70 years old and motorhomes over 3500kgs

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70 years old and motorhomes over 3500kgs

Some of you have got this or have renewed their Licence - what do you have to do? I already have C1 on my licence but I'm 70 next year
 
We knew we had this problem 2 years before Tez was 70,changed the van to a 3.5t van.
He didn't want the hassle of medicals.
Might not be possible for you though?
 
Just going through it now.

I'm 70 this month.

Car licence you can renew online if you have a digital passport, that's how I did mine.

Group 2 licences (C and C1) require the full medical, look for Form D4 on the web:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/490689/D4_231115.pdf

Helpful notes:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/492335/INF4D_091115.pdf

My C1 and C1+E and my Class 2 HGV are pending renewal as I cannot take the full medical pending post-heart and cancer surgery, but I have it in writing from DVLA that I will be able to renew after my birthday, subject to the medical and any further investigation that they feel is required.

The medical is a full one, I get my eyesight section carried out by my optician.

If you are fit, there's nothing to worry about, just the cost of the medical, the licence renewal is free.

It was while taking my HGV medical at the end of 2014 that I found out about my dicky heart valve, so not a bad thing really.

Peter
 
Could someone clarify for me please... as understand it if I have an ordinary car license and drive a van which is less than 3.5 tons (is that empty or full laden weight?) I wont need to do anything about a medical when i reach the magic age ?

thanks
 
baloothebear said:
70 years old and motorhomes over 3500kgs

Some of you have got this or have renewed their Licence - what do you have to do? I already have C1 on my licence but I'm 70 next year
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You will get a renewal form from the DVLA about 90 days before your licence is due for renewal. If you wish to only drive up to 3500kg (B) then fill in the form or go online and renew your licence. The C1 entitlement will be removed.

If you wish to keep C1/D1 then you will have to go online to DVLA and request a D2/D4 pack at Order DVLA forms - GOV.UK. You will need to book a private medical and the doctor fills in the D4 form. If you wish you can book an appointment at an optician for the eyesight part of the D4 form, if so do it before your doctors medical. Send your completed license renewal notice together with D2 and D4 make sure they are fully completed to DVLA about a month before your licence expires.

In my opinion it is best to go to your own doctor, but you can book a cheaper one with a mobile HGV doctor. The DVLA may request information only your doctor has on record so there could be delays if you go elsewhere.

There is nothing lost if you don't get the licence back by the renewal date,
You can drive while your licence is being renewed if you meet all the following conditions:
##you have the support of your doctor to continue driving
##you had a valid licence
##you only drive under the conditions of the previous licence
##your application is less than a year old
##your last licence wasn’t revoked or refused for medical reasons
##you’re not currently disqualified
##you weren’t disqualified as a high risk offender on or after 1 June 2013

Read the guidance ‘Can I drive while my application is with DVLA?’ for more information. available online on the page quoted above for the forms.

I am about to go through the process again at 73.
 
delicagirl said:
Could someone clarify for me please... as understand it if I have an ordinary car license and drive a van which is less than 3.5 tons (is that empty or full laden weight?) I wont need to do anything about a medical when i reach the magic age ?

thanks
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It is the fully laden weight that counts even if the van is empty. A "B" licence covers up to 3,500kg MGVW. You need "C1" up to 7,500kg and "C" over that. Passenger Vehicle (Bus Minibus) is "D1" up to 16 passenger seats and "D" over that.

You will need to self declare your health status at renewal at 70 for a B licence or have an HGV medical for C, C1, D or D1.
 
thanks john - what is MGVW ?

since my van was imported and there are no weights written on the registration log book, how can anyone, including me, knows its weight ? will I be asked to produce a weighbridge ticket to prove it ?
 
Maximum Gross Vehicle Weight

There should be a chassis plate on the slam panel in the front or on the door pillar giving gross weight, axle 1, axle 2 and gross train weights.

Peter
 
delicagirl said:
Could someone clarify for me please... as understand it if I have an ordinary car license and drive a van which is less than 3.5 tons (is that empty or full laden weight?) I wont need to do anything about a medical when i reach the magic age ?

thanks[/QUOTE 3-5 tonnes is the MAXIMUM, that the van can ever weigh.No medical required to drive this over 70.
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trishandtez said:
We knew we had this problem 2 years before Tez was 70,changed the van to a 3.5t van.
He didn't want the hassle of medicals.
Might not be possible for you though?
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I have a medical every year, hgv/psv (over 65). Cost for medical anything between £60-£130. Surely must be cheaper than changing the motorhome?
 
Robert mcmurray said:
I have a medical every year, hgv/psv (over 65). Cost for medical anything between £60-£130. Surely must be cheaper than changing the motorhome?
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I agree with you but there were other factors included that made us change. Not just the overweight one.
Just adding our reason.
 
delicagirl said:
thanks john - what is MGVW ?

since my van was imported and there are no weights written on the registration log book, how can anyone, including me, knows its weight ? will I be asked to produce a weighbridge ticket to prove it ?
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My vehicle is a Hymer B544. on the V5 doc it states 3500kg, on the slam panel vin plate it states 4000kg and on the Alco chassis plate is states 4000kg. On investigating via DVLA their reply was the V5 is the correct weight? Err right?
I never have been asked for vehicle docs, re weight, in 48 years of driving,
 
listerdiesel said:
Maximum Gross Vehicle Weight

There should be a chassis plate on the slam panel in the front or on the door pillar giving gross weight, axle 1, axle 2 and gross train weights.

Peter
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Thanks ... all the info on the doors pillars is in Japanese and I dont know what a slam panel is could you explain please ? thank s
 
delicagirl said:
Thanks ... all the info on the doors pillars is in Japanese and I dont know what a slam panel is could you explain please ? thank s
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Slam panel is the part that the bonnet shuts on to.

Can you take a picture of the door pillar labels and post it?

Normally you're looking for four weights: All-up or gross weight, axle 1 (front) and axle 2 (rear) plus gross train weight which is your vehicle plus trailer max weight.

Peter
 
Polar Bear said:
My vehicle is a Hymer B544. on the V5 doc it states 3500kg, on the slam panel vin plate it states 4000kg and on the Alco chassis plate is states 4000kg. On investigating via DVLA their reply was the V5 is the correct weight? Err right?
I never have been asked for vehicle docs, re weight, in 48 years of driving,
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And there's the anomaly with the law,according to the manufacturers of the motorhome and chassis you are safely capable of a MGVW up to 4000kg yet according to the V5 you could be prosecuted for being above 3500kg.I've also never been asked about vehicle weights,nor been pulled in for a roadside check.
 
Keep it simple

If you can and stay under 3500KG.
Not only Licence problems but vignette issues or the like if over 3500kg

I appreciate many like a bigger heavier MH but ....
 
delicagirl said:
Thanks ... all the info on the doors pillars is in Japanese and I dont know what a slam panel is could you explain please ? thank s
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Most Japanese vehicles have a chassis/build plate under the carpet in the cab and/or a vin plate under the bonnet riveted onto a horizontal surface.
Not sure Delica's have weights on them though?
 
Looking at the models up to 2000, none are going to be over 3500kg, it's too small a vehicle.

Peter
 
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