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[spigot]

I know there is a definate benefit in running a silencer on the inlet hose, but I have not heard of anyone doubling up the silencers? be interested how much difference that makes and their placements. (I have spare silencers so could add some on )

The main benefit of adding another silencer is to reduce the noise to others.

In Morocco earlier this year I was accused of operating a rocket launcher at a wild camping venue when it was a bit parky one morning.

 

[Fisherman]

Ok, everyone ... after a good drive home the leisure battery was at 12.9 and the heater kicked in straight away. Should I still replace battery or is that a good sign? Apologies for my ignorance. I'm so grateful for all your replies and suggestions

Carol batteries are strange things, but it sounds like your battery should be ok for now, but you may have shortened its life by using more than 50% of full charge.

 

[wildebus]

The main benefit of adding another silencer is to reduce the noise to others.

In Morocco earlier this year I was accused of operating a rocket launcher at a wild camping venue when it was a bit parky one morning.

I would have a bit of a concern about total exhaust length. Eberspacher quote no more than 2 Metres. The restrictions on a silencer would add the equivalent of a fair amount of pipework I would imagine. A second silencer could push the effective length over the 2 Metres?

 

[Nabsim]

The second controller to me sounds like the 801 Model. Probably the most straightforward and best Eberspacher controller (IMO).
Does it look like the right hand controller on this page? Controllers 1

Yes that’s the one Dave

 

[Dowel]

Ok, everyone ... after a good drive home the leisure battery was at 12.9 and the heater kicked in straight away. Should I still replace battery or is that a good sign? Apologies for my ignorance. I'm so grateful for all your replies and suggestions

That sounds good to me, the battery may be OK. Worth having some tests done to see if any parts are not working quite as well as they should be. I am sure some of the folks here would be willing and able to check these out for you.

I admit to being a bit cynical and suspect some garages automatically tell less technically knowledgeable customers that parts need replacing. My daughter had many more brake shoes pads etc changed than one might ever expect necessary.

Last winter my sister in law's car wouldn't start in a cold spell and she assumed the battery should be replaced. We put it on charge for a good period and it is still serving her well. Batteries not in use do suffer from self discharge and if not attended to can lose capacity.

 

[Channa]

Still worth getting your battery checked under a load

On my Fiat same as yours essentially but some badge engineering, the battery in its twighlight years would show full charged on the meter inside the van but simple putting on lights it would discharge in as little as a couple of hours possibly less

channa

 

[wildebus]

Still worth getting your battery checked under a load

On my Fiat same as yours essentially but some badge engineering, the battery in its twighlight years would show full charged on the meter inside the van but simple putting on lights it would discharge in as little as a couple of hours possibly less

channa

Kind of reminds me of my starter battery before I replaced it .... Charged up fine. But come the cold weather, soon as I turned the key to start the engine, instant volt drop to 10.5V or something.
Replaced with a AGM battery exactly the same model as the leisure batteries

 

[spigot]

I would have a bit of a concern about total exhaust length. Eberspacher quote no more than 2 Metres. The restrictions on a silencer would add the equivalent of a fair amount of pipework I would imagine. A second silencer could push the effective length over the 2 Metres?

Surely, you could have 2 silencers next to each other, this would decrease the exterior noise but not increase the length of pipework.

 

[Floridaphill]

Ok, everyone ... after a good drive home the leisure battery was at 12.9 and the heater kicked in straight away. Should I still replace battery or is that a good sign? Apologies for my ignorance. I'm so grateful for all your replies and suggestions

I would check the battery.
we have a 100ah battery and solar, 60w, the battery was 4 years old but gets about 1-2 day every week wilding.
During the summer the solar was able mostly to keep up with fridge demands, but the battery was found wanting once we went on holiday and had 2 poor weather days and no driving, the fridge stopped working, this draws 2 amps.

Voltage looked fine but when tested it lacked capacity, it was intact about 50ah.
To test, I covered the solar panel and ran the fridge, noting the voltage on the cetec voltage monitor.
The battery was fine until about 50% charge then as soon as the fridge turned on the voltage plummeted from 12.5 to around 11.5 in less an a minute.

New battery, all fine now.

Hope this helps.
Phill

 

[Fisherman]

Kind of reminds me of my starter battery before I replaced it .... Charged up fine. But come the cold weather, soon as I turned the key to start the engine, instant volt drop to 10.5V or something.
Replaced with a AGM battery exactly the same model as the leisure batteries

I see the same with standbye batteries in alarm systems.
If you simply check the voltage of the battery disconnected from the system it may read over 13volts
Reconnect the battery then remove the mains (load test) and I have seen batteries drop to as little as 6-7 volts in

 

[wildebus]

Surely, you could have 2 silencers next to each other, this would decrease the exterior noise but not increase the length of pipework.

