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I think you may need to look at your tyres to see what size they are currently. There is a chart in here https://www.tyresafe.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/motorhome-leaflet.pdf that will show you what means what. Hope you find it useful.
 
cronkle said:
The first time I came across camping specific tyres was about 20 years ago and because I am that sort of person I asked Michelin what was so special about them. The reason they gave then was that many motorhomes stand for long periods without use and were likely to develop flat spots. Since then I have heard they say it's to do with extra protection against kerbing (I think m'home owners are more likely to take care of their tyres than a lot of the white van men I know) and to allow for the overloading that they have decided motorhome owners of the world are likely to indulge in.
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And thats why i tell folk who leave the van standing over winter to jack it up and put it on axle stands,if like me i use mine and turn it in the driveway every day or two then no worries on flat spots.
 
cronkle said:
As I understand it the manufacturers are able to predict how each of their tyres will deform at the various loadings and pressures to give the optimum footprint. I do have Continental CPs on my van and will stick with them as they work well for me - I do a lot of motorway driving and rarely go onto soft wet ground. The important thing for me is that I am used to them and know how they will react in different circumstances (braking and cornering etc). I stick fairly closely to the recommended pressures from Continental and was pleased to see that when I replaced my fronts at 40,000 miles the wear pattern was near perfect. If this is typical of Contintal's attention to detail I'm happy to stick with their products.
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40.000 on a set of tyres,if i get 10.000 out of a tyre i would be happy,van changes year and a half back and now on 2mm marker bar, my car two sets in under 30.000 miles.
 
Boy racer!

The 40,000 was only the fronts. The rears are still going strong and will be changed in the autumn at 6 years. They've been on since new. You can see why I don't want to change manufacturers can't you.
 
My van, new in 2016, came with Michelin Aglis cp tyres. I have run the rears at 80psi as recommended. The fronts are running at 65psi. These figures are quite close to my weighbridge figures.
I had 32,000 miles from the front tyres. I possibly could have run on for a while yet, but they were getting close to the minimum tread as I approached the MOT, so rather than mess about for the sake of less than 1mm to the legal limit I just bought the same again. Like Cronkle, my rear tyres are still good for a while yet at about 7mm of tread left.
I don’t subscribe to the theory that cp tyres are simply a method of profiteering by the tyre companies, the Motorhome market must be a tiny proportion of their marketplace, particularly when so many seem content to run on van tyres.
I did run my last van, 3500kg, on Toyo HO9s but my current van is 3850kg and a hell of a lot more expensive, so I am happy to pay the extra for purpose made rubber.

Davy
 
You do know that tyres which last to long are to hard to give good grip,and yes i do drive hard.;)
 
trevskoda said:
You do know that tyres which last to long are to hard to give good grip,and yes i do drive hard.;)
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When I were a lad we had a car with Pirelli tyres on it. P6s or 8s or something. Lasted 30,000 or so. It went in for a new set, front and back. She took advice from a young tyre fitter and came away with P600s or 800s that wore out after 12,000 miles. Same levels of use and no real difference in performance. As long as they handle and brake well enough for the sort of driving I do my van tyres are good enough for me. The right-ups on the ones I have always been favourable.

(the make numbers quoted may not be accurate. No tyres were harmed during the writing of this post)
 
I run maxxis vansmart all season on our van conversion really happy with the noise levels and they don’t break the bank
 
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