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trevskoda said:
Yes prob but you have the choise, i do agree on speeders being stopped or a fine, but what i do find is some roads have silly restrictions, either to fast or too slow, or a silly change within 50 yards, one here is 40 then 50 and 30 all within 100 yards.
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I'll see your silly speed limit and doublr it, Trev ... 20mph then striaght to 50mph [on steep short ascent], and 20mph to 40mph on the descent at the other end. But, this is Fife, which stands for flaming idiots flaming everywhere [other f words are available] :eek:

If people drive in accordance with the speed limit, there should be no risk, so your example of the lorry driver about to cut you up shouldn't occur, because he or she would be driving without due care and attention

And I have been cut up by bikers tear-arsing through 30mph and then forcing their way into a nn-existent gap more times than I can recall. And when one ends up in the mortuary because he was riding like an onanist until his/her luck ran out, I feel nothing. And I am ex-biker who rode within the limits because I quite like the way my creator arranged my legs, arms and head, and it's not fair on the surgeons to present them with a jigsaw puzzle without a picture and expect them to get it perfectly right ...

Steve
 
marchie said:
I'll see your silly speed limit and doublr it, Trev ... 20mph then striaght to 50mph [on steep short ascent], and 20mph to 40mph on the descent at the other end. But, this is Fife, which stands for flaming idiots flaming everywhere [other f words are available] :eek:

If people drive in accordance with the speed limit, there should be no risk, so your example of the lorry driver about to cut you up shouldn't occur, because he or she would be driving without due care and attention

And I have been cut up by bikers tear-arsing through 30mph and then forcing their way into a nn-existent gap more times than I can recall. And when one ends up in the mortuary because he was riding like an onanist until his/her luck ran out, I feel nothing. And I am ex-biker who rode within the limits because I quite like the way my creator arranged my legs, arms and head, and it's not fair on the surgeons to present them with a jigsaw puzzle without a picture and expect them to get it perfectly right ...

Steve
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Yes some nutters here to on bikes, esp in Belfast town, very dangerus place at the best of times, city centres should be 20mph all through, the worst offenders here to be truthfull are the cycle riders who think traffic lights crossings and one way streets dont apply to them, gets my monkey up.
 
trevskoda said:
Yes some nutters here to on bikes, esp in Belfast town, very dangerus place at the best of times, city centres should be 20mph all through, the worst offenders here to be truthfull are the cycle riders who think traffic lights crossings and one way streets dont apply to them, gets my monkey up.
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As do the cyclists who cycle at speed on the footpath, covered in mud from trail riding, ignoring pedestrian priority, because 'it's not safe to ride on the road' [where the surface must be covered in boulders, sandy gulleys, protruding plants and small trees, and streams ....]. :rolleyes:

Steve
 
Boris7 said:
That’s what pisses me off Rob, 4mph over a 60mph limit and not offered a course.
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That’s very poor. They normally allow 10% + 2mph, just to avoid unnecessary prosecution of those that make simple and innocent mistakes and are no real danger. To be done for 64 in a 60 is really unlucky and doesn’t really contribute to road safety.
 
alcam said:
Very common in Spain. Difficult to keep within the limits .
I see some of the speed restrictions in Wales have been reviewed. But also the numbers of people killed or injured has dropped quite considerably
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It’s very difficult to get true and accurate data to be honest, and it’s not been on long enough to determine if it’s made a significant impact. The drop in KSI following the introduction is as likely the result of driver awareness due to the recent change, rather than the effectiveness of 20 as a figure.

Most statisticians I know roll their eyes and shakes their heads disparagingly at some of the interpretations of the data, mainly by politicians and media.
 
Rolyan57 said:
It’s very difficult to get true and accurate data to be honest, and it’s not been on long enough to determine if it’s made a significant impact. The drop in KSI following the introduction is as likely the result of driver awareness due to the recent change, rather than the effectiveness of 20 as a figure.

Most statisticians I know roll their eyes and shakes their heads disparagingly at some of the interpretations of the data, mainly by politicians and media.
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To be fair the politician(s) involved in the 20mph programme were very upfront that it was early days . They advised that 3 years would give a more accurate picture .
Obviously the present figures are extremely encouraging wouldn't you say ?
 
Rolyan57 said:
That’s very poor. They normally allow 10% + 2mph, just to avoid unnecessary prosecution of those that make simple and innocent mistakes and are no real danger. To be done for 64 in a 60 is really unlucky and doesn’t really contribute to road safety.
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1 mph here and its a course, after nine over limit its automatic 3 p points, higher than that its court and removal or licence.
 
trevskoda said:
1 mph here and its a course, after nine over limit its automatic 3 p points, higher than that its court and removal or licence.
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That must be local to you Trev as NI have very similar guidelines to the rest of the UK;

For the speed awareness course, the speed of the offence must fall within the criteria stated below:

  • 30 mph up to and including 42 mph
  • 40 mph up to and including 53 mph
  • 50 mph up to and including 64 mph
  • 60 mph up to and including 75 mph
  • 70 mph up to and including 86 mph
 
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