I understand the length of pipework is set at a maximum for avoid a back pressure (or whatever the term may be) over a certain level. A small silencer would be worth a fair amount of pipework equivalent length, so I would think another silencer WOULD increase the length of pipework - and more than just the length of the silencer.

The above is based on my own logic and may be totally wrong, but considering some people REMOVE silencers to allow exhaust gasses to flow better, the reverse will be true?

 

[Deleted member 5816]

Quite so but having used the same two intake air and the extra exhaust one over the last 10 Auto Sleepers I would say the proof is in the pudding.
But the world is full of Flat Earth believers its every one to there own. I wish I had not broke my resolve not to post anymore.
This is why I don't post any more there are enough experts here

Alf

I understand the length of pipework is set at a maximum for avoid a back pressure (or whatever the term may be) over a certain level. A small silencer would be worth a fair amount of pipework equivalent length, so I would think another silencer WOULD increase the length of pipework - and more than just the length of the silencer.

The above is based on my own logic and may be totally wrong, but considering some people REMOVE silencers to allow exhaust gasses to flow better, the reverse will be true?

 

[RichardHelen262]

I know there is a definate benefit in running a silencer on the inlet hose, but I have not heard of anyone doubling up the silencers? be interested how much difference that makes and their placements. (I have spare silencers so could add some on )

Ref temp sensors, most of the controllers had no capability of that, but the 801 model did - and worked very well IF the wiring was correctly modified to use it (many/most installers didn't seem to bother)

Our last T5 Autosleeper had two exhaust silencers fitted from new by Autosleeper

 

[wildebus]

Quite so but having used the same two intake air and the extra exhaust one over the last 10 Auto Sleepers I would say the proof is in the pudding.
But the world is full of Flat Earth believers its every one to there own. I wish I had not broke my resolve not to post anymore.
This is why I don't post any more there are enough experts here

Alf

Did I say you were wrong? This is why I asked you more info about your own exhaust setup - position of silencers, etc. so if I were to add another I would have a reference to work to.

Need a step for the high horse?

 

[Fazerloz]

Did I say you were wrong? This is why I asked you more info about your own exhaust setup - position of silencers, etc. so if I were to add another I would have a reference to work to.

Need a step for the high horse?

I suppose Alf could borrow yours.

anyone saying use petrol also mention the fact that it will need rinsing off VERY well and also remove all wax?

No, didn't think so. If a solution () is proposed, those people pushing it should give the facts and not assume the person asking the question will know they must do that (if they did, the chances are they would know the options already).

So well done for providing the missing info.

 

[wildebus]

I suppose Alf could borrow yours.

anyone saying use petrol also mention the fact that it will need rinsing off VERY well and also remove all wax?

No, didn't think so. If a solution () is proposed, those people pushing it should give the facts and not assume the person asking the question will know they must do that (if they did, the chances are they would know the options already).

So well done for providing the missing info.

Quite so. Snippets of advice which, when followed without the followup care required, can damage the paintwork the person is attempting to improve is not that great advice is it?

 

[wildebus]

I thought I would do a more involved real-life power and fuel consumption test on my Diesel Heater to see just how much is used when running.
Anyone interested can saddle up and mosey along to motorhomebuilder.com and have a look here :baby:

 

[n brown]

as this seems to have become about heating in general ,then for any self builders or those who want a change , if you can find the room for one of these Caravan Carver TRUMATIC 1800 heater complete and tested working | eBay . i had one similar , a morco , in a van as well as a webasto 5kw . they have no electrics, no moving parts ,so no noise, and are floor vented.very cheap to buy and slightly quicker to warm the van than the webby.absolutely gutted i couldn't put it in my latest van , so have a propex

 

[Fazerloz]

Quite so. Snippets of advice which, when followed without the followup care required, can damage the paintwork the person is attempting to improve is not that great advice is it?

anyone saying use petrol also mention the fact that it will need rinsing off VERY well and also remove all wax?

No, didn't think so. If a solution () is proposed, those people pushing it should give the facts and not assume the person asking the question will know they must do that (if they did, the chances are they would know the options already).

So well done for providing the missing info.

Even though when you were on your high horse you were wrong. There was a post saying to wash it.

 

[Nabsim]

as this seems to have become about heating in general ,then for any self builders or those who want a change , if you can find the room for one of these Caravan Carver TRUMATIC 1800 heater complete and tested working | eBay . i had one similar , a morco , in a van as well as a webasto 5kw . they have no electrics, no moving parts ,so no noise, and are floor vented.very cheap to buy and slightly quicker to warm the van than the webby.absolutely gutted i couldn't put it in my latest van , so have a propex

That looks a newer model than we used to have in one of our caravans but they were brilliant and soon had van warm Nige