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***** said:
The Family four was a descendant from the 535/536
I also owned a Shetland, it was a 570 and I had a 100 hp Johnson on the back.
The transom was beefed of to take it with brackets to and through the floor
Not trying to outdo, but I would seriously have to have a real think to remember how many boats I have owned.
But, I was in the trade for over 25 years and also had boats before and after.
Money pit, but luckily at discounted prices
Remember Ladyline
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I don't remember Ladyline Graham, although I think I should for some reason.

Favorites of mine were a Seamaster 27, a Hardy 20 Family Pilot and a IP 23. I currently have a Viking 20 which doesn't have the character of the others but does have all mod cons and is a good little river boat.

Got to disagree with Trev on one point though, Honda's are great little outboards and in my opinion the best. I've owned several and they have never let me down. My viking has a Honda 20 on the back and it purrs like a kitten.
 
***** said:
Strange enough, the old Chrysler 9.9 and 20hp were OK in their day for a grp canal boat.
Sold many and they were pretty reliable.
Remember the old Perkins.
My first boat had a Perkins 6hp and it was a good one!
The larger engines were pretty shitty as Perkins used old dyes to manufacture from
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I nearly bought a Broom 30 once Graham. It had an apparently rare model of Perkins engine which was massively over engineered (or so I was assured by an engineering friend). I was never a fan of BMC which a lot of boats had fitted. These days, I'd rather have a 4 stroke outboard than a diesel lump as I'm sure that emissions will come into play on the river before long.
 
***** said:
Rob, I remember Broom (Jack Broom)
Regarding the environment.
I always thought the French were leading us and used pump out stations on their canal network, but over the last few years I have noticed the majority just dump into the canal.
Not a good place to be handling the lines.:tongue::scared:
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They still use sea toilets on the Great Ouse where I live!

Not me though.
 
Nabsim said:
That surprised me Bill. I have experienced petrol going off a few times but never thought one month was the life in a fuel tank. I didn’t know they actually acknowledged it happened until you posted that link either.
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I think the problem was most apparent with two stroke and it was not uncommon for the jets to get partially blocked if the carb was not run dry before storage.
 
trevskoda said:
The airotomics evaporate<which give the bang its speed in burning cylinder> and also die with a short shelf life,yes if carbs clean some engines or most engines will run but pinking or pre ignition may happen which can eat pistons and leave the head in a mess,fuel inj sys seem to fair better.
The other prob is water which the new fuel sucks like a thursty camel at a water hole,never half fill tanks and store,us all you have in them and any left put on the weeds.
Each year my workshop is full of dead engines with stale fuel and water in tanks,i am lucky long may it continue,££££££££££ for me.
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I had small outboards on my sailing boats for over 30 years , never had a problem with gumming up carbs after winter storage . always run the engine til it stopped tightened the tank vent then stored the engines inside the boat on the hard .tank was air tight so no evaporation carb was empty and dry .all 2 stroke 4 HP always started come spring .never once drained the tank, sold up in 2013 has petrol gone bad since 2013 .some boat owners did have problems some did not .only problems I had was slow running easily sorted with a carb clean .caused by dirty fuel tanks probably rust . sorry poster for going off topic. Bazz
 
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molly 2 said:
I had small outboards on my sailing boats for over 30 years , never had a problem with gumming up carbs after winter storage . always run the engine til it stopped tightened the tank vent then stored the engines inside the boat on the hard .tank was air tight so no evaporation carb was empty and dry .all 2 stroke 4 HP always started come spring .never once drained the tank, sold up in 2013 has petrol gone bad since 2013 .some boat owners did have problems some did not .only problems I had was slow running easily sorted with a carb clean .caused by dirty fuel tanks probably rust . sorry poster for going off topic. Bazz
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The composition of petrol has changed in the last few years and petrol does not last these days.

I have had to replace the Carburetor on a spare lawnmower and had to replace the Carburetor on my standby honda generator,

try not to keep petrol for more than 3 months.

Stale petrol destroys small engines.
 
maxi77 said:
I think the problem was most apparent with two stroke and it was not uncommon for the jets to get partially blocked if the carb was not run dry before storage.
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When I have had problems it has been mainly 4 stroke engines, 750 and 850 reliant and 1600 Volkswagen, engines were in trike frames though and it was after they had been left over winter
 
ref Shelf life of Petrol, anyone tried this stuff? - Briggs & Stratton Fuel Fit Additive/Stabiliser. 992381: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

" Keeps fuel fresh for up to 3 years
Fuel Fit not only keeps the carburettor clean for easy starting but now also protects against the corrosive effects of ethanol
Detergent ingredients to prevent gum and varnish build-up on engine parts
Metal de-activators which stop chemical reactions caused by dissolved metals in fuel
Corrosion inhibitor that forms a protective barrier on metal parts against harmful effects of ethanol-water mix
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sounds good. one 250ml bottle will treat 25L of petrol. Adds 25p per litre to the petrol cost, so not cheap but has very good reviews.
 
***** said:
I couldn't see it too well, but I don't think it is either of those!
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No its a marina 16 with a old 50 4 pot merc on its tail,many people advertise these as mariners which of course there not,they handle extremely well and a tad lighter that the shetland 535.
 
Used this stuff for years in my garden tools... it seems to work OK. Steve.. Obanboy666 uses it as well

Alf


wildebus said:
ref Shelf life of Petrol, anyone tried this stuff? - Briggs & Stratton Fuel Fit Additive/Stabiliser. 992381: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

" Keeps fuel fresh for up to 3 years
Fuel Fit not only keeps the carburettor clean for easy starting but now also protects against the corrosive effects of ethanol
Detergent ingredients to prevent gum and varnish build-up on engine parts
Metal de-activators which stop chemical reactions caused by dissolved metals in fuel
Corrosion inhibitor that forms a protective barrier on metal parts against harmful effects of ethanol-water mix
"
sounds good. one 250ml bottle will treat 25L of petrol. Adds 25p per litre to the petrol cost, so not cheap but has very good reviews.
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Here is a video you might find interesting, it might be worth testing your own fuel set jollop,

K100 vs Stabil Fuel Stabilizer - Which One Controls Moisture?

[video=youtube;MexPdjbg-H8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MexPdjbg-H8[/video]
 
Alf, *****,
Thanks for that feedback. The reviews sound very promising but always good to have direct confirmation.

Do you use as directed? 10ml per Litre or vary from that recommendation?
 
I can remember a neighbor bought a new briggs and Stratton mower, put B&S fuel set in the tank for the first winter and the petrol had gone off in the spring.

He was mightily pissed off.

[video=youtube;MexPdjbg-H8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=MexPdjbg-H8[/video]
 
Yes as stated on the bottle...... it's got a measuring whatsit on the side

Alf. 👍


wildebus said:
Alf, *****,
Thanks for that feedback. The reviews sound very promising but always good to have direct confirmation.

Do you use as directed? 10ml per Litre or vary from that recommendation?
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Large companies such as B & Q and Argos have warehouses full of returned petrol machines all returned by people that don't understand the starting technique of petrol machines,..most blame fuel or faulty spark...... You can make a very good living buying these in palet loads.

Alf


harrow said:
I can remember a neighbor bought a new briggs and Stratton mower, put B&S fuel set in the tank for the first winter and the petrol had gone off in the spring.

He was mightily pissed off.

[video=youtube;MexPdjbg-H8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=MexPdjbg-H8[/video]
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Correct noise. Noise and more Noise. Earlier this year one clown started he's up 7am I should have thrown it in the sea with him tied to it.
Just saying
 
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